My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
I get my Fish Oil for 6.88 at Sam’s Club. Member’s Mark brand. Per 1g cap it contains:

180 EPA
120 DHA

I take 10 caps per day (to get 3g of the good stuff) and it comes 300 per bottle. A month perfectly.

DH

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Hey Hoss!

I take the same thing, (different brand, same micro breakdown). Thing is, for some reason I’ve been taking 20/day so I’m getting 3.6g EPA and 2.4g DHA every day. I know I’m smaller than you too, I’m like 5’7’’ 170. Is this overkill? I dunno where I got the idea that I need this much.
Best
-CA

Is there a particular fat split that we are supposed to shoot for? My understanding was just keeping it between 40-60% of total calories. I have the book but do not recall seeing how the different fats are supposed to be split up.

[quote]scottiscool wrote:
I’ve been trying the Anabolic Diet for the last week, but after logging my food on fitday.com I seeing that im not getting enough mono fats as recommended by DH. I seem to be getting only 25% or so of my fats fall into that category and a lot in saturdated.

What exactly is the difference between the Metabolic Diet and the Anabolic Solution?

Been on this diet since the beginning of the thread. Just starting to get cravings for carbs recently. Also been slipping on my week end carb ups. Been going almost 3 days (fri nite, sat and sun morning) Just going back to this thread every now and then has helped me in the past to get back on track. Thanks for keeping it going. Just from reading all of your guys experiences and enthusiasm has got me back on track again. No way in hell do I want to go through another 2 weeks without carbs. THANKS ALL!

Crashed yesterday.Felt like a mild flu in the morning,went into the kitchen to eat brekfast and found myself just sitting there for close to two hours.Went into the livingroom,dumped into a chair and sat there for the rest of the day.

Woke up today on top of th world!Energy’s rock steady,an I’m gaining weight AND getting leaner.Up from 82 to 83 kg.

Thanks for the heads-up Sonny. Wish we had a Costco around here. I’ve got a Sam’s Club, but Costco seems to carry more supps.

DH

[quote]Sonny S wrote:
Hoss-

Costco by me has the same tin of Berio for 16 bucks.

THey have a 100% Italian olive oil, with certificate of authenticity, in a dark bottle for $13, that’s what I bought.

But considering this diet is expensive, I may simply save the good stuff for salads and for everything else the oil that is not 100% Italian.

Honestly Hoss, I wouldn’t bother if I were you. I don’t think you’d really care either way. Maybe you can buy a bottle of high quality oil and see if you notice a difference and go from there?

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None basically. The MD is more geared toward the lay public. It shows how for some (minority) they can strategically up their CHO intake IF they need it. Poliquin and DiPas both speculate that about 80% of all people will do well on the strict AD. The other 20% can up the CHO at specific times as needed. The MD allows the general public to push the limits as they are only wanting to lose weight. We, on the other hand, want to maximize anabolism. Stick to the AD/AS. Leave the MD for the lay public.

DH

[quote]zdrax wrote:
What exactly is the difference between the Metabolic Diet and the Anabolic Solution? [/quote]

Don’t obsess too much. You’re young and as long as you are certain to take in about 3-5g of EPA/DHA per day then you’ll be alright. I did the same for the first 5 years of the AD too.

DH

[quote]scottiscool wrote:
I’ve been trying the Anabolic Diet for the last week, but after logging my food on fitday.com I seeing that im not getting enough mono fats as recommended by DH. I seem to be getting only 25% or so of my fats fall into that category and a lot in saturdated. I am in college so my choices of food are limited but I thought I was doing the best I could.

A typical workout day looks like this. By the way I am 18, 5’8 175 lbs doing a MWF full body workout routine. I am averaging about 3200 calories a day and usually get around 70% fat 33: protein and 6% carbs. Is everything good or should i be worried about getting more healthy fats. I probably drink a gallon of water a day at least and I must admit I’m loving the Hood Milk.

7:30 AM
Big Omlette w/ Sausage Bacon Mushrooms and Cheese
6-10 Pieces of Bacon or Sausage Links
3 Fish Oil Caps

Workout 9:30 AM
Postworkout 10:45 AM
16 Oz Hood Chocolate Milk
3-4 Beef Jerky Sticks
1/4 Cup Dry Roasted Walnuts

1:00 PM
Two Double Cheeseburgers(No bun)
Medium Sized Spinach Salad with olive oil and various nuts (i have to choke the spinach down)

4:00 PM
Roast Beef w/swiss cheese

7:30 PM
Chicken Breast(not sure exactly how big)

11:00 PM
1/4 Lb Cheeseburger
3 Fish Oil Caps

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Any Waterbury program. He’d suggest NB3. ABBH 1, Waterbury Method, and TBT have been my favorites. Ok, so I’m a Dubya advocate, sue me. ;-).

DH

[quote]reggc wrote:
What is the best type of weight training program to follow on this diet to keep your muscle. My first trying this or any other kind of diet.[/quote]

No problem, CA. Berardi suggests about 6-10g EPA/DHA combo. Probably where you got that idea. Most literature I’ve seen suggests about 2g or more for the health benefits. More is cool and may help speed metabolism a bit and aid in wound healing and recovery. Rock on, man.

