[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
So… I was reading more of the Anabolic Solution and it occured to me that BCAAs, especially in significant quantity, can up insulin. Would this not be counterproductive to the shift to fat-burning that is supposed to occur during the week? The book says that insulin decreases fat burning and increases fat storage, which has been my understanding in the past as well.
Will taking a few grams of BCAAs several times a day, and higher doses around workouts, hurt my progress?
Any experiences?[/quote]
Absolutely not. As you know the insulin response will help transport aminos into your muscles. Since you have no carbs for the insulin to sledge hammer into your fat cells you should be OK. Also you won’t get that big of a spike from BCAA to worry about it anyways, besides even regular protein (especially whey) will stimulate insulin. In fact the anticatibolic properties of BCAAs will help you out. I wouldn’t diet without them. Shit I don’t even bulk without em.
snce were on the subject of carb ups…well…“were”, ive been really sluggish today. it’s only my second carb up and i cant really compare it to my last since i was sitting down all day at a workshop anyway.
i dont think its a clean food factor since im eating mostly bread, rice,oatmeal, cereal(not cocoa puffs)muffins, and i did have an oatmeal rasin-nut cookie but i doubt thats significant enough to drain me for a whole day. so is this feeling going to be a persistant thing or will it pass as my body adapts?
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
snce were on the subject of carb ups…well…“were”, ive been really sluggish today. it’s only my second carb up and i cant really compare it to my last since i was sitting down all day at a workshop anyway.
i dont think its a clean food factor since im eating mostly bread, rice,oatmeal, cereal(not cocoa puffs)muffins, and i did have an oatmeal rasin-nut cookie but i doubt thats significant enough to drain me for a whole day. so is this feeling going to be a persistant thing or will it pass as my body adapts?[/quote]
Perhaps you are sensitive to grains? Have you tried eating more vegetables and fewer grains?
Also I wonder if maybe you are cutting fat too much during the carb-up? Since the body is fat-adapted it may be expecting a bit more fat than you are giving it in order to hum along now?
I ran across this while doing some research on CHO:
“Complex carbohydrates, although absorbed more slowly (a lower glycemic index) lessening demands on the pancreas to release insulin and minimizing large blood sugar swings, can, when eaten in large amounts, move through the intestinal tract unabsorbed. Then after entering the colon, they are metabolized by the resident bacteria leading to an increase in gassiness or flatus.”
I thought this might answer the questions of some who were experiencing adverse reactions while CHO-loading.
Here is the ref:
Sounds like the key is to eat moderate amounts at a time, so that they can be digested and absorbed more efficiently. I’d also surmise that “moderate amounts” would be highly individual, as we all have our own unique tolerances.
Has anyone had problems with their workouts while on the this diet. This is my 5th week of the AD and by midweek workout(WED), i was completely drained after my lifting. Today was worse. I was having a hard time catching my breath. I’ve only been lifting since Feb and never had this happen before.
After my carb up this afternoon, i couldn’t stay awake. Slept for 15 minutes and was fine. Now i feel pretty good. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
[quote]natural59 wrote:
I ran across this while doing some research on CHO:
“Complex carbohydrates, although absorbed more slowly (a lower glycemic index) lessening demands on the pancreas to release insulin and minimizing large blood sugar swings, can, when eaten in large amounts, move through the intestinal tract unabsorbed. Then after entering the colon, they are metabolized by the resident bacteria leading to an increase in gassiness or flatus.”
I thought this might answer the questions of some who were experiencing adverse reactions while CHO-loading.
Here is the ref:
Sounds like the key is to eat moderate amounts at a time, so that they can be digested and absorbed more efficiently. I’d also surmise that “moderate amounts” would be highly individual, as we all have our own unique tolerances.
Just a thought.
-james[/quote]
Quite so. Moderate amounts and I personally would recommend going fairly clean until you have a feel for how it’s going. I think some guys shipwreck themselves by gorging on junk their first few loads. Do whatever you want, but it will be easier to gauge once you have some time under your belt.
