My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]ThaYoun1 wrote:
For everyone on the AD, consuming lots of red meat, do you know what your cholesterol levels are like?

I started the diet on Monday and my energy has been incredibly low (i could only do half of my usual cardio workout). I have headaches every once in a while also. However my primary concern is the effect of red meats on cholesterol during this diet. I’m worried that this will boost my cholesterol sky high. I have ordered fish oil pills but i’m not sure how much that will help after eating so many eggs and red meat.

Also, when will i notice my energy coming back and stop sweating so easily? I feel like a pig lol[/quote]

I posted this a little while back. I’ve been on this diet since June 18th. Six weeks later, after sticking to the diet precisely (even upwards of 65-70% fat), with 4 whole eggs + bacon + EVOO for breakfast each day, and with eating steak, lamb, sausage, etc many

times per week, I got my blood work done. Last year on a standard CHO based diet my chol. was 140. Now, 144. Triglyceride levels plummeted. Last year, they were 111; now, 37. HDL is now 45, last year it was 28 (considered to be low). LDL last year - 90 (good), this year, 92. My liver panel is normal.

Now, I obviously exercise a lot (duh) and I made sure that my sat. fat intake was never equal to or higher than my mono. I made sure to take at least 3g of fish oil/day and had several tblspns of EVOO.

Your engergy problem should go away very very soon. It’s completely normal to experience what you’re going through. It depends on what your diet was like prior to the AD (if it was lower carb, then the transition is a little easier). Stick it out and you will be fine.

I have heard many claims from people on all kinds of very low carb diets that they improve their cholesterol profiles, blood pressure, and even cure their diabetes.

For my part, back when I was on a low carb paleo sort of diet several years ago, for about a year or two, I had no cholesterol or blood pressure problems except maybe too low after awhile (possibly had too much potassium and/or adrenal fatigue).

[quote]Clark Banner wrote:
UPDATE: Approaching my 2nd CHO load day, I’m doing six days on 1 day off. I have a lot of fat to drop. Down to 19% from 30% approximately 20 days ago, and steady dropping weight and fat, which is a good thing. But noticing, that fat % is dropping quicker than overall weight. Which I expected anyway.

Started at 230 lbs at 30% bf, currently at 219 at 19%. Goal is 160-170 lbs at 5-7%. I can do this thing forever. So, I’m not really concerned at how quick I get there, as long as I’m constantly progressing![/quote]

can you post what your diet is like? and cardio/workout regime?

I had my cholesterol checked, and it was abit high at 230, I’m only 20 years old.

Maybe it was my high intake of fat (80%) the first week of AD, but something got me that high.

[quote]Filmmakerr wrote:
I had my cholesterol checked, and it was abit high at 230, I’m only 20 years old.

Maybe it was my high intake of fat (80%) the first week of AD, but something got me that high.[/quote]

Maybe it was your diet BEFORE the AD?

You have been on the AD for one week and whatever else (guessing not entirely healthy) the other 20 years of your life. Which is more likely the culprit?

bkmacky9288, I can sympathize. There have been moments yesterday and today where I felt so energized and angry in a certain way (more like determined) that I wanted to break something, just to get something out.

Anyway, today wound up going like this:

grape juice + creatine, protein shake, ginger-pumpkin cookies, honey nut cheerios

85% cacao chocolate bar, box of Belgian butter cookies, Ommegang Abbey Ale

juice smoothie, couple handfuls of cashews

peanut butter and nutella (chocolate hazelnut spread) sandwich on sprouted grain bread, with baked Lays and a glass of orange juice

mashed potatoes and a casein protein shake

I actually got rather hungry… “starving”… even between the juice/nuts and the peanut butter sandwich meals. Metabolism surely must be up, and I feel like I am looking thinner in the mirror today. Weird?

[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Filmmakerr wrote:
I had my cholesterol checked, and it was abit high at 230, I’m only 20 years old.

