My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i usually go to this butcher shop place that is supposed to have really good prices on meat compared to everywhere else. yeah im thinking ill just have to buy huge packages of ground beef and keep the luxuries down to a minimum, bacon, steaks, nice cheeses, etc.

sometimes i just think id be better off ditching the AD while im eating so much but then i think that itd be too tempting to eat garbage and im sure no matter how hard id try my sugar to keep it low my sugar intake would go up, causing all sorts of problems, plus all the water retention…nah. i guess as much as its costing, ill stick with the AD, i mean if im eating upwards of 5,000 calories a day and can still see my abs, its gotta be worth it.[/quote]

uhhh, AD is hella cheap if you get your meat in bulk and freeze it. buy a side of beef from a farmer. I find butcher shops are usually the most expensive places to buy animals. I woud try the discount grocers.

-chris

I CANNOT wait to get on this diet, but its going to have to wait 3 more weeks till footballs over. I plan to use this diet till about febuary when i do though.
My goals will be:
260\230
24%BF\15%
Noticeable abbs and get rid of my gdam moobs lol.

Iv read and considerd this diet since last year but iv never really had much time or determination to go for it. But since this coming years going to be my last football season i want to be in the best possible shape i can be in. Iv already orderd Dr. Di Pasquale and plan to follow it religiously. Thanks T-Nation for showing me this diet and hopefully changing my life along with it

ciao

Hi all,

I’ve been on the anabolic diet for a few weeks now. So far so good. I’m working my way through this thread. Special thanks to all the regular contributors - you guys have been real helpful.

Anyways - my situation. I have a weird schedule. Every Sunday I pretty much have to stay up all night, nap a few hours on Monday morning, and then try and resume a normal sleep schedule for the rest of the week. I’ve been training three days a week, Tues-Thurs-Sat.

When would you guys suggest I carb up? Sunday is sort of good in that I’m away from my house for 20 hours (it’s pressnite for a student comedy paper) and they supply free pizza, but I’m also tired as hell by the end of it and can’t train that day. I’d also like more control (and more variety) and wouldn’t mind just taking a bunch of boiled eggs/meats/spinach with me for Sunday and enjoying my carb up when I can really control everything.

I’m also thinking a short, clean one would be best, as I’m cutting. Lots of oatmeal. Mmm. Thoughts?

Oh, and lastly - I’m at about pg 180 of this thread, and people keep mentioning an ebook by Vince Gironda. Does anyone still actively participating in this thread have it?

Another question to add, when football ends, i plan on doing a pretty heavy high intensity training program with the 3\4 (deadlifts) basic exercises and im wondering if i shouldn’t jump into it so hard in the beginning phases of my diet. Will I just get whooped or will i have the energy levels to do it? Thanks for any positive feedback

[quote]Chip y0 wrote:
Another question to add, when football ends, i plan on doing a pretty heavy high intensity training program with the 3\4 (deadlifts) basic exercises and im wondering if i shouldn’t jump into it so hard in the beginning phases of my diet. Will I just get whooped or will i have the energy levels to do it? Thanks for any positive feedback[/quote]

You should be fine, I’ve found that my energy and strength is excellent! I’m going into week 6 on the diet

I plan my weekday’s macros and food of course, but I also plan the weekend, some people go hog wild with the carb ups, but if you control them and make sure you get enough, you’ll have that carb energy early in the week, so place your hardest workouts then. I do legs on Monday, in fact I’m so ready for the gym tomorrow!!!

Thanks for the help :slight_smile:

[quote]Avocado wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i usually go to this butcher shop place that is supposed to have really good prices on meat compared to everywhere else. yeah im thinking ill just have to buy huge packages of ground beef and keep the luxuries down to a minimum, bacon, steaks, nice cheeses, etc.

sometimes i just think id be better off ditching the AD while im eating so much but then i think that itd be too tempting to eat garbage and im sure no matter how hard id try my sugar to keep it low my sugar intake would go up, causing all sorts of problems, plus all the water retention…nah. i guess as much as its costing, ill stick with the AD, i mean if im eating upwards of 5,000 calories a day and can still see my abs, its gotta be worth it.

uhhh, AD is hella cheap if you get your meat in bulk and freeze it. buy a side of beef from a farmer. I find butcher shops are usually the most expensive places to buy animals. I woud try the discount grocers.

-chris[/quote]

nah the place i get it from is the cheapest place around to get meat. unfortunately theres no cattle farmers anywhere close to me (boston) so yeah ill just buy in bulk and freeze and use ground beef and eggs to make up like 75% of my weekday food.

hmmm, well shit. I suppose just get the cheaper cuts and replace some cals with EVOO and sausage which i find to be cheap.