[quote]cheaptric wrote:
Has anyone had problems with their workouts while on the this diet. This is my 5th week of the AD and by midweek workout(WED), i was completely drained after my lifting. Today was worse. I was having a hard time catching my breath. I’ve only been lifting since Feb and never had this happen before.
After my carb up this afternoon, i couldn’t stay awake. Slept for 15 minutes and was fine. Now i feel pretty good. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.[/quote]
You’re right on schedule. Stick it out. You will level off. It took me a couple months too. Well worth it.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
cheaptric wrote:
Has anyone had problems with their workouts while on the this diet. This is my 5th week of the AD and by midweek workout(WED), i was completely drained after my lifting. Today was worse. I was having a hard time catching my breath. I’ve only been lifting since Feb and never had this happen before.
After my carb up this afternoon, i couldn’t stay awake. Slept for 15 minutes and was fine. Now i feel pretty good. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
You’re right on schedule. Stick it out. You will level off. It took me a couple months too. Well worth it.[/quote]
all true…as a matter of fact as the week goes on my workouts get better it seems for me…of course im going on a year and 2months AD now
Well so far so good I guess. I kicked off my first carb up this morning with grape juice and creatine, and a Metabolic Drive protein bar.
I was pretty dehydrated waking this morning. I felt bloated until I passed some water, and returned to that feeling as soon as I tried to rehydrate. It may be hard for me to gauge “smoothing out”. On the other hand, I am feeling right now the first hunger pangs I have had in some time.
I just had a glass of orange juice and am eating a raw food bar (basicly fruit, nuts, and spices dehydrated into a bar). I plan to follow this with a peanut butter and honey sandwich on sprouted multigrain bread, with baked Lays potato chips. I may have a few pumpkin-ginger cookies for desert.
Hopefully the extra fiber, potassium, and alkalinizing foods (fruits, veggies, sugar) along with plenty of water will get my metabolism and digestion going a bit more than it has been. Fiber and hydration seem to be almost daily issues with me going back to before starting this diet.
So far no side effects from the carb up except for a mild, haunting dullness. Not quite tired but not quite energized either. This has been a problem before today though.
Later on in the day I have spicy broccoli with rice and pine nuts planned at a Chinese restaurant, and mashed potatoes, a bottle of Guiness, and yogurt later on.
hi-
okay so everytime i carb up i binge in the am and by the second day i want to quit the carb up because i know ill go over my limit if i dont stop. I usually hit this point half way thru the second day.
the problem is, is that i heard that if you eat carbs for .5 of the day and try to eat P+F again for the second .5 of the day, your body stores all of the fat.
so is it better to go over your limit of carbs or is it better to stop and start eating p+f when you should?
UPDATE: Approaching my 2nd CHO load day, I’m doing six days on 1 day off. I have a lot of fat to drop. Down to 19% from 30% approximately 20 days ago, and steady dropping weight and fat, which is a good thing. But noticing, that fat % is dropping quicker than overall weight. Which I expected anyway.
Started at 230 lbs at 30% bf, currently at 219 at 19%. Goal is 160-170 lbs at 5-7%. I can do this thing forever. So, I’m not really concerned at how quick I get there, as long as I’m constantly progressing!
that is fucking awesome progress! It’s always great to hear how effective this lifestyle is. Keep an overwatch on your total calories, within the proper ratios and you should not hit a plateau with your bodyfat loss.
Pilgrim…
if you need less than a full days’ carb-up time then eat your carbs later in the day instead of starting out on carbs. As most of the vets know, I only eat carbs once or twice a month, and they are usually of the Fri or Sat nite brand of beer and pizza. Just finish your day with carbs and you’ll feel better as well as getting a proper fast between carb up and high fat feedings.
Matt…
HIIT is how I train most of time. This style of eating works great with intense intervals. Your body learns how to overcome and adapts to the stimulis, and you burn a shit load of bodyfat in the process. Just don’t out-eat your physical labors.
Moon…
I have a history of digestive problems. Stick with it and through all of the runs/drys while your body cleans itself out. The less processed meats you ingest, the better you will feel. Fiber is not as important once you’ve adapted as it is when you are eating wheat/rice/sugar (unless you overdo it every weekend!). There is no need to “push” natural foods through your tract.
