Where the heck is MDragon?
DH
Also I just got #900. That means I’ve got the last three. 700,800,900.
Ha Ha
#901 is just as good. Damn DH, did you drink a couple shots of espresso before that last posting frenzy? Thanks for the PWO nutrition info, I think it will help us all out a ton.
I guess it’s time for a check-up. I’m sitting at around 175 at about 12-13%BF. Strength is definately up, and I’ve been gaining weight every week with no change in my caliper measurements.
However, I checked my BP yesterday (3 times) and it has gone from normal to high normal, indicating to me that I am starting to store too much fat in my interabdominal region. I think I’m going to go on a short cutting cycle to lose about 10lbs of fat, hopefully mainly from this area. Vasuveda has been a huge help figuring out the caloric wave with me, so this shouldn’t take more than a 6 weeks. After that I’ll probably do a slight bulk all school year long. I’m thinking of a weight-loss wave looking like this, (my maitenance is ~3500kcals/day):
Mon-875kcals
Tues-1750kcals
Wed-5250kcals
Thurs-875kcals
Fri-1750kcals
Sat-3936kcals
Sun-3936kcals
This should set me up for a net fat loss of around 1.75lbs/week, allowing me to achieve my fat loss goals in a little under 6 weeks. I’ll be taking my normal supplements, but adding 2-4 tabs of HOT-ROX varying by caloric deficit. I won’be doing this cycle for a few weeks, as I need to start school next week. I’ll keep y’all updated on my progress.
-CA
Hey all-
I followed the AD back when it was first introduced by Dr. D back in 95 (I think). I still have the video but apparently I have lost the booklet that came with the video.
Anyways, I followed the AD for about 6 months. As I recall, I quit the AD because of what I thought back then was a little flaccidity, that is, I thought I was gaining fat–but after reading comments by those savvy(i.e., discerning), seasoned veterans, it seems that if I just kept on a bit longer and/or made some adjustments the flaccidity would have dissipated.
Thinking back, I certainly would have added more fiber and water to the low carb week.
Some questions for the more erudite (though certainly NOT limited just to them) ones–at least as far as experience with the AD is concerned:
Could the aforementioned flaccidity be due to too much sodium from bacon, cheese, etc.?
What about too much sodium despite the low carbs–that is, could someone or more specifically, have you experienced bloating, water retention, flaccidiy, or whatever due to too much sodium from yummy bacon, during the low carb (30 grams) week? If so, the only thing that I can think of to remedy the situation is to increase water intake all the more, plus maybe increase potassium intake to X amount? What is the maximum recommended dosage for potassium (K) by the way during the low carb/high protein/high fat strech? 1 gram?
Thanks and later,
extol
P.S. By the way, I HAVE read though the ENTIRE thread. Thus, if anything in the above has been addressed already my apologies in advance. Also, I am by no means a ‘newbie’ so very short, concise, brief, comments/answers will more than suffice–specially if something has already been repeatedly addressed.
Just wanted to pop in and post my progress on this diet.
I went through the shift without much fanfare (I was already watching my carb intake pretty good)and after 12 day shift I had my first carb load this past weekend. I didn’t really keep tabs on total calories just played it smart and didn’t go too, too crazy : ) By Sun afternoon I figured it was enough and then hit the gym. I’ve got to say I was extremely happy with the results of my workout. After 12 days of low carbing it I was flat and not expecting too much right away. After 36 hours of a carb load it was like magic. I literally got a pump on my way to the gym. 2 days later and I’m still getting a good pump at the gym. I’ve really got high hopes now for this diet especially after I do some fine tuning. Thanks DH and everyone else!
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Uhh, do I know you BD?
DH
BookemD wrote:
AceQHounddog wrote:
Does anyone get wicked gas during their carb-ups? I’ve had it bad, no matter if my carb-up is clean or no holds barred inaling everything in sight. What have you found to combat this cause I’m making myself sick!
