[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
Is there anything particularly wrong with drinking olive oil alone to make extra calories and fats?[/quote]
HELLLLLL NO!!!
Ha Ha Ha. Seriously, I do it all of the time, though usually with either a “chaser” of Power Drive PW or something mixed in. But dude, if you are man enough to drink it straight go for it. I salute you!
-CA
Hey all. I’ve got a few minutes before class, so I figured I’d post my plans for the next few weeks. I’ve got one more week of classes, then finals, and I’m done for the semester. Since I have no job to go to over the holiday vacation, I’m-a-gonna train myself into the ground in preparation for lacrosse season. What I’m thinking about doing is keeping everything (cals, macros, workouts, etc.) the same until the break, and then shocking my body into gaining a few lbs of muscle with quattro dynamo over the first 3 weeks of the break. I’ll then take the last week completely off of training to allow for some supercompensation.
I really like the muscle mass gains I’m getting on the wednesday load, and I’m hoping for a little more when I get some malto/dextrose going PW. Basically, I’m going to keep weekday cals the same except for 30g CHO PW and 300g CHO last meal on wednesday. I’m going to take up total cals by ~1000-1500 on the weekends, (making it around 6500-7000kcals/day!). Let’s see my body not gain weight on that!
I apologize for sounding totally jacked, but I just had a helluva workout. See y’all later.
-CA
To all the above posts:
I take in about 75% fat, 22% protein, 3% carbs.
Yes, every carb counts, but minus fiber.
Aim for around 20-30 g carbs (once you’ve subtraced said fiber)
I don’t feel ‘strong’ on Mondays, but I don’t feel ‘weak’ on Fridays. Meh.
To CA, my hero. GO FOR IT.
Thanks Charles.
[quote]brickt. wrote:
To all the above posts:
I take in about 75% fat, 22% protein, 3% carbs.
Yes, every carb counts, but minus fiber.
Aim for around 20-30 g carbs (once you’ve subtraced said fiber)
I don’t feel ‘strong’ on Mondays, but I don’t feel ‘weak’ on Fridays. Meh.
To CA, my hero. GO FOR IT. [/quote]
Awwww. Thanks bud. gives hug, realizes it’s femmy, backs off and talks about hunting
Ha Ha
-CA
So, erm, how about them Red Sox? Eh?
Teehee.
I found a product I thought y’all should be aware of.
El Pato brand Tomato sause, mexican hot style.
A one ounce serving has one gram of carbs, 135 mgs of sodium and that’s about it. The ingredients are tomato puree, water, chiles, onions, garlic salt and spices. Pretty simple stuff.
A 7.75 oz (220g) can is about a buck and it tastes great on everything.
I found it with all the international cuisine at the not particularly high end grocery store, so I’m guessing you’ll find it where you are.
Have fun.
Here’s a scenario I’ve been thinking about. I train three days a week with weights. They are full body routines with varied rep ranges sticking to the compound exercises. I usually weight train Monday, Wednesday, and Saturday. My question is what would be the benefits or drawbacks of a short carb load (8-10 hours) after every training day. My weekly claories and macro breakdowns could be unaffected. I would still be carbing up only 24-30 hours for the week and this would allow me to ingest my carbs at a time when my body would put them to work in the best way. Any thoughts?
[quote]AceQHounddog wrote:
Here’s a scenario I’ve been thinking about. I train three days a week with weights. They are full body routines with varied rep ranges sticking to the compound exercises. I usually weight train Monday, Wednesday, and Saturday. My question is what would be the benefits or drawbacks of a short carb load (8-10 hours) after every training day. My weekly claories and macro breakdowns could be unaffected. I would still be carbing up only 24-30 hours for the week and this would allow me to ingest my carbs at a time when my body would put them to work in the best way. Any thoughts?[/quote]
I believe that would shift your metabolism to carb-burning.
Could people with a hiher bodyfat get aya with eating fewer kcals since their body is already stocked with ‘food’ in the form of fat?
I was thinking that a clean bulk on the AD would be slightly lower in fat for an already fat person,whereas the skinny bastard trying to gain would need more.
