My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]danchubb wrote:
He probably just can’t read - but don’t let on you know.[/quote]

Yeah, you are probably right! LOL!

man7553…what does that tell you about this guy? “he was built enough @ the age of 16 to have people asking his advice”…show’s you that he has managed to accomplish pretty little in his years of being a “master trainer”. Seems like he hasn’t been able to do much with this amazing set of genes he was blessed with. I know what I looked like @ age 16. FAT! but anyway…if the guy knows his stuff about training that’s great. but tell this character to get his head out of his ass and atleast LISTEN to what the A.D. is, he doesn’t have to approve.

Can I start this with below maintenance calories?

What’s up guys. This is my 10th day on the AD. It’s going well so far. Easy to stick to, no cravings, feeling good. I may have had a mild crash on day 3 but it could’ve been due to the fact that I started this diet while I was getting over a cold. I am 6’6" 212 lbs. after the four lb loss I’ve had so far from the AD. I’ve spent a great deal of these last 10 days working my way through this thread and it’s been extremely helpful. 63 pages down, probably another 250 or more to go.

I’ve got a question and would like to hear your ideas. I was planning on doing the whole 12 day induction which would fall on Monday and Tuesday. Problem is that I have my review and test for my real estate license on those days and while I know the stuff really well, I don’t want to be on the verge of a coma during the test. Plus it will be hard to find time to get enough food in during those two days. I was thinking that I could start do my first carb load this weekend (10 day induction) then go 7 days Pro/Fat before my next load.

So I guess there are really two questions here. a) would the load make me too tired to successfully take an important test, and b) if I went with the 10 day induction followed by a 7 day Pro/fat week, would I still be okay?

[quote]Squash85 wrote:
Can I start this with below maintenance calories? [/quote]

That’s what I did (thouhg it’s not recommended). The important thing is that you’re switching your body from using carbs as your source of fuel to fat, so just make sure your macros are right.

[quote]Whey Man wrote:

That’s what I did (thouhg it’s not recommended). The important thing is that you’re switching your body from using carbs as your source of fuel to fat, so just make sure your macros are right.

[/quote]

OK, so on

weekdays: <30g carbs, all p/f meals, at least 1g/lb protein and fat should make up like 40-60% macronutrients?

weekends: excess carb loading, reduce protein and minimal fat? what should the macronutrient ratios be exactly on weekends?

Sorry, I know I should do more reading up but this thread is so huge.

After reading many pages of this thread, I decided to do the diet. I had a PDF of the AD book from years ago.

I’m feeling a little tired, but what’s amazing already is I am sweating, feeling quite warm.

Also, I’m not sure I’ll make it to 3400 calories this first day? I’d have to be eating rather constantly.

Anyway, it’s worked for so many others, I’m going to give it a try.

Thanks to all who have posted their experiences here.

First carb-up this upcoming weekend. Question:

I intend on doing all day saturday clean carbed (potatoes, yams, oats, whole wheat pastas etc…), and then oatmeal with berries for breakfast on sunday…then going back to the midweek high fat/protein low carb. My question is that I have a Full Body workout, Waterbury style TBT coming up on Sunday.

Normally I Lift M-W-F…but I am switching to every other day, weekends included. This way I can get another workout per week, while maintaining my rest every other.

How does the carb up effect my gym session? Good idea to lift on Sunday?

[quote]plutusplutus wrote:
First carb-up this upcoming weekend. Question:

I intend on doing all day saturday clean carbed (potatoes, yams, oats, whole wheat pastas etc…), and then oatmeal with berries for breakfast on sunday…then going back to the midweek high fat/protein low carb. My question is that I have a Full Body workout, Waterbury style TBT coming up on Sunday.

Normally I Lift M-W-F…but I am switching to every other day, weekends included. This way I can get another workout per week, while maintaining my rest every other.

How does the carb up effect my gym session? Good idea to lift on Sunday?[/quote]

You should be fine. Just train in the morning before you pass out, diabetic coma style.

For Waterbury TBT I like to train 2 days on 1 off 2 on 2 off or 5 days on weekends off.

-chris

[quote]walkw33 wrote:
What’s up guys. This is my 10th day on the AD. It’s going well so far. Easy to stick to, no cravings, feeling good. I may have had a mild crash on day 3 but it could’ve been due to the fact that I started this diet while I was getting over a cold. I am 6’6" 212 lbs. after the four lb loss I’ve had so far from the AD. I’ve spent a great deal of these last 10 days working my way through this thread and it’s been extremely helpful. 63 pages down, probably another 250 or more to go.

