My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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[quote]Black Cat wrote:
First Post. I’ve been ADing for two months and a bit. I have only positive feedback. Energy level, morale, training intensity have all improved markedly. I had two main goals which led me to adopt this lifestyle.

Firstly, I wanted to up my free testosterone level (and reap all the positive effects of that) which had been flagged low on blood tests consistently for the last couple of years. Secondly, I wanted to add lean mass to my ectomorph, small boned frame.

On the first count I tested after only 6 weeks (August 15, 2007) on the AD and was amazed to see my total testosterone flagged high and my free testosterone in the upper 3rd quadrant of the ref range. My thyroid numbers also improved and my fasting insulin & glucose numbers were all great. My triglycerides were actually flagged low and my doctor said that it is rare that such high HDL and low LDL numbers cross his desk. Total Cholesterol / HDL great at 1.5 also.

I cannot attribute my cardio related results solely to the AD as my cardio numbers have always been good. My c-reactive protein and homocysteine results were terrific also. I can also say my libido (which had been flagging) is much improved, adding a certain zest that had been missing for a while.

On the second count (LBM gains), it is going slow but I have gained several pounds with no increase in fat. I love the pump I feel after a carb load and I equally enjoy the (more frequent) days when my strength, stamina, and focus in the gym give me a rush. I can only hope that as the duration of this way of eating lengthens, that these great improvements will ratchet up even further.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all the great posters in this thread. DH, Il Cazzo, Tiribulus, Avacado, Pauli D, Sasha, All Natural, Sifuinkorea, Ovalpline, OMC, Bizmark, bkmackey9288, Alphadragon, josh.shafer to name only a few. Your knowledge and generosity constantly amazes me.[/quote]

It’s good to see another example of how this diet can positively affect blood work. Like you, I got a basic blood test done 6 weeks after starting the AD. My cholesterol increased only 2 points from last year, to 144, plus my HDL and LDL levels were all great. Plus, like you, my triglycerides PLUMMETED, to 37 from 111. I’d be interested in getting more blood work done in a few months to check on any changes. Good luck on your progress.

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[quote]i0wny0uall wrote:
Black Cat wrote:
First Post. I’ve been ADing for two months and a bit. I have only positive feedback. Energy level, morale, training intensity have all improved markedly. I had two main goals which led me to adopt this lifestyle.

Firstly, I wanted to up my free testosterone level (and reap all the positive effects of that) which had been flagged low on blood tests consistently for the last couple of years. Secondly, I wanted to add lean mass to my ectomorph, small boned frame.

On the first count I tested after only 6 weeks (August 15, 2007) on the AD and was amazed to see my total testosterone flagged high and my free testosterone in the upper 3rd quadrant of the ref range. My thyroid numbers also improved and my fasting insulin & glucose numbers were all great. My triglycerides were actually flagged low and my doctor said that it is rare that such high HDL and low LDL numbers cross his desk. Total Cholesterol / HDL great at 1.5 also.

I cannot attribute my cardio related results solely to the AD as my cardio numbers have always been good. My c-reactive protein and homocysteine results were terrific also. I can also say my libido (which had been flagging) is much improved, adding a certain zest that had been missing for a while.

On the second count (LBM gains), it is going slow but I have gained several pounds with no increase in fat. I love the pump I feel after a carb load and I equally enjoy the (more frequent) days when my strength, stamina, and focus in the gym give me a rush. I can only hope that as the duration of this way of eating lengthens, that these great improvements will ratchet up even further.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all the great posters in this thread. DH, Il Cazzo, Tiribulus, Avacado, Pauli D, Sasha, All Natural, Sifuinkorea, Ovalpline, OMC, Bizmark, bkmackey9288, Alphadragon, josh.shafer to name only a few. Your knowledge and generosity constantly amazes me.

It’s good to see another example of how this diet can positively affect blood work. Like you, I got a basic blood test done 6 weeks after starting the AD. My cholesterol increased only 2 points from last year, to 144, plus my HDL and LDL levels were all great. Plus, like you, my triglycerides PLUMMETED, to 37 from 111. I’d be interested in getting more blood work done in a few months to check on any changes. Good luck on your progress.

