My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]Squash85 wrote:
Whey Man wrote:

That’s what I did (thouhg it’s not recommended). The important thing is that you’re switching your body from using carbs as your source of fuel to fat, so just make sure your macros are right.

OK, so on

weekdays: <30g carbs, all p/f meals, at least 1g/lb protein and fat should make up like 40-60% macronutrients?

weekends: excess carb loading, reduce protein and minimal fat? what should the macronutrient ratios be exactly on weekends?

Sorry, I know I should do more reading up but this thread is so huge.[/quote]

During the transition phase, fats should make up 55-60% of your intake. Once you’re adapted, 50-55% is what I’d personally recommend. Then protein makes up the rest of your calories (plus whatever you’re getting from carbs as long as it’s under 30g).

The Dr. recommends 60% carbs, 30% fat, and 10% protein on weekends. But it seems that most of us here, myself included, don’t go by this ratio. We just make sure we get alot of carbs in along with protein and fat. The main thing is to not just eat the carbs by themselves. Always combine them with protein and/or fat on the weekend.

I haven’t checked in for a while. I have been on the AD since July 23rd 2007 (4 1/2 months). I was doing great by August 15th confirmed by my improved morale, energy, libido, and radically increased testosterone level (Total Testosterone: 32.6 nmol/L on a ref range of 7.37 - 23.08 and more importantly Free Testosterone 394 pmol/L on a ref range of 163 - 508). Having my free testosterone in the “sweet” zone of the ref range was a huge increase for me since I have been struggling with a free testosterone level below the ref range or slightly above for several years now. Needless to say I was ecstatic. I felt great for the whole summer as a matter of fact, but started flagging as the fall hit. By then decreases in my morale, libido, and energy indicated to me that my hormonal levels were starting to drop once again. This was finally confirmed in a blood analysis done on Nov. 29, 2007. My Cholesterol numbers are still very good although slightly higher LDL than my August analysis. Triglycerides still flagged low (a good thing). Total testosterone down to 18.9 on ref range of 7.37 - 23.06 and more importantly free testosterone only 207 on 163 - 508 ref range. For those of you proficient in hormonal levels, the main factor limiting the amount of total testosterone converting to free testosterone in my case is a very stubborn elevated SHBG (Sexual Hormone Binding Globulin) level ==> 81.2 on a ref range of 10.5 - 50.4.

SHBG steals valuable testosterone in the conversion process. The other possible culprit is estrogen, but mine has always been very low so this is not a factor in my case. Too bad in a way since estrogen is really easy to control as opposed to SHBG which science has not yet found an effective way to reduce. As you may have noticed from the numbers I quoted, the only way for me to achieve a “sweet zone” free testosterone level is to be over the high end of the ref range in total testosterone due to the SHBG factor in my case. Also thyroide free T3 down from 6.1 to 3.9 on ref range of 2.8 - 7.1. It seems my metabolism has slowed down to a crawl.

Maybe some of you can help me determine the trigger for this decline. The only changes to my diet have been a reduction of fat intake from 60+% to more like 50% in the form of a little reduced olive oil and no more cheese (except a tablespoon of grated parmigiana mixed in with my broccoli. I also recently reduced to 1 clean carb day per week (was getting a spare tire).

Carb reload

2 bowls of oatmeal with 2% milk & lots of berries, 2 large plates of whole wheat spagettini, and a large sweet potato.

My typical low-carb day is:

Breakfast

4 scrambled eggs (pan coated with 1 tablespoon butter) with 1 heaping tablespoon of ground flaxseed, seasonings, & a heaping tablespoon dollop of natural almond butter.

Morning Snack

1 handful of raw almonds (14 medium size)

Lunch

8 ounces of beef with 2 salads (tabouli or artichoke salad and a romain lettuce based salad). Some carbs in the form of tomatoes in tabouli and slivers of red, yellow, orange peppers in the romaine based salad. This is a meal from a Lebanese restaurant. The vinaigrettes are oil and vinegar based and not goopy.

