My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

HL,
Have your diet soda. Don’t panic. Just hang in there. You’re overanalyzing and worrying too much. CHO makes you feel a little tighter because it holds water. It’s not muscle anyway, so remind yourself of that. Once you adapt and get a few cycles under your belt, you’ll see a difference. Don’t psych yourself out. Just set your nose to the grindstone and get through your adaptation phase and first load. You’ll then feel very tight. After a few rounds, your body will not bounce so wildly back and forth. Others have had this same experience in the thread a while back. Take some time to see how they turned out.

Sodium is just a quick fix for most because people tear up the bacon, baloney, and cheap high sodium meats. These are OK in limited intake but I wanted to make sure you weren’t living on them. Read the archives. I felt like dung on a dishplate during my initial conversion. It happens.

DH

[quote]HogLover wrote:
What is the rule on diet sodas? Are they a no-no or can one or two a day be had?

I’m on day 5 of this diet and I’m feeling a little puffy for whatever reason. Is it possible that I"m taking in too much sodium? Is that an important factor to watch in order to lose fat on the program?[/quote]

A REMINDER:

Most will crash hard on the adaptation phase.

Some will just take a dip.

Some will never notice anything on the radar screen.

Don’t panic in any scenario. It is heavily dependent on your particular metabolism and your previous diet.

Just stick to the numbers and give it a few weeks. Then all is well.

DH

Sounds like a winner, SD! good job

DH

[quote]starkdog wrote:
Good news,

Today is day 12 for me, and I have kept off 5 pounds. I do fluctuate between 271 to 273, depending on sodium intake. I can feel a change in body composition, as my pants feel looser, and my love handles are tightening up. Overall, I have plenty of energy, and have been sleeping quite well.

Interesting notes:

  1. High Test- I have not used Alpha Male yet during this phase, but I am hornier than hell. My skin is oilier, and this is kinda TMI, but morning-wood galore.

  2. Sleep- Before this diet, I had a hell of a time trying to sleep, but not now. I usually have a small salad with my dinner, and by 8:00, I am dead to the world. I fall into a deep sleep, and wake up at 4:00a.m. ready to go.

  3. Sensitivities- With cutting out crappy carbs and sugars, certain things like cabbage and broccoli taste really sweet. Also, a cup of coffee with breakfast is like doing a line or two of cocaine. I am ramped up for about 3 hours after a cup of coffee. I am also more sensitive to temperature since my fat deposits are evening out.

Thats all for now. I’ll post details of my first carb-up on Monday. -The Starkdog [/quote]

How is it going my AD brothers? I just got home from a two week business trip/carb binge. I need some help. I ate a lot of protein everyday and trained three days a week, but I averaged about 150-200 grams of carbs a day. I also ate quite a bit of dessert, like every night. I am going to start the AD back up on Sunday, should I jump back into 5/2 or would it be better to start fresh again with 12/2? I am thinking a 12/2 would work best. I also need to drop some of this nonfunctional mass I’ve gained. I am thinking of going straight into the cutting phase. Would going into the cut be optimal. I would just get all may answers out of the book, but my training partner has it and I can’t get it until Sunday. This thread had like 700 hits when I left and now its close to 1000. That is awesome.

JOe

I just picked up the Anabolic Solution for BB and read through it. (skimmed is more like it). I think I might have gotten taken. It seems to have basically the same info as the orignal AD, except for constantly mentioning ‘his’ products throughout. I love the AD and I am going to keep the AS for BB book. Just sorta seems like an ass fucking just happened. Any opinions? BTW, started some higher volume mass training today along with a corresponding increase (slow increases) in kcals. We’ll see what happens.

I got to read the book in more detail tonight and found that the 30 carbs can be taken in at any time in any way, spread out or all at once. Is it logical to take a serving of Surge equal to this number of carbs post workout?

From what I’ve read on this thread it seems that most just stick to a straight protein drink PWO, however, I was wondering if any have had success taking in all the daily carbs at this time.

[quote]speedy5323 wrote:
I got to read the book in more detail tonight and found that the 30 carbs can be taken in at any time in any way, spread out or all at once. Is it logical to take a serving of Surge equal to this number of carbs post workout?

From what I’ve read on this thread it seems that most just stick to a straight protein drink PWO, however, I was wondering if any have had success taking in all the daily carbs at this time.[/quote]

Technically, I guess you could, but it would be a VERY small serving of Surge. Just with the meats, cheese, and protein shakes, I am getting right around 20 - 22 grams of CHO. That leaves me enough for a huge spinach salad, and a few spare carbs. The carbs are everywhere, and they add up quickly. As DH said earlier in the thread, count EVERYTHING you put in your mouth. Hell, even my “sugarless” gum had 2g of CHO in it (I found this out on day 2).

Nothing of substance to add right now, but I just wanted to say I love the weekend solely because I get to have Surge post workout. I’m all tingly, literally. Long live the AD and this thread!

disc hoss-
Since I’ve been on the diet a month I’m experiencing muscle soreness all week long. I do an all body workout routine. I never really used to get DOMS but now it’s all the time (not severe just annoying) Any explanation and association with the diet?

[quote]kurmatt wrote:
disc hoss-
Since I’ve been on the diet a month I’m experiencing muscle soreness all week long. I do an all body workout routine. I never really used to get DOMS but now it’s all the time (not severe just annoying) Any explanation and association with the diet?[/quote]

Not DH, but try getting a gram of EPA postworkout and evaluate how much olive oil you’re consuming. I really notice my recovery/wound healing accelrate when I increase my mono consumption through olive oil. All those egg yolks and oil really give me a shiny coat, just like Rover…

Best of luck.