I’ve got a question and would like to hear your ideas. I was planning on doing the whole 12 day induction which would fall on Monday and Tuesday. Problem is that I have my review and test for my real estate license on those days and while I know the stuff really well, I don’t want to be on the verge of a coma during the test. Plus it will be hard to find time to get enough food in during those two days. I was thinking that I could start do my first carb load this weekend (10 day induction) then go 7 days Pro/Fat before my next load.

So I guess there are really two questions here. a) would the load make me too tired to successfully take an important test, and b) if I went with the 10 day induction followed by a 7 day Pro/fat week, would I still be okay?[/quote]

Don’t do a 10 day induction. WHy not make it a 14 day induction then? Over 14 days is fine.

Ohh well Sunday the gameplan is a carb’d up breakfast (Oatmeal with berries etc…), then to the Gym, pwo I go back to the High Fat High Protein.

So its a shortened carb up. You think I’ll feel the “carb coma”? Considering the workout day (sunday), I’ll only have the oats and thats it in terms of carbs.

Does anyone know what the deal is with this Dreamfield pasta?

http://www.dreamfieldsfoods.com/low-carb.html

It says it has only 5g of digestible carbs per serving, but the nutritional facts lists 42g carbs with 5g of fiber. The link above says something about how they did clinical tests to measure blood sugar after consumption, and found that only 5g of the carbs were actually digested, or something like that.

Is this stuff cool on this diet?

Hi everyone,
I’ve been doing the AD for 5 weeks, and would like some feedback on my progress.
I started at 77kg, ~ 7%bf.
Today, I am at 82kg, ~9%bf.
I’ve been undereating for quite a long time (I was a quite a big kid… so I am scared of being a FFB again…)

I do 3 Total Body Workout (all compound movements) a week (I see improvements with most of my lifts, which is good=)), with 2 Tabata sessions in between.
Through out these 5 weeks, my CHO intake has been below 30g with the exception of my 2 carb ups of course.

My question is… am I gaining weight slightly too fast? Or am I on track?
I do want to get bigger, but I just don’t want the fat to pile on like crazy…
Oh btw, I am 21. 6’0’’ ( I know I am relatively small compared to many people here… that’s why I am turning to AD to gain some decent mass!)
Thanks in advance!

DH, you are awesome bro, I have read alot of your posts and would really appreciate your help I am in desperate need of help and want to finally get this formula right and not waste anymore time. I am commited to being disciplined and will work very hard as I have been. I have been working out for about 5 years straight and do 5 hiit sessions of about 30 minutes after 3 sets of heavy whole body circuit training sessions.

My diet has been mainly high protein (2,500 calories lean meats and whey/cassein protein shakes, green veggies, low fat and low carb. I take 9 fish oils a day, multi-vitamin, tribulis, NO-2 powder form post workout and about 20 grams of fiber a day. I weigh about 215lbs and height is 5’11. I look vascular, however I cannot get my dam six pack. Lately I started to eat 2 servings of fruit a day and added 60 grams of dextrose to my post workout shakes so I dont feel flat, thats another problem, dont wanna feel flat.

If I start increasing my fats will this do the trick?I have a hard time understanding the ratio of fats, plus when to take them. Is coconut oil something I can do. I also dont feel comfortable eating so much cheese for fat because of all of the saturated fat, plus I am so used to eating clean. If I do the anabolic diet, may I still do the carbs for the post workout since carbs are immediately absorbed after a workout?

I also recently started useing muscle milk due to the high fat content, is this ok, eventhough it has 17 grams of carbs per serving and 18 grams of fats, eight of it being from saturated fats. Also with the carb reload on weekends, how long will these carbs provide a pump for my muscles before they go flat before the next reload sessions. Please help a brother out, I really want to get this down to a turn key system. Thanks eveyone and sorry for the long post.

I just ate 3 cups of oats!!! Arghhhh I love it.
Carb-uppppppppptime.

[quote]labikes wrote:
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I honestly can’t be bothered reading the whole thing since you said ‘low fat low carb’ or something like that. If you haven’t read the eBook please do so. It’s NOT HEALTHY or the ANABOLIC DIET to do that.

Further, 17g of carbs is around 60% of your daily allowance. So, it’s up to you whether it’s worth it in one shake.

If I’m misinterpreting please clarify.