Afternoon snack

another handful of almonds (14 medium sized)

PWO

10 oz water, 1 scoop whey ISO (3 CHO), 1 packet Stevia, a little 0 CHO jello powder, 1 tsp creatine.

Dinner

10 oz meat in the form of chicken, or salmon, or tuna, or seasoned lean ground beef (drained of fat after cooking), with two heads of steamed broccoli (large serving), 1 heaping tablespoon ground flaxseed, 1 tbsp parmigiana, a small handful of raw pistacios (10-12), and seasonings.

Other than that I have 3 coffees per day with Stevia and a little heavy cream (35% = 0 CHO). I do chew sugarless gum after my coffee 3 times per day and I know there are several CHO in each stick.

Evening snack

1 handfull of walnuts (approx 10 halves)

My training was CW high frequency for the last 2+ months and now I have started a lighter Bill Starr 5 x 5 and put back some cardio in the form of skipping along with some core training on my off days.

I take 60 grains of thyroide meds each morning for slightly underactive thyroid function and recently upped that to 90 grains (since seeing my Nov. 29, 2007 blood results). The type I take has both T4 & T3 components. It is called “Thyroide” and sold in Montreal where I reside (equivalent to "Armour in U.S.). I also take a multi-vitamin, 6 caps of omega-3 (2 g EPA & 1.4 g DHA), 5000 I.U. vitamin D, 50 mg DHEA, 50 mg Pregnenolone per day.

Any recommendations would be appreciated. If you require more details from me - just ask.

This thread just does not stand still!

A few pages back, Chris mentioned pure cocoa…low on carbs, big on flavor.

Another tasty treat w/cocoa:
A tbsp or so in your cottage cheese at night w/ some natty peanut butter if you must -although I prefer a handful of almonds in mine. Add a pkt of Splenda/Aspartame to taste.

Pretty girls just love it -and they don’t even know it’s good for 'em.

peace
:wink:

[quote]Black Cat wrote:
It seems my metabolism has slowed down to a crawl.

Maybe some of you can help me determine the trigger for this decline. The only changes to my diet have been a reduction of fat intake from 60+% to more like 50% in the form of a little reduced olive oil and no more cheese (except a tablespoon of grated parmigiana mixed in with my broccoli. I also recently reduced to 1 clean carb day per week (was getting a spare tire).

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

I recommend you go back to what was working. High fat in the 65-70% range helps raise free test, and the 2 day carb load helps build up metabolic speed. To lose the fat tire cut calories some during the week (500 below base),keep the carbs clean and not too high 300g carbs each of the 2 days for example. Do cardio on your non lifting days.

G

[quote]Anabolic1965 wrote:
Black Cat wrote:
It seems my metabolism has slowed down to a crawl.

Maybe some of you can help me determine the trigger for this decline. The only changes to my diet have been a reduction of fat intake from 60+% to more like 50% in the form of a little reduced olive oil and no more cheese (except a tablespoon of grated parmigiana mixed in with my broccoli. I also recently reduced to 1 clean carb day per week (was getting a spare tire).

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

I recommend you go back to what was working. High fat in the 65-70% range helps raise free test, and the 2 day carb load helps build up metabolic speed. To lose the fat tire cut calories some during the week (500 below base),keep the carbs clean and not too high 300g carbs each of the 2 days for example. Do cardio on your non lifting days.

G

[/quote]

Thanks for taking the time Anabolic1965. I’ll compile feedback and make adjustments accordingly.

What’s up everyone? I started the AD 6 weeks ago coming from a traditional high carb diet. I have read (and reread many parts of)the first 100 pages of this thread before deciding to jump into the current discussion. I am loving the diet so far and I still have much to learn and a lot of tweaking of my own diet to do. This is a rockin lifestyle!