‘bulking’ is about consuming more cals than you burn. if you have adequate protein, the extra cals would be most beneficial (imho) coming from fat. if your gaining too much bodyfat, you would have to lower said cals, probably, once again, from fat, as protein is constant.
the AD works well because it partitions nutrients more efficiently towards muscle, not fat. eg ad bulk might be 90% muscle, 10% fat, whilst a high carb bulk might be 60/40 or whatever (purely hypothetical)
ps: the fatter you are, the more your body partitions nutrients towards fat, and the leaner, the more your body partitions towards muscle. john berardi did a study on this.
Reading the fasted “cardio” roundtable gave me some questions about its relevance to those, like me that are on the AD diet.
I was wondering whether high intesity cardio, which is supposed to rely on the glycogen stores, acts upon our bodies differently? If so, well, then how so?
Would morning cardio be a good option when using the AD as cutting and if you are in need of a bit more to lose that fat? Are the differences enough to allow high intesity cardio without muscle break down that CT and others were worried about.
Thanks to all.
no need to do fasted cardio on the ad, bro!
the facts: people do fasted cardio because the muscles are empty of glyocogen (supposedly, you actually burn mostly fat whilst you sleep) so that your body has to feed off fat for energy, assuming the intensity is relatively low (high intensity fasted - your body will use protein for energy no matter what diet your on (fat metabolism is too slow to provide the energy))
but hey, on the ad, your burning fat all the time (blanket statement, i know) when your sitting on the toilet, talking on the phone, walking the doggies, fat is being burned. so do your cardio whenever you want, if it’s lowish intensity, your gonna be burning fatty fat fat.
Just to update my progress so far. I’ve been on the AD since October and recently bought the ebook for the Metabolic Diet to help refine things a bit more. In 2 months I’ve dropped 14 pounds of fat and have added on 4 pounds of lean mass.
Since buying the ebook the fat loss rate has picked up and I really can’t wait to see the long term effects.
So far so great.
Thanks to everyone who posts up some incredible advice on here.
Just finished my load. This is what I put down over 36~ hours.
Cals: 7516
Carb: 1087 (58%)
Prot: 290 (15%)
Fat : 195 (23%)
Hmm, so my macros don’t all up to 100%. I don’t care. Basically a shitload of oats, sweet potatahz, bread, milk, efas.
Felt like I ate a shitload today and it turns out it was close to 3500 kcal.
I’ve reduced the amount of carbs on the second day of the load,from around 600 to 500.
Anyone have experience with how having less carbs on the second day caffects gain/loss?I would think it would lead to less fat gain.
I was writing down a list of things I did wrong last time I attempted the diet and I got to supplementation. Turns out the creatine I was taking daily had 32g of sugar in it, and now a lot of things make sense. I wasnt getting anything out of my carb ups because I was consuming double the amount allowed everyday. Lesson learned, check EVERYTHING
Ok, notes from the first week.
I am on day 8. At first, I was having trouble keeping the fat up as high as I needed, and the carbs low. I have discovered that I can add some oil to fix the fat. I am doing about 3300 cal/day. But I had to cut my portion size on the vegs to stay under the 30gm a day limit for now.
I miss Surge, but I may have to have some this weekend.
It hasn’t been that difficult to lose the starchy carbs, but I do miss my morning oats. Grow!, oats and milk are a staple for me. I also miss beans (the musical fruit). I will have to have some this weekend, along with some yams and banana bread, but not together.
I’m gonna have my oats and Grow!, and then it’s off to, probably, Cattlemen’s down in Stockyards City with my dad for a damn good breakfast buffet. They have some of the best biscuits, fruit, fresh eggs, bacon and hashbrowns. Then a nap.
I am pretty sure that I crashed yesterday afternoon. I walked the dog, made my eggs, grocery shopped, then just fell over tired. I got about a two hour nap, then I was fine. Got my cooking done, put together my meals and had dinner with the family. Up at 4:30 this morning and took the dog for a walk. Nothing special. This morning: clean energy. I only had coffee because I like it.