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How about blood pressure measures? any improvements or worsening measures?

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[quote]i0wny0uall wrote:
Black Cat wrote:
First Post. I’ve been ADing for two months and a bit. I have only positive feedback. Energy level, morale, training intensity have all improved markedly. I had two main goals which led me to adopt this lifestyle.

Firstly, I wanted to up my free testosterone level (and reap all the positive effects of that) which had been flagged low on blood tests consistently for the last couple of years. Secondly, I wanted to add lean mass to my ectomorph, small boned frame.

On the first count I tested after only 6 weeks (August 15, 2007) on the AD and was amazed to see my total testosterone flagged high and my free testosterone in the upper 3rd quadrant of the ref range. My thyroid numbers also improved and my fasting insulin & glucose numbers were all great. My triglycerides were actually flagged low and my doctor said that it is rare that such high HDL and low LDL numbers cross his desk. Total Cholesterol / HDL great at 1.5 also.

I cannot attribute my cardio related results solely to the AD as my cardio numbers have always been good. My c-reactive protein and homocysteine results were terrific also. I can also say my libido (which had been flagging) is much improved, adding a certain zest that had been missing for a while.

On the second count (LBM gains), it is going slow but I have gained several pounds with no increase in fat. I love the pump I feel after a carb load and I equally enjoy the (more frequent) days when my strength, stamina, and focus in the gym give me a rush. I can only hope that as the duration of this way of eating lengthens, that these great improvements will ratchet up even further.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all the great posters in this thread. DH, Il Cazzo, Tiribulus, Avacado, Pauli D, Sasha, All Natural, Sifuinkorea, Ovalpline, OMC, Bizmark, bkmackey9288, Alphadragon, josh.shafer to name only a few. Your knowledge and generosity constantly amazes me.

It’s good to see another example of how this diet can positively affect blood work. Like you, I got a basic blood test done 6 weeks after starting the AD. My cholesterol increased only 2 points from last year, to 144, plus my HDL and LDL levels were all great. Plus, like you, my triglycerides PLUMMETED, to 37 from 111. I’d be interested in getting more blood work done in a few months to check on any changes. Good luck on your progress.

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i0wny0uall,

Thanks for the good wishes. I also will be getting regular blood & urine labs simply because it is a good health practice and lets us monitor our progress - cardio and hormonal level wise. Glad your experience has also been positive.

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[quote]toocul4u wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
Black Cat wrote:
First Post. I’ve been ADing for two months and a bit. I have only positive feedback. Energy level, morale, training intensity have all improved markedly. I had two main goals which led me to adopt this lifestyle.

Firstly, I wanted to up my free testosterone level (and reap all the positive effects of that) which had been flagged low on blood tests consistently for the last couple of years. Secondly, I wanted to add lean mass to my ectomorph, small boned frame.

On the first count I tested after only 6 weeks (August 15, 2007) on the AD and was amazed to see my total testosterone flagged high and my free testosterone in the upper 3rd quadrant of the ref range. My thyroid numbers also improved and my fasting insulin & glucose numbers were all great. My triglycerides were actually flagged low and my doctor said that it is rare that such high HDL and low LDL numbers cross his desk. Total Cholesterol / HDL great at 1.5 also.

I cannot attribute my cardio related results solely to the AD as my cardio numbers have always been good. My c-reactive protein and homocysteine results were terrific also. I can also say my libido (which had been flagging) is much improved, adding a certain zest that had been missing for a while.

On the second count (LBM gains), it is going slow but I have gained several pounds with no increase in fat. I love the pump I feel after a carb load and I equally enjoy the (more frequent) days when my strength, stamina, and focus in the gym give me a rush. I can only hope that as the duration of this way of eating lengthens, that these great improvements will ratchet up even further.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all the great posters in this thread. DH, Il Cazzo, Tiribulus, Avacado, Pauli D, Sasha, All Natural, Sifuinkorea, Ovalpline, OMC, Bizmark, bkmackey9288, Alphadragon, josh.shafer to name only a few. Your knowledge and generosity constantly amazes me.