[quote]Black Cat wrote:
I haven’t checked in for a while. I have been on the AD since July 23rd 2007 (4 1/2 months). I was doing great by August 15th confirmed by my improved morale, energy, libido, and radically increased testosterone level (Total Testosterone: 32.6 nmol/L on a ref range of 7.37 - 23.08 and more importantly Free Testosterone 394 pmol/L on a ref range of 163 - 508). Having my free testosterone in the “sweet” zone of the ref range was a huge increase for me since I have been struggling with a free testosterone level below the ref range or slightly above for several years now. Needless to say I was ecstatic. I felt great for the whole summer as a matter of fact, but started flagging as the fall hit. By then decreases in my morale, libido, and energy indicated to me that my hormonal levels were starting to drop once again. This was finally confirmed in a blood analysis done on Nov. 29, 2007. My Cholesterol numbers are still very good although slightly higher LDL than my August analysis. Triglycerides still flagged low (a good thing). Total testosterone down to 18.9 on ref range of 7.37 - 23.06 and more importantly free testosterone only 207 on 163 - 508 ref range. For those of you proficient in hormonal levels, the main factor limiting the amount of total testosterone converting to free testosterone in my case is a very stubborn elevated SHBG (Sexual Hormone Binding Globulin) level ==> 81.2 on a ref range of 10.5 - 50.4.

SHBG steals valuable testosterone in the conversion process. The other possible culprit is estrogen, but mine has always been very low so this is not a factor in my case. Too bad in a way since estrogen is really easy to control as opposed to SHBG which science has not yet found an effective way to reduce. As you may have noticed from the numbers I quoted, the only way for me to achieve a “sweet zone” free testosterone level is to be over the high end of the ref range in total testosterone due to the SHBG factor in my case. Also thyroide free T3 down from 6.1 to 3.9 on ref range of 2.8 - 7.1. It seems my metabolism has slowed down to a crawl.

Maybe some of you can help me determine the trigger for this decline. The only changes to my diet have been a reduction of fat intake from 60+% to more like 50% in the form of a little reduced olive oil and no more cheese (except a tablespoon of grated parmigiana mixed in with my broccoli. I also recently reduced to 1 clean carb day per week (was getting a spare tire).

Carb reload

2 bowls of oatmeal with 2% milk & lots of berries, 2 large plates of whole wheat spagettini, and a large sweet potato.

My typical low-carb day is:

Breakfast

4 scrambled eggs (pan coated with 1 tablespoon butter) with 1 heaping tablespoon of ground flaxseed, seasonings, & a heaping tablespoon dollop of natural almond butter.

Morning Snack

1 handful of raw almonds (14 medium size)

Lunch

8 ounces of beef with 2 salads (tabouli or artichoke salad and a romain lettuce based salad). Some carbs in the form of tomatoes in tabouli and slivers of red, yellow, orange peppers in the romaine based salad. This is a meal from a Lebanese restaurant. The vinaigrettes are oil and vinegar based and not goopy.

Afternoon snack

another handful of almonds (14 medium sized)

PWO

10 oz water, 1 scoop whey ISO (3 CHO), 1 packet Stevia, a little 0 CHO jello powder, 1 tsp creatine.

Dinner

10 oz meat in the form of chicken, or salmon, or tuna, or seasoned lean ground beef (drained of fat after cooking), with two heads of steamed broccoli (large serving), 1 heaping tablespoon ground flaxseed, 1 tbsp parmigiana, a small handful of raw pistacios (10-12), and seasonings.

Other than that I have 3 coffees per day with Stevia and a little heavy cream (35% = 0 CHO). I do chew sugarless gum after my coffee 3 times per day and I know there are several CHO in each stick.

Evening snack

1 handfull of walnuts (approx 10 halves)

My training was CW high frequency for the last 2+ months and now I have started a lighter Bill Starr 5 x 5 and put back some cardio in the form of skipping along with some core training on my off days.