Good to see Tirib still in the game… I’ve been busy at work, but one of my soldiers needs to lose weight and is finally asking about my eating habits. In trying to explain this eating style, I realized that I have been eating like this for so long that I almost had no idea how to explain it thoroughly for him. So I started to re-read. Newbies help keep us vets in shape as well.
I know I should search the tread a bit more, but I am a bit short on time…Anyway, my question is that, when cutting and reducing the calories over the weeks, does the calories on the carb up day stay the same? ie change in macros, so if you were reducing the carbs, increase the fats/pro to keep the cals up or do you reduce overall calories from the carb up days aswell as during the week?
[quote]Clark Banner wrote:
UPDATE: Approaching my 2nd CHO load day, I’m doing six days on 1 day off. I have a lot of fat to drop. Down to 19% from 30% approximately 20 days ago, and steady dropping weight and fat, which is a good thing. But noticing, that fat % is dropping quicker than overall weight. Which I expected anyway.
Started at 230 lbs at 30% bf, currently at 219 at 19%. Goal is 160-170 lbs at 5-7%. I can do this thing forever. So, I’m not really concerned at how quick I get there, as long as I’m constantly progressing![/quote]
…not to burst your bubble Clark, dropping 11lbs in 20days is great, but here’s something to consider:
230lbs @ 30%bf = 161lbs LBM and 69lbs fat
219lbs @ 19%bf = 177lbs LBM and 42lbs fat
So in 20 days you dropped 27lbs of bodyfat, and at the same time gained 16lbs of LBM (that’s over 5lbs/week). Now granted that would be a a great transformation story but…I think you need to re-calibrate your fat calipers or toss out that defective Tanita scale!..Hebs
grape juice + creatine, and Metabolic Drive protein bar
raw food bar, orange juice, peanut butter and honey sandwich, baked Lays
large order of sesame chicken (chicken cooked in a sweet sesame sauce with a few sprigs of broccoli and lots (2 cups I would guess) of white rice)
green juice
broccoli in garlic sauce with pine nuts over white rice, 2 Danactive yogurts (the kind with the extra digestive enzymes) and a Guiness Extra Stout
I may have over done it quantity-wise (felt a bit stuffed and bloated after the chicken, gas maybe?) and possibly protein-wise (it is hard not to want to eat alot), but have felt rather good today.
I have had to struggle to stay hydrated and I have had some gas/bloating on and off, but otherwise no ill effects. I cannot really tell if I am smoothing out yet, but I would say probably not. I have had no insulin crash today which was amazing.
[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Thanks for the encouragement sifuinkorea.
My eating today ended up looking like this:
grape juice + creatine, and Metabolic Drive protein bar
raw food bar, orange juice, peanut butter and honey sandwich, baked Lays
large order of sesame chicken (chicken cooked in a sweet sesame sauce with a few sprigs of broccoli and lots (2 cups I would guess) of white rice)
green juice
broccoli in garlic sauce with pine nuts over white rice, 2 Danactive yogurts (the kind with the extra digestive enzymes) and a Guiness Extra Stout
I may have over done it quantity-wise (felt a bit stuffed and bloated after the chicken, gas maybe?) and possibly protein-wise (it is hard not to want to eat alot), but have felt rather good today.
I have had to struggle to stay hydrated and I have had some gas/bloating on and off, but otherwise no ill effects. I cannot really tell if I am smoothing out yet, but I would say probably not. I have had no insulin crash today which was amazing.
Hope everyone else is progressing. I THINK I am.[/quote]
it seems im a lot more progressive when it comes to getting angry easier…i wanna break shit and throw things around…
For everyone on the AD, consuming lots of red meat, do you know what your cholesterol levels are like?
I started the diet on Monday and my energy has been incredibly low (i could only do half of my usual cardio workout). I have headaches every once in a while also. However my primary concern is the effect of red meats on cholesterol during this diet. I’m worried that this will boost my cholesterol sky high. I have ordered fish oil pills but i’m not sure how much that will help after eating so many eggs and red meat.
Also, when will i notice my energy coming back and stop sweating so easily? I feel like a pig lol