It’s good to see another example of how this diet can positively affect blood work. Like you, I got a basic blood test done 6 weeks after starting the AD. My cholesterol increased only 2 points from last year, to 144, plus my HDL and LDL levels were all great. Plus, like you, my triglycerides PLUMMETED, to 37 from 111. I’d be interested in getting more blood work done in a few months to check on any changes. Good luck on your progress.

How about blood pressure measures? any improvements or worsening measures?

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toocul4u,

Good question. I don’t remember the exact blood pressure for the my August 2007 doctor visit. I was concerned because a couple of years back my blood pressure was starting to edge slightly high. This time (Aug. 2007) my doc said it was actually slightly low (around 60 / ???). I neglected to have the doc write it down. He did assure me that it was very good and certainly of no concern. I will check up on it and report back…

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A couple more observation I must add. Two contributors to this thread have stood out for their unique personalities. I did not mention raviraj in my prior post but his huge heart (read generosity and eagerness to help others), positive attitude, interesting livelihood and adventures in his country and around the globe combined with his speed typed, messed up posts and let us not forget his eventual expertise merit recognition.

Also, special mention must be made of Avacado’s (aka realpeanutbutter) hilarious (gut busting) sense of humor which often made me roar like a child probably causing concern to my neighbors. Avacado’s incisive points were always on the mark. Kudos boys!!

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My doctor’s assistant just got back to me with my August blood pressure ==> 110/70

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no problem brutha

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[quote]Black Cat wrote:
First Post. I’ve been ADing for two months and a bit. I have only positive feedback. Energy level, morale, training intensity have all improved markedly. I had two main goals which led me to adopt this lifestyle.

Firstly, I wanted to up my free testosterone level (and reap all the positive effects of that) which had been flagged low on blood tests consistently for the last couple of years. Secondly, I wanted to add lean mass to my ectomorph, small boned frame.

On the first count I tested after only 6 weeks (August 15, 2007) on the AD and was amazed to see my total testosterone flagged high and my free testosterone in the upper 3rd quadrant of the ref range. My thyroid numbers also improved and my fasting insulin & glucose numbers were all great. My triglycerides were actually flagged low and my doctor said that it is rare that such high HDL and low LDL numbers cross his desk. Total Cholesterol / HDL great at 1.5 also.

I cannot attribute my cardio related results solely to the AD as my cardio numbers have always been good. My c-reactive protein and homocysteine results were terrific also. I can also say my libido (which had been flagging) is much improved, adding a certain zest that had been missing for a while.

On the second count (LBM gains), it is going slow but I have gained several pounds with no increase in fat. I love the pump I feel after a carb load and I equally enjoy the (more frequent) days when my strength, stamina, and focus in the gym give me a rush. I can only hope that as the duration of this way of eating lengthens, that these great improvements will ratchet up even further.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all the great posters in this thread. DH, Il Cazzo, Tiribulus, Avacado, Pauli D, Sasha, All Natural, Sifuinkorea, Ovalpline, OMC, Bizmark, bkmackey9288, Alphadragon, josh.shafer to name only a few. Your knowledge and generosity constantly amazes me.[/quote]

no problem brutha

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I’ve been on the AD for about a 3 weeks now. I’ve lost 2 sizes on my belt. I’d say from about 14%bf to 11%bf. Energy levels are great. I’ve only had two problems so far. One is that I am not getting enough potassium, and was getting severe leg cramps for a couple days. Had to supplement with pills to get rid of that. The other problem is that I am feeling a lot less muscular. Maybe because of the glycogen depletion, maybe because I’m smaller from the fat loss. I think I need to up the cals.

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[quote]toocul4u wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
Black Cat wrote:
First Post. I’ve been ADing for two months and a bit. I have only positive feedback. Energy level, morale, training intensity have all improved markedly. I had two main goals which led me to adopt this lifestyle.

