The thing I love about this way of eating (seems to natural and painless to call it a diet) is that I’ve got wedding to attend on Saturday and Sunday, but I won’t really have to be too concerned about the menu. It’s really very convenient for social situations. The only thing that sucks is thqat I have to go to TWO weddings this weekend. I can feel my T levels dropping already.
26$ a pund for Prosciutto is way too high, that’s NYC Upper East Side prices. Ridiculous. Try doing a google search for online gourmet stores, maybe you can find a better deal, esp if you buy more than 1 item to negate shipping costs. Just a thought.
[quote]CU AeroStallion wrote:
Sonny S wrote:
One thing that I’ve been noticing lately- how f’n hard is to find Olive Oil from Italy? Almost every single one has oils mixed in from other countries, and who knows how long they’ve been sitting around before they get shipped to Italy, packed in Italy, and then shipped over here.
At the supermarket today, they easily had 20 varieties, only 3 were 100% Italian, and only the 16 oz bottle was under $10.
And none of them were DOC or DOCG, the highest indication of authenticity and quality.
No offense to Spain, Turkey, Greece etc but I’m Italian-American, I own a house in Italy, and I’m an Italian teacher.
So, I prefer to buy Italian.
Ah, I think only Il Cazzo understands me…
as another Italian boy, I get my Olly from a nice little family owned and operated Italian Deli a few miles from my house, all they have there is 100% Italian Olly. It’s good stuff, and you can even get it in giant cans if need be.
Also, they have hardened dry Pepperoni Sticks, which may be one of the greatest things known to man, that and spicy Cappicola and Prosciuto (imagine dropping 27 bones per pound for the good Prosciut… OUCH! but so good!).[/quote]
CUAero-
SInce I had a minute I did a search. You’re better off buying domestic or canadian prosciutto.
Go to igourmet.com, type in canadian prosciutto, and its about $9/lb.
For the prosciutto, it comes out to about $4/lb for shipping, so you’re paying about 13$/lb total - 50% less.
You can also buy decent salame and sopressata by Beretta for about $12/lb.
And, you can ask your local supermarket to stock it. You live in Boulder right? THere has to be more than 1 store selling prosciutto. Look around, see if there are some selling it for less and ask if they sell domestic as well.
I’m on Day 6 of the induction phase.
Haven’t posted or read the post the last 3 days because I can’t take everyone talking about what they’re going to eat on carb-up day.
Energy is fine, though i haven’t lifted in the last 5 days so it really shouldn’t be a problem.
The carb cravings come and go BUT I have to say, I feel very strong discipline wise because I know come the 13th day, I can eat more or less whatever i want for 36 hrs.
I don’t feel trapped like a regular diet where everything is verboten, I know there’s a light at the end of the tunnel!
It adds a lot of resolve for sure.
Some of my cravings:
decadent chocolate raspberry cake and chocolate cheesecake from my local pastry shop; oatmeal with raisins (which I rarely eat anymore!); ice cream; watermelon, blueberrries, peaches; the ability to eat a lot of vegetables.
Hven’t craved pasta or chocolate chip cookies yet - strange, since CC cookies are my achilles heel.
One thing I’ve learned:
high quality Italian deli meats and cheeses have really helped with cravings of all types.
its like they fix my cravings immediately.
I hate to ask such a simple question, but what’s the best way to get up to speed on this diet? I did a Search and didn’t find an article on it from the T-Nation staff.
Am I missing it? I’m sure I could wade through 1200 post and try to piece it together, but I’m hoping there’s an easier way. It sounds like people are very enthusiastic about it.
[quote]beachdoc wrote:
Sorry, I am new to T-Nation. What “diet” are you discussing? [/quote]
he…he…Ummm…what thread am I writing in? I can’t seem to remember…
Did a local 5 kmcompetition run today,day 8 of the induction phase.Hed some carbs in the form of 70% dark chockolate the day before,probably around 50 g.
CU Aero/Sonny S,
Wonder how much it would cost to ship some real deal to some of the flock here? I get a can from Meijer’s SuperCenter by Filippo Berio. Says select oil from Italy, Spain, Greece, and Tunisia. I really just try to focus on it being cold pressed, extra virgin in a light blocking tin. Bout the best I can do in the Heartland. For 101oz I paid $20. What can you get and for how much in other parts of the US?
DH
I get my Fish Oil for 6.88 at Sam’s Club. Member’s Mark brand. Per 1g cap it contains:
180 EPA
120 DHA
I take 10 caps per day (to get 3g of the good stuff) and it comes 300 per bottle. A month perfectly.
DH
in bodyopus,duchaine said that it wasn’t a diet meant for someone over 15% bodyfat.being that these diets are similar,do you feel his statement to be true?would Berardi’s don’t diet plan be better for someone who is really overweight or is this diet easy to stick with despite what dan said.
[quote]havoc501 wrote:
in bodyopus,duchaine said that it wasn’t a diet meant for someone over 15% bodyfat.being that these diets are similar,do you feel his statement to be true?would berardi’s don’t diet plan be better for someone who is really overweight or is this diet easy to stick with despite what dan said.[/quote]
Well, I’m not familiar with Berardis Don’t Diet plan but coming from a guy that is over 15% BF and has has been eating this way for almost 1.5 months, I can say this diet is for everyone. Very easy to stick to and you feel great while doing it.