I take 60 grains of thyroide meds each morning for slightly underactive thyroid function and recently upped that to 90 grains (since seeing my Nov. 29, 2007 blood results). The type I take has both T4 & T3 components. It is called “Thyroide” and sold in Montreal where I reside (equivalent to "Armour in U.S.). I also take a multi-vitamin, 6 caps of omega-3 (2 g EPA & 1.4 g DHA), 5000 I.U. vitamin D, 50 mg DHEA, 50 mg Pregnenolone per day.

Any recommendations would be appreciated. If you require more details from me - just ask.[/quote]

Did you add the DHEA since you had your first bloodtest? My first guess would be that the DHEA is causing some suppression of endogenous test production.

[quote]Botch wrote:
Black Cat wrote:

I take 60 grains of thyroide meds each morning for slightly underactive thyroid function and recently upped that to 90 grains (since seeing my Nov. 29, 2007 blood results). The type I take has both T4 & T3 components. It is called “Thyroide” and sold in Montreal where I reside (equivalent to "Armour in U.S.). I also take a multi-vitamin, 6 caps of omega-3 (2 g EPA & 1.4 g DHA), 5000 I.U. vitamin D, 50 mg DHEA, 50 mg Pregnenolone per day.

Any recommendations would be appreciated. If you require more details from me - just ask.

Did you add the DHEA since you had your first bloodtest? My first guess would be that the DHEA is causing some suppression of endogenous test production.[/quote]

Botch,

Thanks for the feedback. No, I have been using the same dosage of DHEA for several years now. It did not prevent good results when I started the AD. It is also a precursor to testosterone and theoretically should assist is its production as opposed to suppressing it.

Repost- accidentaly started a new thread, I meant for it to be an AD ?

Can someone give me some sample menu that is getting at least 300 grams of protein in per day? I am having a hard time getting that much in unless I consume huge amounts of protein powder, and I get better results with eating more whole foods. I can get my 2 servings of fruit and 6 - 8 servings of vegtables in per day, but I am running out of ideas for protein source.

Fat is easy, I just make up my % with olive oil and fish oil. I am getting tired of huge amounts of ground beef and chicken breasts, I can make each several different ways, but man, there has to be some other things to eat. Here is a sample day for me @ 275 lbs.

3 eggs fried in olive oil, 4 sausage links, 3/4 cup musk melon

shake - 2 scoops protein powder, olive oil, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1/4 cups mixed berries

1/2 lb ground beef, 1 cup broccoli, 1 cup cauliflower

1.5 oz almonds, 1 oz cheese

2 chicken breasts, smoothered in mushrooms and onions, slice of cheese, 1.5 cups spinach, 1.5 cups romaine, olive oil

2 scoops protein powder mixed with 1/2 cup cottage cheese

Any Help???

[quote]Can someone give me some sample menu that is getting at least 300 grams of protein in per day? I am having a hard time getting that much in unless I consume huge amounts of protein powder, and I get better results with eating more whole foods. I can get my 2 servings of fruit and 6 - 8 servings of vegtables in per day, but I am running out of ideas for protein source.

Fat is easy, I just make up my % with olive oil and fish oil. I am getting tired of huge amounts of ground beef and chicken breasts, I can make each several different ways, but man, there has to be some other things to eat. Here is a sample day for me @ 275 lbs.

3 eggs fried in olive oil, 4 sausage links, 3/4 cup musk melon

shake - 2 scoops protein powder, olive oil, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1/4 cups mixed berries

1/2 lb ground beef, 1 cup broccoli, 1 cup cauliflower

1.5 oz almonds, 1 oz cheese

2 chicken breasts, smoothered in mushrooms and onions, slice of cheese, 1.5 cups spinach, 1.5 cups romaine, olive oil

2 scoops protein powder mixed with 1/2 cup cottage cheese

Any Help???

