Bro,
Read through the thread in it’s entirety. JB is correct IF and ONLY IF, you are consuming CHO also. This is an entirely different animal. Remember that I said before, you cannot extrapolate all data from certain sources because they test certain hypotheses under specific circumstances. You know, like “sunlight causes cancer” is predicated upon the duration of exposure. It isn’t an absolute statement but rather a conditional one.
If you are eating CHO AND your diet is 40% fat and heavy on the saturated, then yes, this is a bad thing. That is why we do the AD, it’s the combo of CHO and fat that kills. Aquaint yourself with the thread and you’ll have a better grasp and less fear.
Best,
DH
[quote]Tyler123 wrote:
Hey guys, I just wanted to ask a question about saturated fats. Here in JB’s fat roundtable he says this:
JB: Right, punch’em in the brain. Then you better get your 150-pound butt on your bike and peddle away! Seriously, though, I think that the general recommendations to cut down on fat in the diet were well intended. At the time, the average sedentary individual was eating about 40% fat (most of this coming from saturated fats) in the diet. That’s a nice recipe for heart disease, obesity, etc.
Now all this steak,bacon,lean beef has sat fat - but wouldn’t that contradict what JB posted - albiet 5 years ago?
I’m just concerned about potential health risks? I’m 22, 222lbs doing this diet for fat loss.
Thanks in advance for any light you guys can shed.[/quote]
Hey y’all. Quick little post before I go to school for the day. Last night my mom of all people was asking me about what the hell I was doing with this AD thing. When I explained it to her, she seemed very interested and mentioned that she might want to give it a shot. I just wanted some feedback as to whether or not this would be a good diet for a non weight-training, essentially non-excercising 50yr old woman. I
told her that I would recommend starting out just logging her intake for a few days, but that was really just to buy me some time. What does everybody think?
-CA
Absolutely. My mom is 50 and has lost 35lbs on it. Just keep them on an induction phase for about 2-3 weeks. Whatever they can honestly handle. Then give them a day of loading. Say a saturday. Once you loses a good amount, then give her the option for a longer load as per the AD guidelines.
DH
Be sure to emphasize NO cheating. I even scared my mom a bit for a little insurance againts sneaking snacks.
;-0. Hey!, it was necessary.
[quote]Charles Atlas wrote:
Hey y’all. Quick little post before I go to school for the day. Last night my mom of all people was asking me about what the hell I was doing with this AD thing. When I explained it to her, she seemed very interested and mentioned that she might want to give it a shot. I just wanted some feedback as to whether or not this would be a good diet for a non weight-training, essentially non-excercising 50yr old woman. I
told her that I would recommend starting out just logging her intake for a few days, but that was really just to buy me some time. What does everybody think?
-CA[/quote]
Thanks bro-
You have been a great help on this thread!
Matt
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
conorh is correct. Up your good fats a bit (EPA/DHA and Olive oil) AND get quality red meat like steak. Add some creatine if you have it. Also keep vit C to about 1-3g, vit E to 800IU and maybe use a little baking soda or a phosphate supplement. Potassium phosphate should work well. Maybe a gram per day for a few weeks to see if this helps.
DH
kurmatt wrote:
disc hoss-
Since I’ve been on the diet a month I’m experiencing muscle soreness all week long. I do an all body workout routine. I never really used to get DOMS but now it’s all the time (not severe just annoying) Any explanation and association with the diet?
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Well, the AS does include some new info on carb set points. Otherwise you’re correct. That’s why way back early in the thread, I said stick w/ the AD. Of course if you don’t have the AD already, as it’s only available on CD-ROM now, then the AS for BB is the only way to go to get a hard copy.
DH
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I do have the AD in ‘hardcopy’. Was kinda hopin for some new info in AS for BB. Ah well, live and learn. Maybe I’ll ask for a refund
Thanks DH. I’ll propose it to her, see if she wants to give it a try. I was sort of trying to scare her off of it last night, just because I can see her sticking “sort of” to the diet and drinking a few glasses of red wine with dinner. A bad combination to say the least. She has very high blood pressure, so I would want her to run it by her GP, who may put the kybosh on it anyway. If she goes on, I’ll post a log of her progress on this thread.
-CA
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Absolutely. My mom is 50 and has lost 35lbs on it. Just keep them on an induction phase for about 2-3 weeks. Whatever they can honestly handle. Then give them a day of loading. Say a saturday. Once you loses a good amount, then give her the option for a longer load as per the AD guidelines.
DH
Be sure to emphasize NO cheating. I even scared my mom a bit for a little insurance againts sneaking snacks.
;-0. Hey!, it was necessary.
Charles Atlas wrote:
Hey y’all. Quick little post before I go to school for the day. Last night my mom of all people was asking me about what the hell I was doing with this AD thing. When I explained it to her, she seemed very interested and mentioned that she might want to give it a shot. I just wanted some feedback as to whether or not this would be a good diet for a non weight-training, essentially non-excercising 50yr old woman. I
told her that I would recommend starting out just logging her intake for a few days, but that was really just to buy me some time. What does everybody think?
-CA
Just checking in. Have a huge race this weekend and am experimenting with half day loads today and Friday (racing is Saturday/Sunday). Over the past few weekends I’ve played with which day I’ve loaded (am cutting right now so loading only one day a week) and so far, I’ve felt better riding on P/F days and dried out rather than loaded and bloated. I’ll report back how the weekend treats me.
Do what I did. Sell it on Ebay. For those who don’t have the AD, then it’s the one to get.
DH
[quote]ruglayer09052000 wrote:
Disc Hoss wrote:
Well, the AS does include some new info on carb set points. Otherwise you’re correct. That’s why way back early in the thread, I said stick w/ the AD. Of course if you don’t have the AD already, as it’s only available on CD-ROM now, then the AS for BB is the only way to go to get a hard copy.
