My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Ok. Day 12 and I am down about 6 lbs total. I will start my carb up tomorrow. Planned macros are:

Calories 2670
Carbs 400 g
Protein 100 g
fat 74 g

current macros are:
calories 2196
Carbs <30
Protein 189.6
Fat 146.4

How does it look?

Malinda

Just curious, what has your calorie intake been during this month?

[quote]Jadar wrote:
Hello all. I have been on AD for 1 month now. My goal is/was to cut. I started at 176 and as of Friday was at 168.5. After my carb up this weekend I weighed in at 170 this morning.

I am quite excited about this. Intersting thing about this diet…my weight has slowly “waved” downward.

176 - 12days - 171 - carb up
175 - 5 days - 170 - carb up
173 - 5 days - 168.5 - carb up
170 today

It’s friggin beautiful. My strength has steadily went up and my weight is wavin downward. HOLY HELL. Whoda thunk?

This diet likes me. :slight_smile:
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Just want to make sure I got this right, so we don�??t count fiber towards our total carbs correct? Say I have 3 cups of spinach totaling 8g of carbs, but 6g is fiber, 6 - 8 = 2 so thats 2g’s of carbs towards my total carbs right?

Wondering because I’m on day 8 and Ive had no crash or anything, and Im hoping its not from the amount of carbs I’m eating, right now Im getting 44g of carbs total, but 22g are fiber, so really it’s only 22g of carbs by my logic, again is this correct, of have I been eating to much from the start?

[quote]Beastard wrote:
Just want to make sure I got this right, so we don�??t count fiber towards our total carbs correct? Say I have 3 cups of spinach totaling 8g of carbs, but 6g is fiber, 6 - 8 = 2 so thats 2g’s of carbs towards my total carbs right?

Wondering because I’m on day 8 and Ive had no crash or anything, and Im hoping its not from the amount of carbs I’m eating, right now Im getting 44g of carbs total, but 22g are fiber, so really it’s only 22g of carbs by my logic, again is this correct, of have I been eating to much from the start?[/quote]

You’re doing it right. A few people don’t crash and some take longer than others. Mine didn’t happen until the evening of day 8. My wife didn’t crash at all.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Beastard wrote:
Just want to make sure I got this right, so we don�??t count fiber towards our total carbs correct? Say I have 3 cups of spinach totaling 8g of carbs, but 6g is fiber, 6 - 8 = 2 so thats 2g’s of carbs towards my total carbs right?

Wondering because I’m on day 8 and Ive had no crash or anything, and Im hoping its not from the amount of carbs I’m eating, right now Im getting 44g of carbs total, but 22g are fiber, so really it’s only 22g of carbs by my logic, again is this correct, of have I been eating to much from the start?

You’re doing it right. A few people don’t crash and some take longer than others. Mine didn’t happen until the evening of day 8. My wife didn’t crash at all.[/quote]

It’s good to read this because I have not had a crash at all either. I am on day 11 and don’t plan to carb-up until friday and saturday.

Here is what my diet looks like everyday…
Breakfast= 5 eggs, celery, 2 tbsp peanut butter
Snack/PWO=1-2 scoops whey, 1/4 cup walnuts
Lunch= 8oz meat(chicken, turkey, salmon, or ground beef), 1 and half cup of broccoli, 1 tbsp olive oil
Dinner= 8oz meat, 3 cups spinach, 1 tbsp olive oil
Snack= 5 eggs, celery, 2 tbsp peanut butter

Comes out to be around 155g fat, 41g carbs-19g fiber=23g carbs, 240g protein

Everything seems okay to me??

Anyone else have their wife referring to this diet as “that fucking diet”?

[quote]Just want to make sure I got this right, so we don�??t count fiber towards our total carbs correct? Say I have 3 cups of spinach totaling 8g of carbs, but 6g is fiber, 6 - 8 = 2 so thats 2g’s of carbs towards my total carbs right?

Wondering because I’m on day 8 and Ive had no crash or anything, and Im hoping its not from the amount of carbs I’m eating, right now Im getting 44g of carbs total, but 22g are fiber, so really it’s only 22g of carbs by my logic, again is this correct, of have I been eating to much from the start?[/quote]

Yes, you’re correct…my current bagged spinach is 10g per serving with 5g fiber, so I count 5 carbs! Most natural peanut butters are about 6g with 2g fiber, so 4 carbs…see? You are correct!

A wonderful addition to the AD is flaxmeal/flaxseed, it has the healthy fat and ALL of the carbs in it are FIBER!

[quote]DMB1130 wrote:

Here is what my diet looks like everyday…
Breakfast= 5 eggs, celery, 2 tbsp peanut butter
Snack/PWO=1-2 scoops whey, 1/4 cup walnuts
Lunch= 8oz meat(chicken, turkey, salmon, or ground beef), 1 and half cup of broccoli, 1 tbsp olive oil
Dinner= 8oz meat, 3 cups spinach, 1 tbsp olive oil
Snack= 5 eggs, celery, 2 tbsp peanut butter

Comes out to be around 155g fat, 41g carbs-19g fiber=23g carbs, 240g protein

Everything seems okay to me??