Ahhh…the joy of carb days…a nice summer morning…a plate full of carbs…the calming smell of Hounddog lingering in the air…
He…he…it happens bro…I just go with it. There are things you can take to minimize it, Bean-o, etc…, but it’s a good way to spend quality time alone with your carbs don’t you think? he…he…
Ask DH, we have had many fond memories with our carb days. What’s the saying, “Let no door go unsealed?” ;o)
-BD
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My heart hurts! Please make it go away. One or two nights of methane production and he wants to put me out of his mind.
Sigh…I guess I don’t blame him, even the cats were acting strange backing away from the door. At least you now have 1200 mile buffer from my carb days.
-BD
Good news!
Day #3, and I am now 273 lbs! Yeah I dropped 3 lbs of water, but I feel great, despite a little GI grumbling. A cup of spinach with a tablespoon of butter fixed that problem. So far, I have not had any cravings for carbs. I actually find it difficult to pack in 30g, but I will up the broccoli and spinach. My joints feel “well oiled” and some of the joint swelling and stiffness has gone down. It is amazing how puffy I get with carbs. I’ll wait until Monday to start TBT, so that I get everything diet-wise dialed in(nothing like crapping your pants while deadlifting).
I fixed this for lunch, and it is a great quick meal. 1/2lb of Tilapia, 1Tbsp Olive Oil spread in baking dish, Greek seasoning and pepper. On the side, I had 1/2 walnuts, and some chedder cheese.
Also, I fixed this earlier, but I mixed 2oz of heavy cream with 2 scoops of Low-Carb Grow! and some water. This is to die for! I seriously thought that I was drinking cake batter. I was full for about 6 hours. I also enjoy turkey burgers pan fried in olive oil. Oh, I just love this diet. I can feel the warmth after eating, and I sweat profusely for about an hour.
-The Starkdog
Random thoughts about a few things that I noticed since being on this diet for almost 3 weeks now:
- I’m pretty tired during the day
- My waist has gotten bigger by 1-1/2"
- I need to broaden my diet beyond chopped meat, eggs, whipping cream and oils
- More people have commented on my looking “big” in the last 4 days than in the last year (as I stated in a previous post, after my first carb load I was really pumped, and this lasted from Sun- Wed)
- Normal everyday people (co-workers) think I’m insane doing this type of diet
- I don’t particularly like cooking and I need to make more time to do it
I’m hoping the tiredness and the gut subside.
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Deinabolic,
There’s no problems with also upping Sats and Monos to an equal level once the necessary precautions are covered with proper PUFA’s like fish oil. Even higher if you like. This should really be predicated on age, health, family history, etc… By getting a good 30% as a minimum you should be cool with having plenty of T material. I’ll usually eat about 250g per day of fat. Of this I get about 40g of PUFA, 120g MUFA, and 90g of SFA (sat fats).
As you can see I don’t get too nit picky about it as long as MUFA and PUFA are up to snuff. Plus I rely heavily on olive oil for calories with my shakes, salads, and meats. Good for the cholesterol and much more. For my PUFA, my main sources are omega eggs, seeds, nuts, fish oil, some flax oil, and add-ins here and there. Sunflower seeds, walnuts, and almonds (as well as natty peanut butter and almond butter) are all some of my biggest sources beyond the oils (fish and flax)
Just think sensible ranges instead of exact amounts. No sense getting anybody crazy.
Best,
DH
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going to history I am concerned about chloesteral levels with this much sat fat. Mine was checked two weeks ago and was 265. with this concern I have began to try to aggressively increase my workout intensity .[ age 40/225lbs/large frame build 18% bf.
another questin RED KAT / Carbolin 19 would this be a usefull stack or just spending money on the same approach?
Gentlemen,
I have noticed a difference in the recommendations for cutting while on the AD.
DH seems to recommend shortening the carb window and reducing carb intake to around 400 grams per weekend.