Second day on it. Looks like I lost 2 pounds overnight, probably water. Only just begun, but so far I feel calmer than usual.

so ive hit a standstill with my weight (im trying to gain). for the last 3 or 4 weeks ive been at exactly 196, never a pound off. im not limiting my calories at all so i doubt im eating the exact same amount every day let alone every week which is why its so weird to me that ive been at the exact same weight. and just to make it clear, ive been weighing myself on the same day (fridays).

i havent been getting BF measurements so its hard to be 100% of whats happening but i really think losing Xpounds of fat and replacing it with exactly the same amount of muscle each week is BS.

so any insight of whats going on or what i can do would be helpful…i keep hearing go big on the carb ups and im tryin man haha.
…either way the semester is almost up and then ill have an entire month to devote 90% of my week to eating.

Read the ebook called “anabolic solution/diet” which ever you find.

You can eat a ‘clean’ AD, I do. I get my fats from fish, eggs, olive oil, nuts and shit like that. I’m allergic to cheese/milk. So yeah just eat high fat / low CHO on weekdays and then carb up on weekends.

Ditch your sub-optimal PWO shake for just whey iso or hydrosilate with some olive oil. Also, switch to liqid fishoil FGS.

So yeha on weekdays your only CHO is from veggies and nuts etc. no sugar. some saturated fats are good for you. You feel ‘flat’ because your body has no energy source other than protein. you need to be eating either fat or CHO for energy. So you feel flat because you are only giving your body protein for fuel. Protein without another macro for fuel will lead your body to digest muscle tissue for fuel. So stop not eating fat/CHO.

read the book

-chris

[quote]labikes wrote:
DH, you are awesome bro, I have read alot of your posts and would really appreciate your help I am in desperate need of help and want to finally get this formula right and not waste anymore time. I am commited to being disciplined and will work very hard as I have been. I have been working out for about 5 years straight and do 5 hiit sessions of about 30 minutes after 3 sets of heavy whole body circuit training sessions.

My diet has been mainly high protein (2,500 calories lean meats and whey/cassein protein shakes, green veggies, low fat and low carb. I take 9 fish oils a day, multi-vitamin, tribulis, NO-2 powder form post workout and about 20 grams of fiber a day. I weigh about 215lbs and height is 5’11. I look vascular, however I cannot get my dam six pack. Lately I started to eat 2 servings of fruit a day and added 60 grams of dextrose to my post workout shakes so I dont feel flat, thats another problem, dont wanna feel flat.

If I start increasing my fats will this do the trick?I have a hard time understanding the ratio of fats, plus when to take them. Is coconut oil something I can do. I also dont feel comfortable eating so much cheese for fat because of all of the saturated fat, plus I am so used to eating clean. If I do the anabolic diet, may I still do the carbs for the post workout since carbs are immediately absorbed after a workout?

I also recently started useing muscle milk due to the high fat content, is this ok, eventhough it has 17 grams of carbs per serving and 18 grams of fats, eight of it being from saturated fats. Also with the carb reload on weekends, how long will these carbs provide a pump for my muscles before they go flat before the next reload sessions. Please help a brother out, I really want to get this down to a turn key system. Thanks eveyone and sorry for the long post.[/quote]

[quote]Keevon wrote:
Does anyone know what the deal is with this Dreamfield pasta?

http://www.dreamfieldsfoods.com/low-carb.html

It says it has only 5g of digestible carbs per serving, but the nutritional facts lists 42g carbs with 5g of fiber. The link above says something about how they did clinical tests to measure blood sugar after consumption, and found that only 5g of the carbs were actually digested, or something like that.

Is this stuff cool on this diet?[/quote]

Yeah it sounds like that stuff was made…

IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!

j/k

But yeah, it’s garbage. They are basically tricking fat fucks into thinking that eating pasta will make them “thin.” Same logic as “carb-blockers” and other shit like that. Also it likely contains a piss-load of sugar alchohols and soy protein iso. You want fat metabolizing pathways to be triggered during the week so that ou get the “anabolic response” from your CHO up. Their claim to blood sugar levels is clearly fresh horse poopy to anyone who knows how they would go about measuring that. Besides who fuckin cares about pasta on weekdays. Have that shit on weekends if you really can’t not live without it.

Eating things like pasta no matter how many CHO make it to the bloodstream (notwithstanding how hard it would be to measure that accurately) turn your perfectly good AD into some half-ass zone diet.

So unless you want to end up in…

A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!

stay away from ‘frankenfoods’ and other type of non-meat, non-veggie douchbaggery.

-chris