Maybe it was my high intake of fat (80%) the first week of AD, but something got me that high.

Maybe it was your diet BEFORE the AD?

You have been on the AD for one week and whatever else (guessing not entirely healthy) the other 20 years of your life. Which is more likely the culprit?[/quote]

Actually ive been on the AD for 4 month,s lol. More trying to get into Keto though, and also following the RPT by CT which basically IS the AD.

In regards to cholesterol, I think that’s what i’m worried about the most. I’ve ordered home tests for cholesterol and I plan to take my reading after my first carb up is complete. If it is high, what should I do regarding diet?

In May when I took my physical i was told that my cholesterol was a little high (by 10 points i think it was). I was told that using fish oil caps and virgin oil help with this and have ordered them as well. What should i avoid to help my cholesterol levels?

[quote]Filmmakerr wrote:
Moon Knight wrote:
Filmmakerr wrote:
I had my cholesterol checked, and it was abit high at 230, I’m only 20 years old.

Maybe it was my high intake of fat (80%) the first week of AD, but something got me that high.

Maybe it was your diet BEFORE the AD?

You have been on the AD for one week and whatever else (guessing not entirely healthy) the other 20 years of your life. Which is more likely the culprit?

Actually ive been on the AD for 4 month,s lol. More trying to get into Keto though, and also following the RPT by CT which basically IS the AD.[/quote]

Yea but how did you eat before the AD? Besides I would be more worried about your triglycerides then cholesterol levels.

Go 4 months into a diet wouldnt change my cholesterol levels?

regarding how I ate before the AD, basic BB food, maybe a 50/30/20 split.

i got a couple more questions (thanks to everyone thats been answering them)

first is; is it still possible to put on mass while on either the cutting or maintainence phases of the diet or can i only put on muscle while bulking? …or does bulking just make it a lot quicker?

second, if i carb up for 1 day instead of 2 should i be eating more of foods with a high or low GI, or does it matter?

Guys I’ve just started this diet this week.

Going well so far.

Please could you rate my AD diet listed below:

Meal 1: 4 eggs and 2 rashers bacon

Meal 2: 100g Mozzarella Cheese

Meal 3: 425g Tuna 100g Cheese + 60ml Olive Oil

Meal 4: 100g Salami (Pepporoni)

Meal 5: 60g WPI Shake

Meal 6: 250g Red Meat

Meal 7: 60g WPI Shake + 100g Cottage Cheese

Total Cal around 4200.


Questions:

  1. Can I have my 2 scoops of NO Xplode before my workout? Would that be cheating?

  2. What about some Dextrose immediately after my workout too? Just thinking of replacing the depeleted glycogen in the muscles.

Would really appreacite some advice :slight_smile:

PS. DOing it for BB.

[quote]sean85 wrote:—
Questions:

  1. Can I have my 2 scoops of NO Xplode before my workout? Would that be cheating?

  2. What about some Dextrose immediately after my workout too? Just thinking of replacing the depeleted glycogen in the muscles.

Would really appreacite some advice :slight_smile:

PS. DOing it for BB.[/quote]

This has been covered dozens of times, peri & post WO carbs are not necessary.

Poliquin, DiPasquale, and Thib all reccomend a combination of whey isolate, glutamine, leucine, and glycine Post WO.

Read the third paragraph under supplements on this link: http://www.fitnesswarehouse.ca/en/Articles_35/New_3493/51.html

you can also read this: http://www.bodyofscience.com/issues/summer_2005/pdfs/poliquin_summer2005.pdf

There is also a PDF article on DiPasquale’s website entitled postworkout carbohydrates. I would attach it but I dont know how to link documents.

Anyways, Hope this helps.

[quote]sean85 wrote:
Guys I’ve just started this diet this week.

Going well so far.

