My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
1522

So I’m on day 7 and I’m pretty sure I crashed this afternoon after work. I got home and sat down and felt like a pile of crap. I had no energy whatsoever. I took a nap and now I feel fine. I sit all day at work and today wasn’t a workout day so this is the only explination I have…

Besides that everythings great, my energys great, I dont really have any food cravings at all (although I am really looking forward to my carb extravaganza this weekend).

I do have one question though;
I should be getting about 2160 calories through carbs each day this weekend if my math is correct, but I’m not sure how many grams that is. I’m sure this is pretty elementary for you guys who have been bodybuilding the right way for a long time but its all pretty new to me…

So, If anyone wouldnt mind double checking my math I’d really appreciate it…
Im getting 3600 calories at 200lbs. so 60% of that is 2160calories of carbs if my math is correct. I will try to get the minimum amout of protein suggested in the book so that should be 360 calories of protein and that leaves me with 30% fat at 1080 calories… how do I do the breakdowns to find out how many grams this is??

1523

I see you went the lazy way and used fitday to do your math, its ok I forgive you, each gram of carbs and protein each have four calories, fat has nine. So if you need 2160 calories from carbs you simply divide that by 4 leaving you with 540 yummy carbs to demolish. Good luck and watch out for the sugar coma you might encounter the first time.

1524

Alright WHO TOOK MY Metabolic Diet book?

I let one of my clients borrow it and now I forgot who it was. DAMMIT, I lost it once, found it (along with the Anabolic Diet book and video) and now it’s GONE AGAIN! AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!

1525

im busy with school at the moment so i cant read all this thread. ive read bits and must say i am very impressed with you all. i read up on the anabolic diet quite some time ago and didnt quite retain all the info. the only part i remember is about 60-70% of you diet is fat. could someone post a general blueprint of the diet such as percents and carb days and if there is anything else i need to know. i might mess around with this diet just a bit as you all have made me very intrigued.

1526

[quote]scottiscool wrote:
I see you went the lazy way and used fitday to do your math, its ok I forgive you, each gram of carbs and protein each have four calories, fat has nine. So if you need 2160 calories from carbs you simply divide that by 4 leaving you with 540 yummy carbs to demolish. Good luck and watch out for the sugar coma you might encounter the first time.[/quote]

I know, I know. Fitday is really the easier way though and it lets me keep track of everything as well. Now it stuck to me that the carbs and protein have 4 calories and fat has 9. I wrote it down ten times so I’ll never forget it know (I even learned a foreign language this way).

I usually work saturday but have this week off and I’m excited about this carb up. I know myself and I’m sure I’ll over do it like most everything but I have the day off…
I wish there were a search function that would let you search within the seperate posts…
Thanks again for your help its very encouraging.

1527

I was just looking at the list of high carbohydrate foods (heavy weekend use) and giggling like a little schoolgirl.

1528

Anybody got experience with PWO-shakes on the AD?

So far I’ve used olive oil,but I was thinking of getting some sat fat from cream.

Edit:Goin’ for the olive oil/cream combo.

1529

Only one more day until the big carb up. Im excited to see how my body responds to it. I have a question for some of you veterans of this eating program- is it really nessecary to wait for energy levels to be good again before going from the matinence phase as reccomended in the book. I only weigh about 200 pounds but I am starving here 3600 calories arent keeping me full. Will this change once the carb ups start? Are there any foods you can recommend that keep you fuller than others? I’m eating spinach, lots of beef in the form of steaks and 80% hamburger, eggs and bacon, chicken, olive oil, cheddar cheese when my left over carbs allow for it and I am still really hungry.

1530

Some pointers mastodon:

  1. On the load, count your macro’s and cals. That way you’ll know how much you can handle and vary according to your goals etc.

  2. Eat clean carbs if possible on the load, it ain’t an excuse to bust out the ben and jerry’s.

  3. Eat broccoli to keep you full. I eat about 6 cups a day and stay under 30g each day.

1531

[quote]brickt. wrote:
Some pointers mastodon:

  1. On the load, count your macro’s and cals. That way you’ll know how much you can handle and vary according to your goals etc.

  2. Eat clean carbs if possible on the load, it ain’t an excuse to bust out the ben and jerry’s.

  3. Eat broccoli to keep you full. I eat about 6 cups a day and stay under 30g each day.

[/quote]

I am planning on eating relatively clean carbs like oats, potatoes, and wholegrain noodles, and I’ve also been craving milk for the last two weeks. I will have a beer or two as there’s a christmas party at the gym tomorrow evening. I’ll let you guys know how it went on Sunday evening. Thanks once again for your help.

1532

Drink milk, it’s okay. I usually have 2/3 cups of 2% on the load.

Beer - well, up to you. I don’t drink so I have no say, but during the load would be the best time to do it.

1533

I don’t use creatine, but a friend of mine superdoses (i think) it during the load.