Vasu recommends waving calories throughout the week at low levels overall and then spiking with extremely high cals and high carbs on weekends.
I am interested to hear from the AD experts about the relative merits and drawbacks for each approach.
Todd
[quote]carpenter480 wrote:
Disc Hoss wrote:
Deinabolic,
There’s no problems with also upping Sats and Monos to an equal level once the necessary precautions are covered with proper PUFA’s like fish oil. Even higher if you like. This should really be predicated on age, health, family history, etc… By getting a good 30% as a minimum you should be cool with having plenty of T material. I’ll usually eat about 250g per day of fat. Of this I get about 40g of PUFA, 120g MUFA, and 90g of SFA (sat fats).
As you can see I don’t get too nit picky about it as long as MUFA and PUFA are up to snuff. Plus I rely heavily on olive oil for calories with my shakes, salads, and meats. Good for the cholesterol and much more. For my PUFA, my main sources are omega eggs, seeds, nuts, fish oil, some flax oil, and add-ins here and there. Sunflower seeds, walnuts, and almonds (as well as natty peanut butter and almond butter) are all some of my biggest sources beyond the oils (fish and flax)
Just think sensible ranges instead of exact amounts. No sense getting anybody crazy.
Best,
DH
going to history I am concerned about chloesteral levels with this much sat fat. Mine was checked two weeks ago and was 265. with this concern I have began to try to aggressively increase my workout intensity .[ age 40/225lbs/large frame build 18% bf.
another questin RED KAT / Carbolin 19 would this be a usefull stack or just spending money on the same approach?
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If you think it is too much of a risk, you may want to steer clear of this diet. HOWEVER, Dr. D and several of the posters on this thread have noted significant improvements in blood profiles for people who have followed this diet. I think that that is something to consider.
As far as your supps, I would think that Carbolin 19 would work well with the diet. I would also think that RED KAT is probably not necessary given the elevated hormone levels you will experience with adaptation, thus SHBG will not be a big concern.
Todd
Hi all,
Just wanted to throw in some words about my personal experience.
So far 3 carb-ups into the AD.
Like:
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My energy levels are pretty constant during the day, even well into the evening. My previous experience with higher carb diets was slight sleepiness shortly after a meal and hunger 2-3 hours after that.
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No hunger during the day! I just eat because I look at the clock and I know it is time to, but there is no feeling of hunger. OK, I can still tell if I’ve gone too long since my previous meal, but the body’s signals are much more subtle.
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Steaks. Great diet for me, given that I love meat.
Dislikes:
- Weekend carb-up gas side-effects. Well, with the previous diets I had gas 7 days a week, so I guess this is an improvement anyway.
Other comments:
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I am concerned about my cholesterol, but I don’t have hard data either way yet. I will monitor it and keep you posted.
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I’m currently cutting and I’m waving the calories during the week. Not really planning how many calories I am going to eat each day, just having a sample menu with the minimum number of calories I want to get, trying to stick to it, but occasionally adding an extra meal if I’m starting to feel sluggish. Just playing it by ear. I’d rather not push myself too hard and lose muscle. I’m in no rush.
Well, today is day 4 for me, and things have been going really well. I did get a headache last night, but it subsided for the most part, though it’s kinda in “the background” right now. Not a big deal at all.
Let’s keep this thread alive, it really is great to read it everyday to see how everyone is doing.
Well I for one have been on this diet for around 6-7 weeks now and I would not even consider going back to a carb-based diet, I just wish I’d tried this earlier.
I have found it a lot easier to get the kcals in, as everything I eat is so calorie dense, and I have also never felt (or been) stronger.
For those thinking about trying it, go and do it…
Day#4,
Feeling strong, yet I’m hardly hungry. Strangely enough, I’m hungry shortly after eating a meal. Anyways, down to 271.5. I’ve got a buddy who will be going on this diet soon. -Starkdog
Been curiously reading this thread and some others about the AD diet. Is this a good plan for BF reduction? I noticed some guys are wanting to get bigger but I’m actually wanting to get about 30 lbs. smaller. Is this the right plan?
toddjacobs13:
I cannot speak for DH. I am far from an expert on the AD. He knows FAR more about this approach. But to clarify my position, I do recommend undulating caloric waves.