DH

[quote]Charles Atlas wrote:
Disc Hoss wrote:
I get my Fish Oil for 6.88 at Sam’s Club. Member’s Mark brand. Per 1g cap it contains:

180 EPA
120 DHA

I take 10 caps per day (to get 3g of the good stuff) and it comes 300 per bottle. A month perfectly.

DH

Hey Hoss!

I take the same thing, (different brand, same micro breakdown). Thing is, for some reason I’ve been taking 20/day so I’m getting 3.6g EPA and 2.4g DHA every day. I know I’m smaller than you too, I’m like 5’7’’ 170. Is this overkill? I dunno where I got the idea that I need this much.
Best
-CA
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K,
Does the AS suggest starting on Fri eve? BodyOpus did, but Duchaine wanted a total of 48 hours of loading. Doc D usually says “2 days” or 12-48 hours. Usually 12-36 though. If indeed the AS does say this, could you shoot me the page #.

Thanks,
DH

[quote]kurmatt wrote:
Disc Hoss wrote:
Right. Unless you’re sporting single digit BF then “smooth out” is not helpful. For some, they can check their fingers. If you are retaining water then you may have had enough. But some retain quickly and easily. They may want to play around with sodium levels during the load and drink some distilled water to see if this helps. Really, don’t let it bother you either way. By sticking with at least 12 hours and no more than 36 you should be cool. Food choice plays a BIG part here. Keeping plenty of starches vs. junk will help most out significantly. Keep the numbers game and you’ll be fine. Also, some don’t realize that 36 hours, properly timed, is effectively “two” days. Sat morning (say 8am) until Sun evening (say 8pm) is 36 hours of loading, but you had CHO all day Sat and Sunday, or “two” days.

DH

Funny you mention the starting the load when you wake on Saturday. I was just going to write to see if anyone else does this. In the book it says to start on Fri. night but hell, if you start Sat. morning, you get 2 full days in to load. This is more convenient, especially if you are putting back the amount of carbs DH does. It gives you more time to do things other than… eat. : )

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The AD didn’t mention it. The MD goes into some detail on this. I thought the AS mentioned it in the fats section.??

DH

[quote]speedy5323 wrote:
Is there a particular fat split that we are supposed to shoot for? My understanding was just keeping it between 40-60% of total calories. I have the book but do not recall seeing how the different fats are supposed to be split up.

scottiscool wrote:
I’ve been trying the Anabolic Diet for the last week, but after logging my food on fitday.com I seeing that im not getting enough mono fats as recommended by DH. I seem to be getting only 25% or so of my fats fall into that category and a lot in saturdated.
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A true professional. ;-).

DH

[quote]Sabrina wrote:
futuredave wrote:
I hate to ask such a simple question, but what’s the best way to get up to speed on this diet? I did a Search and didn’t find an article on it from the T-Nation staff.

Am I missing it? I’m sure I could wade through 1200 post and try to piece it together, but I’m hoping there’s an easier way. It sounds like people are very enthusiastic about it.

Dave:

option 1:
. Do a search on the Metabolic Diet. Buy the Anabolic Solution as it is the same as the Anabolic Diet.

Option 2: Go to google (GOOGLE only)and search it. In one of the descriptions (usually the third one)you’ll find a place to buy the old Anabolic Diet that is now on CD-ROM w/ the original video.

Option 3: Read the first 20 pages of this thread, it’s relatively
painless…haha! :stuck_out_tongue:

Sabrina
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Scottiscool,
Looks good man. Very well done.

DH

[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
A true professional. ;-).

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A true copycat. :wink:

Do eggs have carbos in them? What’s up with that? I looked on the Nutritional Facts on my carton of eggs this morning and it said that there was 1 g of CHO in each large egg.

I thought these were free foods. Dang!

Oh, I had to move my belt up a notch today. Woo HoooO!!!

Thanks Hoss, just wanted to be sure. Hoglover, eggs DO have carbs in them, just a small amount. I’ve read that it’s anywhere from .6-1g per egg. I personally eat 6 every morning, I figure for the cost and amount of protein and good fats you get, its worth the small amount of carbs.
-CA

Labels usually round for simplicity/brevity. I believe the incredible edible egg has about .6g per.

DH

[quote]HogLover wrote:
Do eggs have carbos in them? What’s up with that? I looked on the Nutritional Facts on my carton of eggs this morning and it said that there was 1 g of CHO in each large egg.

I thought these were free foods. Dang!

Oh, I had to move my belt up a notch today. Woo HoooO!!![/quote]

[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Labels usually round for simplicity/brevity. I believe the incredible edible egg has about .6g per.

DH

HogLover wrote:
Do eggs have carbos in them? What’s up with that? I looked on the Nutritional Facts on my carton of eggs this morning and it said that there was 1 g of CHO in each large egg.

I thought these were free foods. Dang!

Oh, I had to move my belt up a notch today. Woo HoooO!!!

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Thanks for clarifying.

I like eggs because they are perfect for this diet, but I don’t eat them much because they make me really phlegmy. It is like I have this giant loogie stuck in the back of my throat and can’t get rid of it. Irritating.