I too spent the weekend falling off every horse I’ve ever been on…but I was in Las Vegas for the UFC. It worked out well, though, since it was a weekend, I just treated it like a really bad carb load, which many of us have done. On Monday morning (while still in Vegas) I was right back on the AD. The diet’s going really well, and I think I’m going to start counting and cycling calories for a more effective fat loss effort. Unitl now, I lost 20 lbs. by just adhering to the principles of the program. Hoping to try and cut 20 more lbs or so, then I’ll try and add some muscle.
Good to have a woman on board. I think many are a bit intimidated by the volumes of flesh consumption. Done properly, this is the best.
Best,
DH
[quote]Sabrina wrote:
So, spent a goodly portion of company time reading this thread in it’s entirety last week.
I officially started Thursday, so nearly through day five. Just wanted to say hey and give it a bump.
So far pretty smooth sailing, but I was already very low carb so wasn’t a huge transition. Energy is fine and strength as of saturday (leg day) was actually up, tonight is chest w/o so we’ll see. 
Supplements currently include HOT-ROX, Methoxy-7, ZMA, fish oil, multi-vitamin, Grow!, Power Drive, creatine. I was already using all these items, nothing new as of the beginning of this diet…
Sabrina[/quote]
I finally ‘cheated’ last week.
I had carbs on tues night for a little bit then once on thurs night.
Still it was easy to recover and I feel good.
I’ve been on since jul 4 now.
[quote]Scrappy wrote:
I finally ‘cheated’ last week.
I had carbs on tues night for a little bit then once on thurs night.
Still it was easy to recover and I feel good.
I’ve been on since jul 4 now.[/quote]
So how much have you lost/gained?
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Good to have a woman on board. I think many are a bit intimidated by the volumes of flesh consumption. Done properly, this is the best.
Best,
DH
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Thanks DH! I do not fear the flesh. Or the fat for that matter. Carbs, however, give me the willies.
I have had some PM’s from a few females so thought I would answer those questions here, keeping in mind that I am no expert and this is just my experience, for what it’s worth and a little random.
My diet prior to beginning AD was along the lines of Paleo. With the exception of occasional Surge usage, carbs around 40-50g/day primarily in plant form, oats from time to time, and random carbs from shakes etc., making up the rest. Protein around 1.5g/lb. I was also using a “wavy” calorie profile, and will continue to do so on AD.
So, because I was already low carb and hypo-caloric, depletion phase for me was/is a matter of dumping a few carbs and upping the fat. Not a huge dietary change. Therefore, I chose not to make any drastic changes to overall caloric balance and am maintaining a similiar intake. I realize it isn’t recommended to go hypo-caloric immediately but I was already there and to riddled with angst jump up to maintenance. Optimum or not, that is going to be what it is. Additionally, the feeling of satiety at this stage is such that it is all I can do to cram in the amount I absolutely need to anyway.
Thus far I have not noticed loss of strength, in fact, seems to have increased, however, I crap out faster. I don’t necessarily attribute strength to dietary change, just an observation.
For the person who asked, saturday leg workout, Leg Curls-100#, SLDL’s-155#, Leg Press-whatever 8 plates is, Squats-225#, walking lunges, haven’t squatted for awhile so sore as a motherfucker on sunday. Yesterday, Chest-Flat bench-125#.
Also, no huge loss of energy through out the day, but I also know that the Hot-Rox helps with that and I drink tons of green tea.
I have no cravings, other than really missing a scoop of watery pre-workout Surge on the way to the gym! But other than that, lack of cravings is one of the best things, in my opinion about low carb. If I am going to have a craving it will generally be for something sweet and holy crap, if you haven’t tried strawberry Grow! with cream…
The other cool thing I notice immediately on super low carbs is skin improvement and less irritability. Or maybe I’m less irritable because my skin looks better, haha. Seriously though, just less moody in general.
So, will do my first carb up this weekend, intend to keep it pretty clean and avoid SUGAR! This is my intention anyway.
I can’t really offer any opinion about creatine, haven’t been taking it long enough to say, will have to get back on that.
My multi is Rainbow Light, Women’s Answer. Yes it’s a stupid name, no I don’t take it because it is gender specific. I like the formula, iodine free which is hard to find, and it is a whole food based formula. Compared to other vits I have taken I just feel better when I take this one.
Yes, I do think HOT-ROX and especially HOT-ROX plus methoxy “work”. I lost 2 sizes with almost no “weight” loss (pre-AD). This is with strict diet/training as well. However, have done strict diet/training alone and not lost 2 sizes w/out any scale movement.
Okay, think that covers it.