Firstly, I wanted to up my free testosterone level (and reap all the positive effects of that) which had been flagged low on blood tests consistently for the last couple of years. Secondly, I wanted to add lean mass to my ectomorph, small boned frame.

On the first count I tested after only 6 weeks (August 15, 2007) on the AD and was amazed to see my total testosterone flagged high and my free testosterone in the upper 3rd quadrant of the ref range. My thyroid numbers also improved and my fasting insulin & glucose numbers were all great. My triglycerides were actually flagged low and my doctor said that it is rare that such high HDL and low LDL numbers cross his desk. Total Cholesterol / HDL great at 1.5 also.

I cannot attribute my cardio related results solely to the AD as my cardio numbers have always been good. My c-reactive protein and homocysteine results were terrific also. I can also say my libido (which had been flagging) is much improved, adding a certain zest that had been missing for a while.

On the second count (LBM gains), it is going slow but I have gained several pounds with no increase in fat. I love the pump I feel after a carb load and I equally enjoy the (more frequent) days when my strength, stamina, and focus in the gym give me a rush. I can only hope that as the duration of this way of eating lengthens, that these great improvements will ratchet up even further.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all the great posters in this thread. DH, Il Cazzo, Tiribulus, Avacado, Pauli D, Sasha, All Natural, Sifuinkorea, Ovalpline, OMC, Bizmark, bkmackey9288, Alphadragon, josh.shafer to name only a few. Your knowledge and generosity constantly amazes me.

It’s good to see another example of how this diet can positively affect blood work. Like you, I got a basic blood test done 6 weeks after starting the AD. My cholesterol increased only 2 points from last year, to 144, plus my HDL and LDL levels were all great. Plus, like you, my triglycerides PLUMMETED, to 37 from 111. I’d be interested in getting more blood work done in a few months to check on any changes. Good luck on your progress.

How about blood pressure measures? any improvements or worsening measures?

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In regards to the blood pressure, mine stayed the same. It has always been “borderline high.” I attribute this to genetics more than anything. It’s always been this way, regardless of my diet.

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Hello all, I have a question. does the carbs that were in taking from source’s of fiber (i.e Brocilli, spinache, ect) count towards the “30 gram a day carb max”

Thanks in advance for the replys

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Oops. Please read “Avocado” each time I referred to “Avacado” in my last few posts.

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[quote]Black Cat wrote:
First Post. I’ve been ADing for two months and a bit. I have only positive feedback. Energy level, morale, training intensity have all improved markedly. I had two main goals which led me to adopt this lifestyle.

Firstly, I wanted to up my free testosterone level (and reap all the positive effects of that) which had been flagged low on blood tests consistently for the last couple of years. Secondly, I wanted to add lean mass to my ectomorph, small boned frame.

On the first count I tested after only 6 weeks (August 15, 2007) on the AD and was amazed to see my total testosterone flagged high and my free testosterone in the upper 3rd quadrant of the ref range. My thyroid numbers also improved and my fasting insulin & glucose numbers were all great. My triglycerides were actually flagged low and my doctor said that it is rare that such high HDL and low LDL numbers cross his desk. Total Cholesterol / HDL great at 1.5 also.

I cannot attribute my cardio related results solely to the AD as my cardio numbers have always been good. My c-reactive protein and homocysteine results were terrific also. I can also say my libido (which had been flagging) is much improved, adding a certain zest that had been missing for a while.

On the second count (LBM gains), it is going slow but I have gained several pounds with no increase in fat. I love the pump I feel after a carb load and I equally enjoy the (more frequent) days when my strength, stamina, and focus in the gym give me a rush. I can only hope that as the duration of this way of eating lengthens, that these great improvements will ratchet up even further.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all the great posters in this thread. DH, Il Cazzo, Tiribulus, Avacado, Pauli D, Sasha, All Natural, Sifuinkorea, Ovalpline, OMC, Bizmark, bkmackey9288, Alphadragon, josh.shafer to name only a few. Your knowledge and generosity constantly amazes me.[/quote]

Awwww…I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now. :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s posts like this that keeps me here and reading…and helping out when I can.