DH
I do have the AD in ‘hardcopy’. Was kinda hopin for some new info in AS for BB. Ah well, live and learn. Maybe I’ll ask for a refund
[/quote]
[quote]PtrDR wrote:
Is anyone using the diet for purely fat loss? and if so…how much “fat” have you lost?
Don[/quote]
8-10 pounds in eight weeks (scale weight has been down as much as 14lbs but I gain/lose 3-4 pounds each time I carb load).
Progress pics/details here: http://t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=698977
One quick question. Is there anything specefic in the diet regarding sodium intake? I’m not consuming a large amount, but there is a slight increase as compared to my previous diet.
Thanks for the responses guys. I am starting OVER again to try the diet for fat loss. I got off the horse for about a week due to some personal issues. Now I am doing the 12 day induction phase again. I want to at least maintain muscle while loosing fat.
It’s been 2 months for me on the AD with a 24-36 hour carb load each week. They should call this diet the “How to get incredibly lean while increasing strength without really trying”. This is hands down the leanest I’ve ever been and I’ve never been stronger (pound for pound). I’ve been asked by other dudes who lift where I’m getting my gear. (hahahah, doesn’t that sound like a cheesy commercial for cybergenics or something?)
The diet is also so easy to follow, too. Thanks to everyone for making this thread the single most useful thread, ever - for me at least.
I LOVE THIS DIET!!! I am still at 273, but I’ve had to tighten the belt a notch. I posted some pics on the pic board, the Starkdog Part2 thread. Anyhow, I am leaning out all over, but gradually. My gut has gone down a lot, but I still have some loose skin and fatty pockets. So far, I have lost 12.7 pounds of fat and water weight, and added about 5.7 lbs of lean mass! I have gone down about 4% bodyfat to 21%. I am ready to drop about another 30-40 lbs, and get ripped, yet huge.
I can’t get over how pumped I get in the gym. I have had to rest longer between sets because I can’t close my hands around the bar- that’s how bad my foreams pump up. I have started to reduce kcals a bit, as I have adapted well. I am also using Maximum Strength HOT-ROX 2caps 2x daily. I will bump it up to 4 2x, but it is still too damn hot here in Arkansas. I am already going through 3 shirts a day, as I am sweating like a stuck pig. I’ll keep up the updates. -The Starkdog
I’m having a strange experience on this diet. I am trying to lose a little bit of fat and so have gradually decreased cals to between 2000 and 2500. My viens are standing out on my forearms and biceps better, but I don’t seem to be losing any overall body fat, as my waist and caliper measurements have stayed the same. My scale weight is down to around 199, from 202 three weeks ago, but I don’t really worry about that. Any ideas?
[quote]JohnnyChainsaw wrote:
I’m having a strange experience on this diet. I am trying to lose a little bit of fat and so have gradually decreased cals to between 2000 and 2500. My viens are standing out on my forearms and biceps better, but I don’t seem to be losing any overall body fat, as my waist and caliper measurements have stayed the same. My scale weight is down to around 199, from 202 three weeks ago, but I don’t really worry about that. Any ideas?[/quote]
Hey Johnny,
How long have you been on the diet, especially the initial phase? I have been on it for about 3 weeks, and i am starting to see the fat melt off rapidly.
Are you using HOT-ROX?
I see that you are keeping kcals between 2000-2500. Are you ramping kcals, ie: 1500,2500, 3000, 2000, 2500? DH and IC suggest this as your body copes to adjust to caloric levels, it will use fat stores to make up for the lost calories.
What type of workouts are you doing?
I am using CW’s TBT, and I love it. I am sore as hell, and need to increase my potassium intake. If you are doing something like Meltdown, you might be wearing yourself thin, especially on 2000kcals.
Please, hook us up with some more details. -The Starkdog
JC,
Try some random fluctuations on the diet and keep the thyroid stoked with Kelp (or iodine supplement) and some HOT-ROX.
DH
[quote]JohnnyChainsaw wrote:
I’m having a strange experience on this diet. I am trying to lose a little bit of fat and so have gradually decreased cals to between 2000 and 2500. My viens are standing out on my forearms and biceps better, but I don’t seem to be losing any overall body fat, as my waist and caliper measurements have stayed the same. My scale weight is down to around 199, from 202 three weeks ago, but I don’t really worry about that. Any ideas?[/quote]
Awesome, bro. Had you tried any other low carb variations previously?
Once people let go of the fear, it’s a really enjoyable way to physique enhancement.
DH
[quote]grappler wrote:
It’s been 2 months for me on the AD with a 24-36 hour carb load each week. They should call this diet the “How to get incredibly lean while increasing strength without really trying”. This is hands down the leanest I’ve ever been and I’ve never been stronger (pound for pound). I’ve been asked by other dudes who lift where I’m getting my gear. (hahahah, doesn’t that sound like a cheesy commercial for cybergenics or something?)
The diet is also so easy to follow, too. Thanks to everyone for making this thread the single most useful thread, ever - for me at least.
Nothing specific beyond normal sane amounts. We just advise that you be careful because many foods that you may begin to eat in greater abundance are higher in sodium. Bacon, ham, cheese, pork rinds, etc…
Just keep sodium sane, but don’t be paranoid. If you happen to retain water easily, then you would maybe want to log your normal intake and then make a few food changes to drop the NA and see if your leanness improves.
DH
[quote]speedy5323 wrote:
One quick question. Is there anything specefic in the diet regarding sodium intake? I’m not consuming a large amount, but there is a slight increase as compared to my previous diet.[/quote]