[/quote]

fish, shrimp, various seafood, pork, chicken wings/drumsticks with the skin, other cuts of red meat, turkey. shrimp dipped in melted butter is pretty tasty, or splashed with some hot sauce. treating yourself to a nicer cut of meat/steak once in a while can help refresh your interest in red meat too.

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
This thread just does not stand still!

A few pages back, Chris mentioned pure cocoa…low on carbs, big on flavor.

Another tasty treat w/cocoa:
A tbsp or so in your cottage cheese at night w/ some natty peanut butter if you must -although I prefer a handful of almonds in mine. Add a pkt of Splenda/Aspartame to taste.

Pretty girls just love it -and they don’t even know it’s good for 'em.

peace
:wink: [/quote]

YEAH!

that’s why cocoa is called “the food of the gods” in some crazy foreign language.

The reason this thread rocks is cause there are no douche bags on here and we get along civily. Hopefully ‘jacked diesel’ does not decide to start the diet.

-chris

Avocado: Thanks brother for the support and information. I bought the book, good stuff. I know you mentioned that I could do a cleaner version of the AD diet, will this have a better impact on my results the book does not mention anything about this, also are there times throughout the day that I should avoid fats, for example before bed or post workout? Any thoughts on coconut oil. Thanks

[quote]Black Cat wrote:
I haven’t checked in for a while. I have been on the AD since July 23rd 2007 (4 1/2 months). I was doing great by August 15th confirmed by my improved morale, energy, libido, and radically increased testosterone level (Total Testosterone: 32.6 nmol/L on a ref range of 7.37 - 23.08 and more importantly Free Testosterone 394 pmol/L on a ref range of 163 - 508). Having my free testosterone in the “sweet” zone of the ref range was a huge increase for me since I have been struggling with a free testosterone level below the ref range or slightly above for several years now. Needless to say I was ecstatic. I felt great for the whole summer as a matter of fact, but started flagging as the fall hit. By then decreases in my morale, libido, and energy indicated to me that my hormonal levels were starting to drop once again. This was finally confirmed in a blood analysis done on Nov. 29, 2007. My Cholesterol numbers are still very good although slightly higher LDL than my August analysis. Triglycerides still flagged low (a good thing). Total testosterone down to 18.9 on ref range of 7.37 - 23.06 and more importantly free testosterone only 207 on 163 - 508 ref range. For those of you proficient in hormonal levels, the main factor limiting the amount of total testosterone converting to free testosterone in my case is a very stubborn elevated SHBG (Sexual Hormone Binding Globulin) level ==> 81.2 on a ref range of 10.5 - 50.4.

SHBG steals valuable testosterone in the conversion process. The other possible culprit is estrogen, but mine has always been very low so this is not a factor in my case. Too bad in a way since estrogen is really easy to control as opposed to SHBG which science has not yet found an effective way to reduce. As you may have noticed from the numbers I quoted, the only way for me to achieve a “sweet zone” free testosterone level is to be over the high end of the ref range in total testosterone due to the SHBG factor in my case. Also thyroide free T3 down from 6.1 to 3.9 on ref range of 2.8 - 7.1. It seems my metabolism has slowed down to a crawl.

Maybe some of you can help me determine the trigger for this decline. The only changes to my diet have been a reduction of fat intake from 60+% to more like 50% in the form of a little reduced olive oil and no more cheese (except a tablespoon of grated parmigiana mixed in with my broccoli. I also recently reduced to 1 clean carb day per week (was getting a spare tire).

Carb reload

2 bowls of oatmeal with 2% milk & lots of berries, 2 large plates of whole wheat spagettini, and a large sweet potato.

My typical low-carb day is:

Breakfast

4 scrambled eggs (pan coated with 1 tablespoon butter) with 1 heaping tablespoon of ground flaxseed, seasonings, & a heaping tablespoon dollop of natural almond butter.