Sabrina
I was looking to lose and lost about 17lbs so far. It varies a bit. My high was 225 and my low was 202. Now, the thing is I’ve done nothing but BJJ training 2x/week tops, many weeks less than that. I have recently come back from a neck surgery so obviously what I can do is limited. BJJ is probably not the best thing but I love it. I train pretty light right now and I feel the diet would be even better if I were training more. I plan on adding some heavy bag work and some kettlebells soon. I’m also moving this week so that’s taken some time. I’ll keep updating.
[quote]HogLover wrote:
Scrappy wrote:
I finally ‘cheated’ last week.
I had carbs on tues night for a little bit then once on thurs night.
Still it was easy to recover and I feel good.
I’ve been on since jul 4 now.
So how much have you lost/gained?
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Has anyone experienced the feeling of being fat right at first when starting this program? I’m feeling more “chubby” than normal since I’ve started this. Could it be maybe mental or just the body adjusting? Has anyone else experienced this?
Not me, I felt terffic when I started. … when trousers start falling down or when you realise that you need more holes in
the belt, thats a great feeling.I now use my trouser belt as a measurement tool, tells me when to tighten up the diet.
How long have you been on the AD?If you are following the diet correctly you should definitely see improvement in the first 10-15 days
Keep at it
D
[quote]HogLover wrote:
Has anyone experienced the feeling of being fat right at first when starting this program? I’m feeling more “chubby” than normal since I’ve started this. Could it be maybe mental or just the body adjusting? Has anyone else experienced this?
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DH,
My stats
Weight - 176
Age -29
Waist -33
Arms -15
Chest-41
Thighs -23
Am a FFB, true endomorph
Bodyfat - around 15%(certain parts of the body carry a good amount of fat (mainly lower abs,and to a slight degree hips and chest), other parts are very lean like legs. Havent got my body fat tested but i have lost a lot of fat especially from the waist, am 2 inches down at the same weight so lean body mass must have gone up,
relaxed and easy going temprament.
Cold hands/feet -no, on the contrary they are warmer than average ( gf always wants to hold hands saying they are warm)
Lifts
Bench - 210 for 4
Deadlift - 230 for 4
Squats - 180 for 6 (Started squatting 3 months back)
I normally walk a lot (atleast 2-3 miles every other day), a few months back was using an Xvest.observed that walking helps with fat loss
Also noticed that it is difficult to get 3500-4000 cals on the AD for me unless i plan the day, i always fell 500-750 short this week as I was eating only when hungry. Hopefully will rectify this now.
Thanks
D
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
That should be a sound decision. See how many cals you can get away with, fluctuate them to stave off caloric adaptation, continue to keep a keen eye on your bodyfat and your temps. You should find that “magic” soon enough.
Also, without knowing your initial thyroid numbers before going on the AD, we are shooting in the dark. But considering that on the carb days and immediately thereafter you should be at your personal high end, then your overall fluctuation is not too bad. The above may optimize it a bit more.
DH
Can you give me a sense of your condition? Say maybe weight, rough BF percentage, age, and general demeanor (ie relaxed and easygoing or hyper etc…) Do you ever experience cold hands, feet, lower legs on a consistent basis?
DD
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[quote]dxbdude wrote:
Not me, I felt terffic when I started. … when trousers start falling down or when you realise that you need more holes in
the belt, thats a great feeling.I now use my trouser belt as a measurement tool, tells me when to tighten up the diet.
How long have you been on the AD?If you are following the diet correctly you should definitely see improvement in the first 10-15 days
Keep at it
D
HogLover wrote:
Has anyone experienced the feeling of being fat right at first when starting this program? I’m feeling more “chubby” than normal since I’ve started this. Could it be maybe mental or just the body adjusting? Has anyone else experienced this?
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I’m starting on my 4th day. I see the scale ticking down but I feel a little chubby and I think I look a little softer. It could just be my paranoia about eating so much fat though. I’ll give it a true shot for the recommended amount of time before judging my results.
Let me make sure I’m clear on the “rules” of this diet plan. During the high protein/high fat/low carb days I can eat as much protein and fat foods as I like throughout the day. Do I have to count my calories as well? What makes diets like these so attractive is the fact that you can eat as much as you want without counting calories. I have noticed however a number of you logging your meals and keeping track of calories. Is this necessary for success.
I have log-a-phobia. I can’t stand logging things.
Just watch the CHO for now. All else will work itself out eventually as you adapt. You may be eating too much in the way of processed/high sodium foods. This can make you feel a bit “squishy”. Really, just report back in at day 11 or 12. Then you’ll know something. And remember, fat burns fat. Tape that to your bedroom ceiling and make it your new mantra to get over the mental block. Repeat as necessary. 
best,
DH
[quote]HogLover wrote:
Let me make sure I’m clear on the “rules” of this diet plan. During the high protein/high fat/low carb days I can eat as much protein and fat foods as I like throughout the day. Do I have to count my calories as well? What makes diets like these so attractive is the fact that you can eat as much as you want without counting calories. I have noticed however a number of you logging your meals and keeping track of calories. Is this necessary for success.