Absolutely not. This diet will stip off fat and maintain muscle or gain a small amount on reduced cals. It will add muscle without much if any fat if you up cals. It is hormonal optimization. Caloric intake then decides the weight reduction or accumulation. The same overall “anabolic” environment that builds muscle also streamlines fat loss. On this diet, it is possible to be anabolic (perhaps anti-catabolic technically) with respect to muscle and catablolic with respect to body fat at the same time to get ripped. Whenever you use fats for fuel, you have contolled insulin, enhanced T and GH, avoidance of protein oxidation, and much more. The caloric intake then determines the “how much” you are adding, maintiaining, or losing. The hormonal profile the AD creates controls the “what” you are gaining or losing. Simplest way to look at it.
Calories = How much you gain/lose
Macronut. Ratio = What you gain/lose
DH
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Absolutely not. This diet will stip off fat and maintain muscle or gain a small amount on reduced cals. It will add muscle without much if any fat if you up cals. It is hormonal optimization. Caloric intake then decides the weight reduction or accumulation. The same overall “anabolic” environment that builds muscle also streamlines fat loss. On this diet, it is possible to be anabolic (perhaps anti-catabolic technically) with respect to muscle and catablolic with respect to body fat at the same time to get ripped. Whenever you use fats for fuel, you have contolled insulin, enhanced T and GH, avoidance of protein oxidation, and much more. The caloric intake then determines the “how much” you are adding, maintiaining, or losing. The hormonal profile the AD creates controls the “what” you are gaining or losing. Simplest way to look at it.
Calories = How much you gain/lose
Macronut. Ratio = What you gain/lose
DH
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thanks.
one more question.
the 15-18 times bodyweight for caloric intake,i’m assuming thats for packing on mass.what is the calculation if wanting to lose fat,and is it figured from total weight or lbm?
Hoss-
Costco by me has the same tin of Berio for 16 bucks.
THey have a 100% Italian olive oil, with certificate of authenticity, in a dark bottle for $13, that’s what I bought.
But considering this diet is expensive, I may simply save the good stuff for salads and for everything else the oil that is not 100% Italian.
Honestly Hoss, I wouldn’t bother if I were you. I don’t think you’d really care either way. Maybe you can buy a bottle of high quality oil and see if you notice a difference and go from there?
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Right. Unless you’re sporting single digit BF then “smooth out” is not helpful. For some, they can check their fingers. If you are retaining water then you may have had enough. But some retain quickly and easily. They may want to play around with sodium levels during the load and drink some distilled water to see if this helps. Really, don’t let it bother you either way. By sticking with at least 12 hours and no more than 36 you should be cool. Food choice plays a BIG part here. Keeping plenty of starches vs. junk will help most out significantly. Keep the numbers game and you’ll be fine. Also, some don’t realize that 36 hours, properly timed, is effectively “two” days. Sat morning (say 8am) until Sun evening (say 8pm) is 36 hours of loading, but you had CHO all day Sat and Sunday, or “two” days.
DH
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Funny you mention the starting the load when you wake on Saturday. I was just going to write to see if anyone else does this. In the book it says to start on Fri. night but hell, if you start Sat. morning, you get 2 full days in to load. This is more convenient, especially if you are putting back the amount of carbs DH does. It gives you more time to do things other than… eat. : )
What is the best type of weight training program to follow on this diet to keep your muscle. My first trying this or any other kind of diet.
Honestly, by the hormonal side effects of the diet muscle will be spared, but to specifaclly answer your question my advice would be anyhting where you lift hard and heavy. I do full body 3x/ week sessions consisting of compaound exercises, olympic lifts variations, and strongman exercises. So far it’s working well.
[quote]futuredave wrote:
I hate to ask such a simple question, but what’s the best way to get up to speed on this diet? I did a Search and didn’t find an article on it from the T-Nation staff.
Am I missing it? I’m sure I could wade through 1200 post and try to piece it together, but I’m hoping there’s an easier way. It sounds like people are very enthusiastic about it.
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Dave:
option 1:
. Do a search on the Metabolic Diet. Buy the Anabolic Solution as it is the same as the Anabolic Diet.
Option 2: Go to google (GOOGLE only)and search it. In one of the descriptions (usually the third one)you’ll find a place to buy the old Anabolic Diet that is now on CD-ROM w/ the original video.
Option 3: Read the first 20 pages of this thread, it’s relatively
painless…haha! 
Sabrina
I’ve been trying the Anabolic Diet for the last week, but after logging my food on fitday.com I seeing that im not getting enough mono fats as recommended by DH. I seem to be getting only 25% or so of my fats fall into that category and a lot in saturdated. I am in college so my choices of food are limited but I thought I was doing the best I could.
A typical workout day looks like this. By the way I am 18, 5’8 175 lbs doing a MWF full body workout routine. I am averaging about 3200 calories a day and usually get around 70% fat 33: protein and 6% carbs. Is everything good or should i be worried about getting more healthy fats. I probably drink a gallon of water a day at least and I must admit I’m loving the Hood Milk.
7:30 AM
Big Omlette w/ Sausage Bacon Mushrooms and Cheese
6-10 Pieces of Bacon or Sausage Links
3 Fish Oil Caps
Workout 9:30 AM
Postworkout 10:45 AM
16 Oz Hood Chocolate Milk
3-4 Beef Jerky Sticks
1/4 Cup Dry Roasted Walnuts
1:00 PM
Two Double Cheeseburgers(No bun)
Medium Sized Spinach Salad with olive oil and various nuts (i have to choke the spinach down)
4:00 PM
Roast Beef w/swiss cheese
7:30 PM
Chicken Breast(not sure exactly how big)
11:00 PM
1/4 Lb Cheeseburger
3 Fish Oil Caps