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yes, that looks good! Just make sure your fats are 60% of your macros…so I would increase that to about 165g, it looks like you are eating 2500kcal?

This is a good snack, may sound odd, but it’s mostly peanut butter:

mix:
3 tbs PB
15g vanilla protein powder
cinnamon

dip celery in that! it’s actually really good! It’s mostly PB, but you get that extra protein in the meal with the powder

[quote]JDK wrote:
Anyone else have their wife referring to this diet as “that fucking diet”?[/quote]

Yes. And “I’m tired of always eating steak or chicken…I don’t want to wait until Saturday to have stuffed bell peppers.”

[quote]NE253 wrote:
JDK wrote:
Anyone else have their wife referring to this diet as “that fucking diet”?

Yes. And “I’m tired of always eating steak or chicken…I don’t want to wait until Saturday to have stuffed bell peppers.”

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So make yours without the rice :stuck_out_tongue:

She always cooks the beef & rice together, with the tomato sauce, in a pan. Then she fills the peppers, covers them with cheese, & bakes them.

Plus, I think if I was eating one sans rice, it wouldn’t be as awesome…still good, but no anything near how a complete one tastes.

I am on the last week of the v-diet right now, and i’ve lost 15 lbs. At the moment i am 249lbs and need to lose about another 25-30 lbs of fat. While on this diet i have noticed a big change in body composition, and an almost doubling of strength, but that is normal for a noob i guess.

Anyways i am thinking of trying this diet, but am leary of the 4400-3900(18x bodyweight-16x bodyweight)for the first 12 days on this diet. So on weekdays my calories would look like this?:

Fat Cals: 2640-2340
Carbs:30g max of net carbs 220-195 cals
Protein: 1530-1365

And on weekends(for 36hrs) like this?:
Fat cals: 1320-1170
carbs:2640-2340 and should use the 75/25 rule?
protein: 440-390

Obviously i would have to work up to that over at least two weeks coming from 1700-2000 cals a day. And then after the transition, or adaption phase whatever it’s called, i then need to go into the cutting phase like Chris did in the article, and shoot to loose 2 lbs a week, until i reach an acceptable level of body fat below 10 %.

And after reading through some of this enormous thread, and the articles, i assume only count the net carbs, from veggies like broccoli.

And obviously lift weights, but this is about the diet, i am thinking of continuing the current training program from the v-diet for a while because i am making gains, but adding some more intensive cardio because i need improvement on running times for pt tests.

I would appreciate any advice on the subject.

[quote]AgeRage wrote:
A wonderful addition to the AD is flaxmeal/flaxseed, it has the healthy fat and ALL of the carbs in it are FIBER!
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I’ve heard this suggested but haven’t seen this anywhere, though I haven’t really been looking hard for it, anyway when I was shopping last day there was a sale on Hulled Hemp Seeds by Mum’s Original, so I picked 2 bags up of it for 27$, before I open the stuff, is it the same thing?

The nutritional facts are a little foggy, says 1.5g of carbs but doesn’t list fiber, so I don’t know if this is all fiber or not. Heres the link to the product I got.

http://www.pyramishealth.com/site/1247212/product/1-20-005

[quote]Beastard wrote:
AgeRage wrote:
A wonderful addition to the AD is flaxmeal/flaxseed, it has the healthy fat and ALL of the carbs in it are FIBER!

I’ve heard this suggested but haven’t seen this anywhere, though I haven’t really been looking hard for it, anyway when I was shopping last day there was a sale on Hulled Hemp Seeds by Mum’s Original, so I picked 2 bags up of it for 27$, before I open the stuff, is it the same thing?

The nutritional facts are a little foggy, says 1.5g of carbs but doesn’t list fiber, so I don’t know if this is all fiber or not. Heres the link to the product I got.

http://www.pyramishealth.com/site/1247212/product/1-20-005[/quote]

It doesn’t note the fiber content? strange. Well I also found this on that site you posted:
http://www.pyramishealth.com/site/1247212/product/1-20-002

except I couldn’t view the label, maybe check that out? It looks like flax oil, though

This is what I use:
http://www.carbsmart.com/bobredmilfla.html

2 TBS has 4 carbs and 4 g. fiber, so it’s all fiber! Plus it has 4.5g fat

I wonder if you can buy that where you are? Or buy online. It’s good stuff!

If you can’t find the flaxseed meal, can you at least just buy WHOLE flaxseeds and grind them yourself? That is also a possibility

Hello , first i want to thank you for all the information you guys provide .I’m reading T-Nation 6 months . This is endless amount of information that helps to be healthy .