Morning Snack

1 handful of raw almonds (14 medium size)

Lunch

8 ounces of beef with 2 salads (tabouli or artichoke salad and a romain lettuce based salad). Some carbs in the form of tomatoes in tabouli and slivers of red, yellow, orange peppers in the romaine based salad. This is a meal from a Lebanese restaurant. The vinaigrettes are oil and vinegar based and not goopy.

Afternoon snack

another handful of almonds (14 medium sized)

PWO

10 oz water, 1 scoop whey ISO (3 CHO), 1 packet Stevia, a little 0 CHO jello powder, 1 tsp creatine.

Dinner

10 oz meat in the form of chicken, or salmon, or tuna, or seasoned lean ground beef (drained of fat after cooking), with two heads of steamed broccoli (large serving), 1 heaping tablespoon ground flaxseed, 1 tbsp parmigiana, a small handful of raw pistacios (10-12), and seasonings.

Other than that I have 3 coffees per day with Stevia and a little heavy cream (35% = 0 CHO). I do chew sugarless gum after my coffee 3 times per day and I know there are several CHO in each stick.

Evening snack

1 handfull of walnuts (approx 10 halves)

My training was CW high frequency for the last 2+ months and now I have started a lighter Bill Starr 5 x 5 and put back some cardio in the form of skipping along with some core training on my off days.

I take 60 grains of thyroide meds each morning for slightly underactive thyroid function and recently upped that to 90 grains (since seeing my Nov. 29, 2007 blood results). The type I take has both T4 & T3 components. It is called “Thyroide” and sold in Montreal where I reside (equivalent to "Armour in U.S.). I also take a multi-vitamin, 6 caps of omega-3 (2 g EPA & 1.4 g DHA), 5000 I.U. vitamin D, 50 mg DHEA, 50 mg Pregnenolone per day.

Any recommendations would be appreciated. If you require more details from me - just ask.[/quote]

When you started the AD, was it the only change to your lifestyle that you made at the time? If so, your hormone levels improved due to diet alone. And then, a few months later your hormone levels subsided while you were maintaining the same nutritional and exercise regime?

This is how I understood you. You need to look back and make sure that you made no other subtle changes in your life, for one. How old are you? How often do you get your blood tested? Any hormone therapy other than you listed, at any time?

[quote]FFB WannaB wrote:
Repost- accidentaly started a new thread, I meant for it to be an AD ?

Can someone give me some sample menu that is getting at least 300 grams of protein in per day? I am having a hard time getting that much in unless I consume huge amounts of protein powder, and I get better results with eating more whole foods. I can get my 2 servings of fruit and 6 - 8 servings of vegtables in per day, but I am running out of ideas for protein source.

Fat is easy, I just make up my % with olive oil and fish oil. I am getting tired of huge amounts of ground beef and chicken breasts, I can make each several different ways, but man, there has to be some other things to eat. Here is a sample day for me @ 275 lbs.

3 eggs fried in olive oil, 4 sausage links, 3/4 cup musk melon

shake - 2 scoops protein powder, olive oil, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1/4 cups mixed berries

1/2 lb ground beef, 1 cup broccoli, 1 cup cauliflower

1.5 oz almonds, 1 oz cheese

2 chicken breasts, smoothered in mushrooms and onions, slice of cheese, 1.5 cups spinach, 1.5 cups romaine, olive oil

2 scoops protein powder mixed with 1/2 cup cottage cheese

Any Help???

[/quote]

It’s not a menu/plan…but this is pretty avg for me.
This is from my Fitday record.

