Brick,
I must’ve missed something, what do you need help with?
Wait, nevermind, I got the 2nd page reference now…not to worry, there will always be crappy threads filling up the boards, but the great threads usually rise to the top.
Ha Ha. Yeah, we’ll be fine. We’ve been around for ever!
-CA
I started the diet again today. I was pretty satisfied with the results the first time, and I’m looking forward to modifying it to make it a regular way of eating, as IC and DH do.
My big sticking point was breakfast, since I don’t care for eggs. Starting your day off with food you don’t like is a sure-fire way to shorten the time you dedicate to the diet.
One possible solution is to eat a low-carb bar along with a protein shake. That’s what I did this morning (Pure Protein brand), along with 1 tbsp of PB, protein shake and 1/2 and 1/2 in my espresso.
I know low carb bars are not the best choice- are they forbidden on the diet? WIll they interfere with results?
Those of you who’ve done/are doing the diet using lo-carb bars, what were your results? Helped or hindered?
Please let me know ASAP.
I’m going to workout more consistently, so I’m expecting better results.
I’m also using more affirmations, visualizations, and have made changes to my mindset.
[quote]Sonny S wrote:
I started the diet again today. I was pretty satisfied with the results the first time, and I’m looking forward to modifying it to make it a regular way of eating, as IC and DH do.
My big sticking point was breakfast, since I don’t care for eggs. Starting your day off with food you don’t like is a sure-fire way to shorten the time you dedicate to the diet.
One possible solution is to eat a low-carb bar along with a protein shake. That’s what I did this morning (Pure Protein brand), along with 1 tbsp of PB, protein shake and 1/2 and 1/2 in my espresso.
I know low carb bars are not the best choice- are they forbidden on the diet? WIll they interfere with results?
Those of you who’ve done/are doing the diet using lo-carb bars, what were your results? Helped or hindered?
Please let me know ASAP.
I’m going to workout more consistently, so I’m expecting better results.
I’m also using more affirmations, visualizations, and have made changes to my mindset.
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Not to sound too panicky, and I’m sure its better than not eating, but most if not all of those things have a bunch of sugar alcohols to replace the sugar. Things like malitol, zylitol, sorbitol, etc. (anything with -tol in the name) should probably not be consumed by anyone, let alone those on the AD.
The reason they are not counted as CHO on food labels is not because they have no CHO in them, but because the FDA does not yet require them to be labelled, as they are so new. I know a bunch of people who’ve experienced gastric upset, headache, and fatigue when using those things. Not to mention the effect they may have on your insulin levels, which may as dramatic as sugar, nobody knows.
Sorry for the diatribe, but I think this needs to be said for all considering this diet. Some breakfast ideas:
Try an omelet with asstd cheeses, bacon, ham, sausage, and vegetables. Eggs rule on this diet, but they can be easily masked with hot sauce, salsa, LC ketchup, etc. They are the cheapest source of good protein and fat I know of. Figure out a way to eat 'em.
Try a breakfast burrito: Take a LC tortilla wrap and put eggs, sausage, some salsa, and some cheese up in it.
I occasionally find myself just making 2 dinners and eating the second one cold for breakfast. Nothing starts the day like a few cups of coffee and a steak!
I guess the moral of the story is, find ways that you can live within the diet, don’t try to “outsmart” it. Your bod will not be happy with you.
Damn! How’s that for a bump, huh?
-CA
I used to hate eggs with a passion, but after gagging them down for a bit Ive grown to like them a lot. If I didnt start my day with a big meat and cheese omellete I wouldnt know what to do. Use the advice to cover them up with salsa or cheese, they are the perfect food for this diet as far as I can tell.
I know about the -tols and how they are sugar alcohols but thanks for the tip about the FDA not labeling them as CHO yet.
Still would be curious to know if some other vets use them or not.
Thanks for the tips on masking eggs.
Any other breakfast suggestions?
I thought of protein shake with nuts or 2 tbsp peanut butter
Dr Praeger’s Spinach pancakes or Broccoli nuggets (4g net carbs) with eggs
Eggs with smoked salmon
ALso, what can I use in place of bread crumbs when making baked chicken and such?
Soy crumbs, whole wheat flour…? Thoughts?
I’ve got a couple of questions for DH or anyone else familiar with the mid week carb up. It has been suggested that the carb up take place as the last meal on Wed., is this assuming that one starts the 36 hour carb-up on sat. morning? I have experimented with both starting fri, as well as the more traditional sat. morning start and believe I like the Sat morning-Sun early evening the best.
However, if for some reason during a given week, due to a social or family event or something, I know I’m going to start loading on fri. night, would I move up the midweek spike to Wed. morning or afternoon?