An undulating caloric approach allows the individual to play with the caloric numbers and macro-nutrient percentages (the range Doc D provides). If you subscribe to this perspective, neither DH’s or my approach is right or wrong, but an option. Really, this perspective encompasses both our suggestions.
It all depends on individual goals and how an individual’s body responds. For some, low levels during the week and extremely high calories and high CHO on the weekend is the best option. For others, reducing CHO intake on the weekend is the way to go. Perhaps the high weekend CHO wave lasts only a week, and then the wave switches to 400 grams per weekend. Whatever. The idea is to experiment and force the body to adapt to variety.
If you are interested, PM me your caloric needs and current regime and we can figure something out.
[quote]samir wrote:
Been curiously reading this thread and some others about the AD diet. Is this a good plan for BF reduction? I noticed some guys are wanting to get bigger but I’m actually wanting to get about 30 lbs. smaller. Is this the right plan?
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From my personal experience cutting so far (2 weeks), it is ridiculously easy.
I eat lower calories (2200-2500) during the week, and have my regular carb-ups in the weekend (~3300cals, i.e. my maintenance level) and even a few treats.
Results:
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Lost around 3lb on the first week
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Relatively painless in terms of sluggishness and hunger. Definitely much easier than the Velocity Diet.
IMHO, carbing up at maintenance calories is great for giving the body a chance to recover from the week’s beating before you start again on Monday.
I am doing this as a means of reducing body fat. I am only on day four, but it seems simple enough so far, and no cravings really. I would agree with a previous poster who said that it is easier that the velocity diet (which I did for the full 28 days).
The logic of the diet to me seems to be perfect for losing fat, but on the other hand, it is perfect for gaining muscle with min fat as well. After reading the whole thread and really thinking about what DH has written (thanks DH!) it didn’t make any sense to me to stick to any other nutrition plan. I figured that after doing the velocity and t-dawg, I might as well stop the purgatory as DH put it of moderate carbs.
[quote]samir wrote:
Been curiously reading this thread and some others about the AD diet. Is this a good plan for BF reduction? I noticed some guys are wanting to get bigger but I’m actually wanting to get about 30 lbs. smaller. Is this the right plan?
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[quote]samir wrote:
Been curiously reading this thread and some others about the AD diet. Is this a good plan for BF reduction? I noticed some guys are wanting to get bigger but I’m actually wanting to get about 30 lbs. smaller. Is this the right plan?
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I’m finishing up week six since starting the AD and have lost 10-12ish LBS w/no loss of strength or energy whatsoever. Progress pics will be taken tomorrow and I’ll post them here.
Keep in mind I started at +/- 13% BF and have not tried to go too low on cals (usually 2500-3000 @ starting point of 207lbs and could reasonably drop another 500 cals/day) so if you’re bigger/heavier, will likely lose fat quicker.
[quote]Deinabolic wrote:
samir wrote:
Been curiously reading this thread and some others about the AD diet. Is this a good plan for BF reduction? I noticed some guys are wanting to get bigger but I’m actually wanting to get about 30 lbs. smaller. Is this the right plan?
I’m finishing up week six since starting the AD and have lost 10-12ish LBS w/no loss of strength or energy whatsoever. Progress pics will be taken tomorrow and I’ll post them here.
Keep in mind I started at +/- 13% BF and have not tried to go too low on cals (usually 2500-3000 @ starting point of 207lbs and could reasonably drop another 500 cals/day) so if you’re bigger/heavier, will likely lose fat quicker.
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I’ve been on the AD for about 5 weeks and have lost 20 lbs, with no strength loss. It’s been great and easy. I don’t count calories, just follow the diet protocaols.