Food Name Serving Size Cals Fat Carb Prot
ISOPure Protein serving 210 1 0 50
Heavy Cream 1 fl oz 120 12 0 0
FlaxseedMeal serving 60 5 4 3
Olive oil tablespoon 119 14 0 0
Egg hardboiled 12 853 58 6 69
Chicken breast, no skin 3 354 6 0 75
Mozzarella 4 oz 317 19 4 31
Beef, choice 4 oz 288 13 0 50
Broccoli, raw 1 lb 62 1 12 7
Beef, choice 1 lb 914 40 0 159
Chesse, hard, cheddar 6 oz 720 60 0 36
Metabolic Drive 2 serv 228 3 6 44
Olive oil 1 tbsp 119 14 0 0
Heavy Cream 2 oz 240 24 0 0
FlaxseedMeal serving 60 5 4 3
Totals 4474 265 36 527

Keep in mind, ‘variety is the spice of life,’ as they say.
I like to rotate foods quite a bit…but the macros stay about the same.

peace

Whoa…now that’s downright ugly.

Believe it or not …that was much prettier when I put it together.

No matter. The basic point is this: at a little over 4400 kcals a day I’m getting in over 500gr of protein and 200gr of fats.

You can do it…really you can. But ya gotta eat!

:wink:

peace

Hey guys, felt like it’s about time I got into posting in this thread.

I’ve been on the Anabolic Diet for just over 6 weeks now and I’ve never felt better. My refeeds have been 100% clean, boring I know, but I feel what’s held me back in the past has been overdoing it on “cheat days”.

So far the results have been great. Every time I see my friends they say how “ripped” I am getting. Seeing as how I’ve been a big dude my entire life, it’s definitley something different. I can’t wait to see what kind of results I get at 3-6 months.

Sifuinkorea,

Your understanding is correct. I did not change any other aspect of hormonal treatment. The only changes I made were to reduce my fat intake a little to about 50% in the form of less olive oil and less cheese to combat extra flab around the midsection. I get my blood tested every 3 months or so. I am 46 years old.

Thanks for brainstorming.

Hey guys!

Just thought I’d post and say that after looking at Pauli D’s diet for one day, I thought I’d look up and see the stats for egg whites and whole eggs.

I eat a lot of eggs and on the carton it says each egg has 1g, so if this is how it is, that’ll put me close to my max of carbs for the day, which sucks.

I went to:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

By the way, that website is great to look up food and see how much protein, fats, carbs, vitmains, etc., is in it.

I found out that egg whites only have .24g of carbs and a whole egg has .56g of carbs. Yes, this seems like nitpicking, but I like to have close to 20 eggs a day and probably 4 yolks, so if I eat 20 egg whites, I’m looking at about 5g of carbs compared to the 20 I thought I was taking in.

[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Hey guys!

Just thought I’d post and say that after looking at Pauli D’s diet for one day, I thought I’d look up and see the stats for egg whites and whole eggs.

I eat a lot of eggs and on the carton it says each egg has 1g, so if this is how it is, that’ll put me close to my max of carbs for the day, which sucks.

I went to:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

By the way, that website is great to look up food and see how much protein, fats, carbs, vitmains, etc., is in it.

I found out that egg whites only have .24g of carbs and a whole egg has .56g of carbs. Yes, this seems like nitpicking, but I like to have close to 20 eggs a day and probably 4 yolks, so if I eat 20 egg whites, I’m looking at about 5g of carbs compared to the 20 I thought I was taking in.

[/quote]

You’re also losing the most nutritious/beneficial part of the egg.

Pauli D

12 eggs, 3 chicken breasts a pound + beef, in one day???

I eat almost nothing compared to you, how do you find time (and $$$)to eat so much? I can stay full on 2200 to 2700 cal per day on this diet. I don’t think I could burn off all those cals if I trained 2 times per day. Amazing.
The eggs are a good idea, I never thought about sneaking those throughout the day. Much easier than sneaking chicken breasts at work! Thanks

At a little under 275 lbs. and 21% bodyfat, am I killing my metabolizm by eating 10 cal per lb. per day? It worked for the first 60 + lbs. I lost but I have stopped loosing fat at this point, no changes in measurements or scale. I keep blaming being sick every other week this winter, but maybe it is my diet? Or my crappy training schedule while sick!