Please could you rate my AD diet listed below:

Meal 1: 4 eggs and 2 rashers bacon

Meal 2: 100g Mozzarella Cheese

Meal 3: 425g Tuna 100g Cheese + 60ml Olive Oil

Meal 4: 100g Salami (Pepporoni)

Meal 5: 60g WPI Shake

Meal 6: 250g Red Meat

Meal 7: 60g WPI Shake + 100g Cottage Cheese

Total Cal around 4200.


Questions:

  1. Can I have my 2 scoops of NO Xplode before my workout? Would that be cheating?

  2. What about some Dextrose immediately after my workout too? Just thinking of replacing the depeleted glycogen in the muscles.

Would really appreacite some advice :slight_smile:

PS. DOing it for BB.[/quote]

Sean have you read the ebook on this diet?

Part of the point of low carbs during the week is to deplete glycogen. If you have room in your 30 carb alotment for NO Xplode or dextrose then go for it, but I would strongly suggest you save most of those carbs for veggies and nuts.

It would probably be in your best interest to cease wasting money on NO Xplode anyway. NO supplements have been shown to be next to, if not useless, and definately not worth the price.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i got a couple more questions (thanks to everyone thats been answering them)

first is; is it still possible to put on mass while on either the cutting or maintainence phases of the diet or can i only put on muscle while bulking? …or does bulking just make it a lot quicker?

second, if i carb up for 1 day instead of 2 should i be eating more of foods with a high or low GI, or does it matter?[/quote]

I would think that if you are only doing 1 day of carbing up, higher GI carbs that fill you up faster would become more important.

I cannot answer your other questions, sorry.

So, I was feeling great yesterday but I dehydrated badly over night last night and felt like I was coming back from the dead this morning. I have been groggy, grouchy, and moody all day. I thought I had myself stirred up enough to drive through my workout but after two piss poor sets I let it go. I was not even matching my strength from last week (last week was week 2 of the initial 12 day transition so should have been a low point).

I guess maybe my sleep was more restless than I realized last night, but I somehow have to think maybe I did something wrong on the carb-up.

Or else, am I possibly further transitioning and that was one of the walls I hit? Maybe a combination of things?

I am 6’1 185 lbs with 13 % bf. How many kcal should i be taking in on this diet. The book says my weight x 18, but I am not looking to add size right now I am wanting to get lean. Don’t get me wrong I always could use some extra lean muscle, but as of now I want to just get down in the single digit bf. My current kcal is about 2500 a day. Thanks for any advice.

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
I am 6’1 185 lbs with 13 % bf. How many kcal should i be taking in on this diet. The book says my weight x 18, but I am not looking to add size right now I am wanting to get lean. Don’t get me wrong I always could use some extra lean muscle, but as of now I want to just get down in the single digit bf. My current kcal is about 2500 a day. Thanks for any advice.[/quote]

18x your bodyfat is what you should be doing for at LEAST the first two weeks to make the transition smooth. Ideally you should continue with this for the rest of the first month, perhaps even into the second month. At that point you can start reducing calories and/or limiting the scope of your carb-up in order to lose weight.

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
I am 6’1 185 lbs with 13 % bf. How many kcal should i be taking in on this diet. The book says my weight x 18, but I am not looking to add size right now I am wanting to get lean. Don’t get me wrong I always could use some extra lean muscle, but as of now I want to just get down in the single digit bf. My current kcal is about 2500 a day. Thanks for any advice.[/quote]

If you’re just starting out do it like the book says. You may not adapt properly if you get creative too soon.

Maybe this will help me add some more muscle. Ok I’ve been on the AD for around 7 months. And I thinking about hittn’ the wed night carb meals for a few times to see what happens. Will I

1 Turn into a fat ass
2 Have better workouts but turn into a fat ass
3 Have better workouts and no fat gain
4 Have worse w/os and or
5 Not even notice a thing

Well what ever the answer is I’m going to find out. I’ll play around with my weekend carb levels and lowering them some. Then I’ll chime back in and let you know how it goes.