I’m 41 yo .I have been on AD for 4 month now. My goal is to cut to 15%. I started from cutting without maintenance , at 230 lb and 25% bf
I did carbs load for three months every 14 days (for 24 hours) as recommended by CT .
I can’t eat huge load of carbs .Maximum 300 g (oat,whole wheat pasta ) for 24 hours.
My strength has went up and my weight now is 220 lb with 22% bf .
my workout is :

Monday: Chest and back, heavy (decline /incline bench press,T-bar ,lat machine

Tuesday: Legs, heavy (front,back squats)

Wednesday: ABS,low back (deadlift)

Thursday: OFF

Friday: Arms (heavy) and shoulders

Saturday: Lactate-inducing workout

Sunday: OFF

I’m taking Ephedrine+Caffeine 2 times a day the first one before gym at 6.00 AM and second after 4 hours .I added L-Tyrosine (1500 mg) to EC .It helps to be focused during the day .

My food log is attached .
I’m eating same food every day .
Total :2400-2500 cal FAT -150 g ,PROTEIN :230 ,CARB:30
Last week I got my blood work done .
Doctor said that everything is fine.
Here the issue :last two months my body stopped to loose fat (weight) .
I need to tweak my diet somehow .
Any tip ,suggestion appreciated .Thanks for help .

Your food log is too small to read.

Sorry,my mistake .I’m attaching new screenshot .

Pre Workout at 6.00 AM -15 g Protein Whey +5 g BCAA +5g Creatin

Postworkout -35 g Protein +10 g Glutamine

9.00 AM Breakfast (Meal #1) :

Egg, whole, cooked, scrambled - 4 eggs
Pork bacon, cooked, pan-fried -3 slices
Butter - 1 tblsp
fish oil - 4 capsules

12.00 Meal #2 :
Beef, ground, 90% lean meat / 10% fat, raw [hamburger] -4 oz
Fish, tuna, light, canned in water, without salt, drained solids - 1/2 can (3 oz)

3 PM (Meal # 3) :
Beef, chuck, arm pot roast, separable lean and fat, trimmed to 0" fat - 6 oz
tomato -1/2
Olive oil -1 tbsp

6.00 PM Meal #4 :
Beef, ground, 90% lean meat / 10% fat, raw [hamburger] -4 oz
Fish, tuna, light, canned in water, without salt, drained solids - 1/2 can (3 oz)
fish oil - 3 capsules

8.00 PM Meal # 5 :

Olive oil -1 tbsp
Chicken, broilers or fryers, leg, meat and skin, cooked -2 leg
Cheese, brick - 2 oz
Apple -1
Thanks

A question for the vets, if I may.

Background:
I have been on the AD for several months now, and for the past few months I have been using it to cut. I have found from my food log that if I have the fat% in the 60’s or higher that my appetite becomes much, much stronger.

Question:
Is this a just reflection of my metabolism, or is it possible there is something wrong with my execution of the diet?

whats the deal with fats pre and post workout?

also, wi just want to make sure im doing this right: if i start the carb up on a saturday morning at 8a.m. am i ok to go back to high protein at say 7pm on sunday?

After reading numerous threads concerning the Anabolic Diet…where does Creatine come into play? I want to continue to take it after my work out, but want to use Dextrose as the carrier, but this would shoot me over the 30g mark?

Would I be better off using the T-Dawg diet?

Want to eat lots of protein, gain mass, lose fat, etc.

For me, I know that creatine works, but not want to take a measly few grams of dextrose with it.

Any help or experience greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Brian.

First Post. I’ve been ADing for two months and a bit. I have only positive feedback. Energy level, morale, training intensity have all improved markedly. I had two main goals which led me to adopt this lifestyle.

Firstly, I wanted to up my free testosterone level (and reap all the positive effects of that) which had been flagged low on blood tests consistently for the last couple of years. Secondly, I wanted to add lean mass to my ectomorph, small boned frame.

On the first count I tested after only 6 weeks (August 15, 2007) on the AD and was amazed to see my total testosterone flagged high and my free testosterone in the upper 3rd quadrant of the ref range. My thyroid numbers also improved and my fasting insulin & glucose numbers were all great. My triglycerides were actually flagged low and my doctor said that it is rare that such high HDL and low LDL numbers cross his desk. Total Cholesterol / HDL great at 1.5 also.

I cannot attribute my cardio related results solely to the AD as my cardio numbers have always been good. My c-reactive protein and homocysteine results were terrific also. I can also say my libido (which had been flagging) is much improved, adding a certain zest that had been missing for a while.

On the second count (LBM gains), it is going slow but I have gained several pounds with no increase in fat. I love the pump I feel after a carb load and I equally enjoy the (more frequent) days when my strength, stamina, and focus in the gym give me a rush. I can only hope that as the duration of this way of eating lengthens, that these great improvements will ratchet up even further.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all the great posters in this thread. DH, Il Cazzo, Tiribulus, Avacado, Pauli D, Sasha, All Natural, Sifuinkorea, Ovalpline, OMC, Bizmark, bkmackey9288, Alphadragon, josh.shafer to name only a few. Your knowledge and generosity constantly amazes me.