My workouts have been very consistent. I was a little lightheaded on Monday (day 1), but then again, it was squat day. Tuesday I taught myself the snatch, and felt pretty good about the whole thing. Deadlifts on Friday went well. I didn’t run out of energy like I thought I might.
Weekend diet is generally spotty. I taught two merit badge classes on Saturday for scouts. The boys thought my shakes were funny, and no one understood why I didn’t want pizza for lunch. I had a burger with bacon, mushrooms and cheese, and some broccoli. Mmmmmm.
I am being very basic with my diet for the time being. I have steak and burgers, occasionally chicken on a spinach salad. Broccoli and green beans. 2 Grow, psyllium, flax, Udo’s oil, coconut oil and Hood milk in the morning, lots of eggs and bacon for breakfast. Oh yeah. Olive oil. I am looking forward to expanding my choices after this weekend.
All in all, I think it is going well. I’m not really having any cravings, and my wife is watching to see how I do with it. I am about 4lbs down from last week, but my waist measurements are the same. Not that big of a deal. I may work on losing fat later.
I’m sure that I will get enough carbs this weekend, and I don’t plan on eating out too much. Just breakfast.
-folly
[quote]folly wrote:
Ok, notes from the first week.
I am on day 8. At first, I was having trouble keeping the fat up as high as I needed, and the carbs low. I have discovered that I can add some oil to fix the fat. I am doing about 3300 cal/day. But I had to cut my portion size on the vegs to stay under the 30gm a day limit for now.
I miss Surge, but I may have to have some this weekend.
It hasn’t been that difficult to lose the starchy carbs, but I do miss my morning oats. Grow!, oats and milk are a staple for me. I also miss beans (the musical fruit). I will have to have some this weekend, along with some yams and banana bread, but not together.
I’m gonna have my oats and Grow!, and then it’s off to, probably, Cattlemen’s down in Stockyards City with my dad for a damn good breakfast buffet. They have some of the best biscuits, fruit, fresh eggs, bacon and hashbrowns. Then a nap.
I am pretty sure that I crashed yesterday afternoon. I walked the dog, made my eggs, grocery shopped, then just fell over tired. I got about a two hour nap, then I was fine. Got my cooking done, put together my meals and had dinner with the family. Up at 4:30 this morning and took the dog for a walk. Nothing special. This morning: clean energy. I only had coffee because I like it.
My workouts have been very consistent. I was a little lightheaded on Monday (day 1), but then again, it was squat day. Tuesday I taught myself the snatch, and felt pretty good about the whole thing. Deadlifts on Friday went well. I didn’t run out of energy like I thought I might.
Weekend diet is generally spotty. I taught two merit badge classes on Saturday for scouts. The boys thought my shakes were funny, and no one understood why I didn’t want pizza for lunch. I had a burger with bacon, mushrooms and cheese, and some broccoli. Mmmmmm.
I am being very basic with my diet for the time being. I have steak and burgers, occasionally chicken on a spinach salad. Broccoli and green beans. 2 Grow, psyllium, flax, Udo’s oil, coconut oil and Hood milk in the morning, lots of eggs and bacon for breakfast. Oh yeah. Olive oil. I am looking forward to expanding my choices after this weekend.
All in all, I think it is going well. I’m not really having any cravings, and my wife is watching to see how I do with it. I am about 4lbs down from last week, but my waist measurements are the same. Not that big of a deal. I may work on losing fat later.
I’m sure that I will get enough carbs this weekend, and I don’t plan on eating out too much. Just breakfast.
-folly[/quote]
Remember that when adding up the carbs you shouldn’t count cauliflower,broccoli,spinach and other dark green/low calorie/high nutrient vegetables.
They are ‘free’, and don’t count towards the daily limit.
I do remember that, and I eat as much spinach as I can get my hands on. But there are actual carbs in veggies as well (I think DH mentioned this about page 4782 or so). I am just being careful. I won’t be too concerned after I finish the first two weeks.
Thanks!
-folly
[quote]Wolverin wrote:
Remember that when adding up the carbs you shouldn’t count cauliflower,broccoli,spinach and other dark green/low calorie/high nutrient vegetables.
They are ‘free’, and don’t count towards the daily limit.
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