So, AD’ers, I was looking for a new source of fiber, something a little more concentrated then milled flax. I found corn bran, which the USDA database gives per cup as:
170 Cals
7 grams of protein
60 grams of fiber
65 grams of carbs
1 gram of fat
That leaves around a hundred unaccounted for calories.
What’s the deal, I don’t want to add more hidden carbs to get some roughage.
Here’s some links:
http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item/20015.html
And it’s in the actual usda database if you type in corn bran:
What’s up guys.
I have been reading this thread for a while now and decided to try the diet. I bought the Metabolic Diet book and I am half way through it now. I started the diet this past Sunday and I am doing the 12 day assessment phase. I was doing fine until about an hour ago. I went to lunch with my girlfriend and I ordered 12 regular wings with ranch and bleu cheese dressing with a diet pepsi to drink. When the waitress brought out the wings I noticed they were breaded!!! I ate them all. What does this do for my assessment phase? Does it screw it up? Do I have to start over or can I just continue the assessment phase as normal and carb up after my 12th day? I am about 270 with about 25% body fat. I lift weights 4x a week working each body part 2x per week using all compound exercises (CW style). My goal is to lose as much body fat as quickly as possible without losing strength and muscle mass. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks guys and good luck with your goals.
haha…once i ordered a bunch of wings and got so pissed off when they came out breaded…i literally yelled “THESE WINGS ARE BREADED” i get made fun for it to this day.
Get some psyllium. It is generally labeled as colon cleanse. Or, if you are old enough, Super Colon Blow!
-folly
[quote]conorh wrote:
So, AD’ers, I was looking for a new source of fiber, something a little more concentrated then milled flax. I found corn bran, which the USDA database gives per cup as:
170 Cals
7 grams of protein
60 grams of fiber
65 grams of carbs
1 gram of fat
That leaves around a hundred unaccounted for calories.
What’s the deal, I don’t want to add more hidden carbs to get some roughage.
Here’s some links:
http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item/20015.html
And it’s in the actual usda database if you type in corn bran:
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
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Breaded wings…huh…who’d a guessed?
;0
DH
[quote]Kliplemet wrote:
Dipasquale mentions you will feel very relaxed, even sleepy after a carb up, because of the insulin and serotin, yet he advises to carb up after the weigh in, wouldn’t your lifting skills suffer from this relaxation effect?[/quote]
This is why I don’t start carb loading until after my training session on Saturday morning. Start it off with some Surge, then run the carb load through Sunday night.
I’ve been thinking of trying something.
At the beginning of the AD I ate around 200 g fat and 200 g protein.Obviously,this was too much protein for my 83 kg,15+% bodyfat body.I downed the protein to 190,then 160-170.Works great.I slowly upped fat from 200 to 220,then 250 and later 300.At 300 I gained a bit too much fat around the waist.Downed it back to around 250,and at that I’m slowly gaining.I keep the load clean,with loads of potatoes,oats,a few bananas and sweet potatoes.
I’m going to down the fat to 200 now.Had an idea that being a fat burner and having a surplus of fat(food) on my body,I could get away with a lower fat intake,lose fat and still gain a bit of muscle and strength due to the supply of energy from the fat stores in my body.
Could work/stupid?
if you lower fat, but are still in a surplus of calories, you’ll gain weight. If you lower fat, and are in a deficit of calories, your body will go looking for fat, hopefully from bodyfat, as high protein (relativly speaking) + training retains muscle.
You can possibly recomp (lower bf + gain weight) with the AD, but it would be a painfully slow process.
Anyways, tommorow I’m gonna try 10g dex pwo to see what happens, hopefully things will be positive.
Things that will be consumed tomorrow:
M1: Beef + Salad w/ EVOO
M2: Whey + Dex >>> Beef + EFA 1hr later
M3: Beef + Salad w/ EVOO
M4: Tuna + EVOO
M5: Eggs + Almonds
M6: Casein/Heavy Cream Shake
Holy shit that lazy SOB mdragon is posting. Hey guys I’m working in Iraq thus the problem with me posting. Because of this place and being a whimp I started eating like crap, just started eating the AD again this week. I tried three times before but always ended up eating an MRE several times that week for whatever reason non that could be controlled. Hopefully I will be at the chow hall on a regular basis now and can continue with the AD. No I’m not military just one of those lousy contractors.
Good to see you back Dragon. I think that one of the good things about the AD is that it’s pretty forgiving when you go overboard. You are in a tough situation, but do the best you can, things don’t always have to be perfect.
Anyone have any good protein/fat combos they really like that they’d be willing to share? The best thing throughout the day, for me, is natural peanut butter over chicken breasts. The guys that work with me think it smells like crap, but cold chicken doesn’t really taste that great by itself.