1534

Taking creatine with high gi carbs such as maltodextrin or dextrose has been said (i’m not 100% positive if studies have been done, or how well the studies were conducted for that matter)to help with creatine absorbtion. However, this is by far not the only way creatine “works”, and the difference in absorbtion should be minimal, if any. I would highly recommend it on this diet or any other diet for that matter.

1535

[quote]brickt. wrote:
Drink milk, it’s okay. I usually have 2/3 cups of 2% on the load.

Beer - well, up to you. I don’t drink so I have no say, but during the load would be the best time to do it.[/quote]

I’m not usually a big drinker either except for special occasions. Had it not happened to be a load day, it wouldn’t have bothered me at all to not have a beer ,but since it happens to be a day when it’s o.k. to have carbs, I don’t think that one or two bottles of beer are gonna make me shrink or anything.

Do you usually train on one of the load days?

1536

I don’t think a couple of beers will make you shrink. There was a thread here a while back that you can find by searching “alcohol” that puts a pretty interesting take on it. The topic of alcoholic beverages is usually met with an extreme amount of force here and at other bodybuilding sites. The poster of this thread (European, I believe) pretty much said that the odd drink or two here and there is not that counter-productive, it is the American the activity of “drinking” that will cause you trouble. In other words, having two beers is not the same as having a twelve pack. Also, having six beers spread out over a week, say, having three on two separate nights, is not equivalent to having a 6 pack.

Something, I wish that would be addressed more closely is the beer “recommendation” that actually is associated with this diet. I’m guessing it is just a selling point of the book and the diet itself, but I recall reading various times that this is the “pizza and beer on the weekend diet.” As a matter of fact the T-Nation article concerning the diet also listed beer weekends as one of the advantages. What I would like to know, is the weekend beer/alcohol any less detrimental on the AD than it would be than say if you were on a Massive Eating type diet and having drinks on the weekends?

Also, say on this diet one is to go out and drink a couple of beers on a thursday night, not carb loading. Would that be any more harmful than say having 4 on a sat. night? Does the two beers on a weekday mess up fat burning (I assume that is where the main issue lies), enough to make it that much more detrimental than drinking on weekends? Even while carb loading you are still burning fat, correct? So therefore wouldn’t the weekend beer effect fat burning just like the weeday beer.

This scenario is also assuming that the beer does not cause one to exceed their daily carb limit. I apologize for hijacking the “gym party beer” question, it is just the obssesive compulsive and the 21 year old trying to manage the AD/college/and social life in coming out. I look forward to the usual informative responses.

1537

I think the beer is just a selling point that the doc used to advertise the diet. Beer = carbs + alcohol. On the load, the carbs would be used to refill glycogen (albeit shit carbs) but the alcohol will fuck with your body. However, a few drinks on the weekend won’t destroy your physique, current or potential.

1538

My 24~hr load is as follows:

Cals: 5216
Carb: 722 (55%)~
Pro : 228 (17%)~
Fat : 142 (24%)~

1539

[quote]speedy5323 wrote:
I don’t think a couple of beers will make you shrink. There was a thread here a while back that you can find by searching “alcohol” that puts a pretty interesting take on it.

The topic of alcoholic beverages is usually met with an extreme amount of force here and at other bodybuilding sites. The poster of this thread (European, I believe) pretty much said that the odd drink or two here and there is not that counter-productive, it is the American the activity of “drinking” that will cause you trouble.

In other words, having two beers is not the same as having a twelve pack. Also, having six beers spread out over a week, say, having three on two separate nights, is not equivalent to having a 6 pack.

Something, I wish that would be addressed more closely is the beer “recommendation” that actually is associated with this diet. I’m guessing it is just a selling point of the book and the diet itself, but I recall reading various times that this is the “pizza and beer on the weekend diet.”

As a matter of fact the T-Nation article concerning the diet also listed beer weekends as one of the advantages. What I would like to know, is the weekend beer/alcohol any less detrimental on the AD than it would be than say if you were on a Massive Eating type diet and having drinks on the weekends?

Also, say on this diet one is to go out and drink a couple of beers on a thursday night, not carb loading. Would that be any more harmful than say having 4 on a sat. night? Does the two beers on a weekday mess up fat burning (I assume that is where the main issue lies), enough to make it that much more detrimental than drinking on weekends?

Even while carb loading you are still burning fat, correct? So therefore wouldn’t the weekend beer effect fat burning just like the weeday beer.

This scenario is also assuming that the beer does not cause one to exceed their daily carb limit. I apologize for hijacking the “gym party beer” question, it is just the obssesive compulsive and the 21 year old trying to manage the AD/college/and social life in coming out. I look forward to the usual informative responses. [/quote]

There’s an article Dr. D wrote on the subject that I found interesting. You can find it on bodybuilding.com. Might be important to know for over the holidays.

H-A

1540

2nd Page? Not while I’m around.

C’mon, DH, IC, CA, I need you guys!

1541

Hey guys,how is it going? Does GNC sell Biotest products? Thanks.