Hey guys, I just wanted to ask a question about saturated fats. Here in JB’s fat roundtable he says this:

JB: Right, punch’em in the brain. Then you better get your 150-pound butt on your bike and peddle away! Seriously, though, I think that the general recommendations to cut down on fat in the diet were well intended. At the time, the average sedentary individual was eating about 40% fat (most of this coming from saturated fats) in the diet. That’s a nice recipe for heart disease, obesity, etc.

Now all this steak,bacon,lean beef has sat fat - but wouldn’t that contradict what JB posted - albiet 5 years ago?

I’m just concerned about potential health risks? I’m 22, 222lbs doing this diet for fat loss.

Thanks in advance for any light you guys can shed.

Bro, I wouldn’t worry about saturated fat. I am with Doc D on this one with the thinking that refined grains, trans fats, and chemicals are more to blame than saturated fats. If you don’t believe me read this. The Changing Nature of Inuit Nutrition and Dietary Patterns

This links you to a study on Inuit food consumption. Some of the tribes live almost entirely on marine mammals.

Today is the end of day 8 on this program. Man, I cleared some serious hurdles this weekend. Had some friends over Saturday night and the wife fixed chocolate chip cookies (my favorite) and I resisted successfully. Then we went to Dixie Cafe last night and they had sweet potatoes caserole as their ‘Vegetable of the Day’, which they never have when I go there. I resisted this as well. DANG I’M GOOD! I’m really hoping that this program pays off because I’ve been saying no an awful lot lately.

I’m trying my best to get through the induction phase without getting too discouraged. I’m not really seeing a huge difference in the mirror, my clothes or on the scale but it is just the induction phase. So, hopefully after this phase I’ll start seeing some changes.

H.D - I read the article you posted and it certainly was interesting, but outdated. I love bacon, but I fear for my well being consuming 6 strips in a sitting, daily.

Hog: Thats some impressive abstinence sir. I’ll update my progress as well, as my goals seem similar to yours.

Awesome thread, lads.

You can feel the love on here.

Post your dietary intake for the next 3 days or so, HL. I mean everything. Check your shampoo for hidden CHO. THAT is how anal I want you to be.

DH

[quote]HogLover wrote:
Today is the end of day 8 on this program. Man, I cleared some serious hurdles this weekend. Had some friends over Saturday night and the wife fixed chocolate chip cookies (my favorite) and I resisted successfully. Then we went to Dixie Cafe last night and they had sweet potatoes caserole as their ‘Vegetable of the Day’, which they never have when I go there. I resisted this as well. DANG I’M GOOD! I’m really hoping that this program pays off because I’ve been saying no an awful lot lately.

I’m trying my best to get through the induction phase without getting too discouraged. I’m not really seeing a huge difference in the mirror, my clothes or on the scale but it is just the induction phase. So, hopefully after this phase I’ll start seeing some changes.
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12/2 if you are wanting to trim quicker.

DH

[quote]Joebob wrote:
How is it going my AD brothers? I just got home from a two week business trip/carb binge. I need some help. I ate a lot of protein everyday and trained three days a week, but I averaged about 150-200 grams of carbs a day. I also ate quite a bit of dessert, like every night. I am going to start the AD back up on Sunday, should I jump back into 5/2 or would it be better to start fresh again with 12/2? I am thinking a 12/2 would work best. I also need to drop some of this nonfunctional mass I’ve gained. I am thinking of going straight into the cutting phase. Would going into the cut be optimal. I would just get all may answers out of the book, but my training partner has it and I can’t get it until Sunday. This thread had like 700 hits when I left and now its close to 1000. That is awesome.

JOe[/quote]

No problem at all. It’s just tough to keep CHO low all day long thereafter. You can go 25 post and keep 15 back for the rest of the day. As long as you aren’t overdoing the loads, then this would be fine. Although, it is not at all necessary.

DH

[quote]speedy5323 wrote:
I got to read the book in more detail tonight and found that the 30 carbs can be taken in at any time in any way, spread out or all at once. Is it logical to take a serving of Surge equal to this number of carbs post workout?

From what I’ve read on this thread it seems that most just stick to a straight protein drink PWO, however, I was wondering if any have had success taking in all the daily carbs at this time.[/quote]

Well, the AS does include some new info on carb set points. Otherwise you’re correct. That’s why way back early in the thread, I said stick w/ the AD. Of course if you don’t have the AD already, as it’s only available on CD-ROM now, then the AS for BB is the only way to go to get a hard copy.

DH

[quote]ruglayer09052000 wrote:
I just picked up the Anabolic Solution for BB and read through it. (skimmed is more like it). I think I might have gotten taken. It seems to have basically the same info as the orignal AD, except for constantly mentioning ‘his’ products throughout. I love the AD and I am going to keep the AS for BB book. Just sorta seems like an ass fucking just happened. Any opinions? BTW, started some higher volume mass training today along with a corresponding increase (slow increases) in kcals. We’ll see what happens.[/quote]

conorh is correct. Up your good fats a bit (EPA/DHA and Olive oil) AND get quality red meat like steak. Add some creatine if you have it. Also keep vit C to about 1-3g, vit E to 800IU and maybe use a little baking soda or a phosphate supplement. Potassium phosphate should work well. Maybe a gram per day for a few weeks to see if this helps.

DH

[quote]kurmatt wrote:
disc hoss-
Since I’ve been on the diet a month I’m experiencing muscle soreness all week long. I do an all body workout routine. I never really used to get DOMS but now it’s all the time (not severe just annoying) Any explanation and association with the diet?[/quote]