I have log-a-phobia. I can’t stand logging things. [/quote]
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Just watch the CHO for now. All else will work itself out eventually as you adapt. You may be eating too much in the way of processed/high sodium foods. This can make you feel a bit “squishy”. Really, just report back in at day 11 or 12. Then you’ll know something. And remember, fat burns fat. Tape that to your bedroom ceiling and make it your new mantra to get over the mental block. Repeat as necessary.
best,
DH
HogLover wrote:
Let me make sure I’m clear on the “rules” of this diet plan. During the high protein/high fat/low carb days I can eat as much protein and fat foods as I like throughout the day. Do I have to count my calories as well? What makes diets like these so attractive is the fact that you can eat as much as you want without counting calories. I have noticed however a number of you logging your meals and keeping track of calories. Is this necessary for success.
I have log-a-phobia. I can’t stand logging things.
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I don’t ‘think’ I’m eating too much processed food. I’ll be sure to look at the sodium contect on what I eat. Most of what I’ve been eating isn’t packaged like I would think processed food would be except for cheese slice, or shredded cheese or something. That’s all I can really think of. Is the ground turkey processed? It’s the frozen tubes of ground turkey. O well, I’ll adjust.
Thanks for the response. I appreciate it.
Hoglover,
I experienced what you are going through when I first started on the AD. I tightened right up after the first carb-up sessions. This feeling has continued for me, during the carb-up and for 2 or 3 days following it I’ll feel very hard and vascular. On around Wed. or Thurs. (depending on how many CHO were ingested during the weekend) I’ll start to “loosen up”. Trust me, the fat burning effects of the diet are working fine, just stick with it.
-CA.
[quote]Charles Atlas wrote:
Hoglover,
I experienced what you are going through when I first started on the AD. I tightened right up after the first carb-up sessions. This feeling has continued for me, during the carb-up and for 2 or 3 days following it I’ll feel very hard and vascular. On around Wed. or Thurs. (depending on how many CHO were ingested during the weekend) I’ll start to “loosen up”. Trust me, the fat burning effects of the diet are working fine, just stick with it.
-CA.[/quote]
That’s comforting to hear. Thanks for the response.
Hey everyone. This is day 11 for me and I don’t think I have “crashed” yet. I was really out out of it and feeling lazy on day seven (last Sunday) but I though it was just from lack of sleep over the course of Friday and Saturday night.
I know I am at or below 30 carbs every day. Maybe I haven’t crashed because I was eating pretty much 50 - 100 carbs daily for 2 months prior to starting this?
Any input would be appreciated.
I am going to start the Anabolic diet soon and one thing that I have noticed in several posts and even an article is that some inlcude beer on the weekends as part of the carb up. My question is, does the anoabolic environment that is created during the week, better help to cope with the testosterone supression of alcohol, or is this just an extremely broad interpretation of the carb loading?
[quote]phatmike wrote:
Hey everyone. This is day 11 for me and I don’t think I have “crashed” yet. I was really out out of it and feeling lazy on day seven (last Sunday) but I though it was just from lack of sleep over the course of Friday and Saturday night.
I know I am at or below 30 carbs every day. Maybe I haven’t crashed because I was eating pretty much 50 - 100 carbs daily for 2 months prior to starting this?
Any input would be appreciated.
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I am on day 8 and no crash-yet-but I agree, I think this is due to being very low carb already, prior to starting. I am craving green beans though.
Good news,
Today is day 12 for me, and I have kept off 5 pounds. I do fluctuate between 271 to 273, depending on sodium intake. I can feel a change in body composition, as my pants feel looser, and my love handles are tightening up. Overall, I have plenty of energy, and have been sleeping quite well.
Interesting notes:
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High Test- I have not used Alpha Male yet during this phase, but I am hornier than hell. My skin is oilier, and this is kinda TMI, but morning-wood galore.
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Sleep- Before this diet, I had a hell of a time trying to sleep, but not now. I usually have a small salad with my dinner, and by 8:00, I am dead to the world. I fall into a deep sleep, and wake up at 4:00a.m. ready to go.
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Sensitivities- With cutting out crappy carbs and sugars, certain things like cabbage and broccoli taste really sweet. Also, a cup of coffee with breakfast is like doing a line or two of cocaine. I am ramped up for about 3 hours after a cup of coffee. I am also more sensitive to temperature since my fat deposits are evening out.
Thats all for now. I’ll post details of my first carb-up on Monday. -The Starkdog
What is the rule on diet sodas? Are they a no-no or can one or two a day be had?
I’m on day 5 of this diet and I’m feeling a little puffy for whatever reason. Is it possible that I"m taking in too much sodium? Is that an important factor to watch in order to lose fat on the program?