-chris

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
the bad news is ITS SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE, i know i can eat more eggs to try and compensate but i dont want to eat nothing but eggs so if anyone has any tips on cheap AD friendly foods please let me know.[/quote]

In line with getting 1:1:1 ratio of fats, I get a lot of my daily calories from EVOO and fish oil caps (I buy a local store brand). I also get half my protein from a low-carb protein powder. These three things help to keep the cost down. They’re also easier to get down than whole food.

you guys are killing me with you fish oil caps. do yourself a favour and hit up the liquid fish oil. It is twice as cost effective and has not been through a heating process to cap it. Plus it tastes like oranges.

Be sure to get the good ass Canadian “health from the sea” double third-party tested, small fish only brand for the best taste etc. I notice way better anti inflammation with this because I can get 15 grams in one tbsp.

-chris

I have been losing fat, but i have now hit a wall. I was wondering that instead of having an all out carb up day if I could split it into 2 different days but only have a small carb meal at night on these two days? I would have like 200 carbs on wed. and sat. thanks for any help.

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
I have been losing fat, but i have now hit a wall. I was wondering that instead of having an all out carb up day if I could split it into 2 different days but only have a small carb meal at night on these two days? I would have like 200 carbs on wed. and sat. thanks for any help.[/quote]

How long have you been on the AD? IF less than 6 months, I’d suggest not doing it. But that’s just me.

AD

[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
matt_t2004 wrote:
I have been losing fat, but i have now hit a wall. I was wondering that instead of having an all out carb up day if I could split it into 2 different days but only have a small carb meal at night on these two days? I would have like 200 carbs on wed. and sat. thanks for any help.

How long have you been on the AD? IF less than 6 months, I’d suggest not doing it. But that’s just me.

AD[/quote]

I have been on the cutting stage for about 2 months, but have been following total for about 4. I also have to add that I have gained about 5 lbs of muscle while keeping the same bf%. I just want to get into the single digit category

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
matt_t2004 wrote:
I have been losing fat, but i have now hit a wall. I was wondering that instead of having an all out carb up day if I could split it into 2 different days but only have a small carb meal at night on these two days? I would have like 200 carbs on wed. and sat. thanks for any help.

How long have you been on the AD? IF less than 6 months, I’d suggest not doing it. But that’s just me.

AD

I have been on the cutting stage for about 2 months, but have been following total for about 4. I also have to add that I have gained about 5 lbs of muscle while keeping the same bf%. I just want to get into the single digit category[/quote]

To get into lower numbers, things need to become more strict, and I’m not sure that your plan will do it. Maybe by eliminating certain foods would help more (i.e. pork, bacon, etc?)

I don’t have the AD book a section on “Pre contest phase?” You may want to check it out (It’s not available to me at the moment to check out).

THus, I have no real opinion on that one. If you do it, tell us how it goes.

Sorry, otherwise I have nothing to say.

AD

im getting a little paranoid about my carb intake, i wish there was a way to know for sure if your body has switched back…but i mean as long as im putting on muscle and getting stronger then it must mean all is well right?

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
im getting a little paranoid about my carb intake, i wish there was a way to know for sure if your body has switched back…but i mean as long as im putting on muscle and getting stronger then it must mean all is well right?[/quote]

As far as knowing whether you’re in ketosis or not, you can use KETO-STIX from your local drug store. It’s a quick and easy urine test.

I’m not so sure what Mauro (or the other AD vets) think about ketosis while on the AD but the test is a good one.

well according to Dr. D you never actually are in astate of ketosis.

however, even if i was in ketosis i dont think the ketostix would help because lets say i overate my carbs on a monday and tuesday then wednesday, thursday and friday i eat low carb and i test on a that friday it could still say im in ketosis even if my metabolism is back to carb-fueled so maybe if i tested it the day of the carb spill in question but other than that i dont see it as being very insightful.

I have been on the diet for a little over 3 months. I cant get enough of it. The bad news is I recently brroke my eating cyle and took in way to many carbs. Should I start all or get back on track. I would also like to know what some of you out there eat because I am kinda gettin tired of the same foods. Thanks for the help.

^i feel you on the getting tired of the same foods thing, theres a thread here called “AD Recipes” i definately need to take advantage of it because eggs and hamburgers have gotten waaaaaaaayyyy old.

I’m trying to branch off onto other foods too. I tried a great marinade on beef chuck, made homemade Alfredo sauce and put that on chicken, made homemade aioli (garlic mayonnaise) for chicken or salads, and a citrus mayo on tuna patties (mix 2 tbs mayo -I use an expeller pressed canola mayo- 1 tbs heavy cream, a little ilme zest, 1 tbs lime juice, and a little cumin, it’s excellent!)

I also just got a great recipe for a turkey/green bean casserole and you use heavy cream, mayo, and cheese

you could also make quiches

Coming up on week 7, wow, already!