AD

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[quote]silv3rbull3t wrote:
Hello all, I have a question. does the carbs that were in taking from source’s of fiber (i.e Brocilli, spinache, ect) count towards the “30 gram a day carb max”

Thanks in advance for the replys[/quote]

Nope.

If you have not read them, I highly suggest you read the first 20 pages in this thread. Just about every question you can think of has been answered there.

AD

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[quote]Black Cat wrote:
A couple more observation I must add. Two contributors to this thread have stood out for their unique personalities. I did not mention raviraj in my prior post but his huge heart (read generosity and eagerness to help others), positive attitude, interesting livelihood and adventures in his country and around the globe combined with his speed typed, messed up posts and let us not forget his eventual expertise merit recognition.

Also, special mention must be made of Avacado’s (aka realpeanutbutter) hilarious (gut busting) sense of humor which often made me roar like a child probably causing concern to my neighbors. Avacado’s incisive points were always on the mark. Kudos boys!![/quote]

awww, props on an internet forum? wow, maybe there is hope for humanity yet. This makes me want to be nice on xbox live.

I only wish i could stop by this thread more often. In other news: chewing steak is GPP when you buy the econo cuts.

-chris

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I’m currently on my 4th day of the AD.
I was on a moderate/low carb diet before starting the AD, so I probably am adapting well. I even had a great workout before breakfast, with an empty stomach!

My question is: I noticed my bodyfat turned from a hard blubbery mass to a thinner oilier fat. I can feel my abs much easier, though it seems, because of it’s thinness, the fat kinda spread all over my stomach, making it even less ripped.

I came to the conclusion that I’m not retaining much water and fat cells “shrank” a bit from lost water. I’m correct? Is this an indication that the diet is working? Or I’m actually gaining fat in some way?

Thanks!

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alright so ive got a bit of a problem…well more like a gift and a curse. first, the gift:

due to the g-flux created from my workouts, especially the squatting and deadlifting, im eating massive amounts, anywhere from 4-6,000 calories a day

heres my breakfast for today: a dozen eggs scrambled mixed with light cream and cooked in butter, cottage cheese, unkown amount of peanuts atleast 3 servings though, and i was still fairly hungry afterwards.

ok so thats the good news, that im eating and growing, putting on muscle etc.

the bad news is ITS SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE, i know i can eat more eggs to try and compensate but i dont want to eat nothing but eggs so if anyone has any tips on cheap AD friendly foods please let me know.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
alright so ive got a bit of a problem…well more like a gift and a curse. first, the gift:

due to the g-flux created from my workouts, especially the squatting and deadlifting, im eating massive amounts, anywhere from 4-6,000 calories a day

heres my breakfast for today: a dozen eggs scrambled mixed with light cream and cooked in butter, cottage cheese, unkown amount of peanuts atleast 3 servings though, and i was still fairly hungry afterwards.

ok so thats the good news, that im eating and growing, putting on muscle etc.

the bad news is ITS SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE, i know i can eat more eggs to try and compensate but i dont want to eat nothing but eggs so if anyone has any tips on cheap AD friendly foods please let me know.[/quote]

You can always put EVOO on a lot of things (or cheese too) and do massive caloric increases.

Where do you shop for food? IS there a better place (buy in bulk and freeze it maybe?

AD

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i usually go to this butcher shop place that is supposed to have really good prices on meat compared to everywhere else. yeah im thinking ill just have to buy huge packages of ground beef and keep the luxuries down to a minimum, bacon, steaks, nice cheeses, etc.

sometimes i just think id be better off ditching the AD while im eating so much but then i think that itd be too tempting to eat garbage and im sure no matter how hard id try my sugar to keep it low my sugar intake would go up, causing all sorts of problems, plus all the water retention…nah. i guess as much as its costing, ill stick with the AD, i mean if im eating upwards of 5,000 calories a day and can still see my abs, its gotta be worth it.