hmm ive been on this diet for just over a year now and im having gas do you other vets get gassy on carb ups too or only certain foods? if its just something to deal with then i wont take stuff out of my carb ups cuz i love my beans with rice lol…
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
hmm ive been on this diet for just over a year now and im having gas do you other vets get gassy on carb ups too or only certain foods? if its just something to deal with then i wont take stuff out of my carb ups cuz i love my beans with rice lol…[/quote]
No gas problems for me, dude.
So this is day 11 and I went ahead with the carb up today. I’m one of the most impatient people on the planet so I’m surprised I held out this long. Anyway, I had to for my schedule and I had felt like I already made the shift.
Fruit tastes weird now.
[quote]natural59 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
ive got a question, on the AD youre supposed to have a higher % of “caloric” fat intake vs protein, well if im taking in more protein in terms of grams does this matter as long as my calorie level of fat is higher than my calorie level of protein?
You may have derived this (percentage of caloric consumption) from several of my posts. Admittedly, I have not read the book, but this info was gleaned from the posts of DH (Disk Hoss). At least, that was my conclusion, based on his comments.
I believe this to be accurate, however, he often spoke of nutrient consumption in terms of calories, grams, and as a percentage.
For example, from page 23:
[SNIPPET]
Disk Hoss wrote:
Hold up there pardner. All terms are relative. For fat loss start out at around 12x bodyweight. If you are 200lbs then the following is in order:
@2400 cals.
250g Protein (1000kcal) (a bit extra)
30g CHO (120kcal)
140g Fat (1260kcal)
This is lower fat than the maintenance phase and mass phase but your primary source of cals is still from fat. “Low” is a relative term here.
[/SNIPPET]
You’ll notice that in the excerpt above, he refers to cals as a percentage of total caloric intake, i.e., fat calories in the example exceed those from protein, but by weight, protein exceeds fat.
I just don’t want to lead anyone astray, if I’ve misinterpreted his comments, so it would be advisable to hear from someone who has actually read the book, and can quote a more definitive reference in this regard.
-james[/quote]
alright, so aslong as im taking in more fat calories than protein calories ill be all set? the past 4-5 days ive been trying to compete with my fat/protein gram intake…i guess that wasnt such a good idea, so from now on ill just make sure im getting in more fat cals, which im pretty sure i was doing in the first place.
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
hmm ive been on this diet for just over a year now and im having gas do you other vets get gassy on carb ups too or only certain foods? if its just something to deal with then i wont take stuff out of my carb ups cuz i love my beans with rice lol…[/quote]
I drop some BOMBS on carb ups. Real nasty stuff.
I usually have oats, uncle ben’s brown rice, sweet potato, cheerios, etc.
Gas occurs generally 4 hours into a carbup.
[quote]i0wny0uall wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
hmm ive been on this diet for just over a year now and im having gas do you other vets get gassy on carb ups too or only certain foods? if its just something to deal with then i wont take stuff out of my carb ups cuz i love my beans with rice lol…
I drop some BOMBS on carb ups. Real nasty stuff.
I usually have oats, uncle ben’s brown rice, sweet potato, cheerios, etc.
Gas occurs generally 4 hours into a carbup. [/quote]
Ditto for me, the stink bombs fly all over the place, to the wife’s dismay…lol…
Hey, this is to AD vets...
Ok, I f’ed up, and have gone over the CHO limit several times in the last week and a half…I need to start over strict again…
so, if I start tomorrow, back to “regulations”, how long before I should carb up again?
Do you think I should go till next weekend, or go for extra days again?
And I'm only going to carb up twice a week, VERY CLEANLY, but once on Wednesday, and once on Saturday..
I'll let you all know how that goes, but what about my redepletion scenario? I'm down for whatever "punishment time" is necessary....lol..
Let me have your opinions guys/vets..
thank you for your patronage...
ToneBone
Ya know this thread is no longer a thread. I don’t know what to call it. An association maybe? Stick with me here. There hasn’t been a new question asked in at least a year or a few thousand posts. Which means every single thing practically fathomable has been discussed somewhere here since Mdragon started this thread long before I was around.
The sheer galactic size of it makes it no longer workable to tell new guys to “just read the thread” though the first 50 pages or so are a must. Where most threads run their course and people refer back to them, this one just keeps rolling. It’s almost like it’s own site. I don’t mean this as a negative, just as an observation.
What would be unthinkably kickass is if threads were searchable individually. The same stuff comes up over and over (like gas fer instance), but it’s just not reasonable to expect people to take a stab at trying to find anything specific in this leviathan of a thread anymore. Again, not a negative, but just the reality of the situation. If folks could search just this thread they could find quicker answers, bu then the camaraderie wouldn’t be the same. Don’t mind me, I’m gittin ready for shoulders, chest and tris and jist thinkin out loud a bit.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
What would be unthinkably kickass is if threads were searchable individually.[/quote]
That’s what I said earlier on when I joined this thread as a newcomer and I knew I was asking questions that already had been asked. A search function for threads, at least for threads that went over a 100 replies or something, would be great.
I’m sure a lot of you on AD comsume sausages as part of your daily meal but is it just me or do most of them have some carbs. The minimum I have seen was on a hot link at 4g of carb. Does that mean i should be avoiding it?
[quote]Doh wrote:
I’m sure a lot of you on AD comsume sausages as part of your daily meal but is it just me or do most of them have some carbs. The minimum I have seen was on a hot link at 4g of carb. Does that mean i should be avoiding it?[/quote]
They do, just look for those that are low carb, and count it towards your 30g…
I just bought some today, not a brand name, that are only 1g. per link…I can afford 4g. in the morning…
-james
I want to see if this diet is for me, so i’ll let you guys know what my workout and diet at the moment is like.
I am 17 years old and I just started going to the gym about 2 months ago. I am 5’6 and weigh 180 lbs.
My goal is to lose enough body fat for my abs to show, lose my love handles and for my cheeks to look a little slimmer. I have broad shoulders and my back seems to look good and I do not look as if I weigh too much except for my stomach area and my face.
I only go to the gym 3 days a week and usual do a 2 and a half hour workout.
Cardio
After I stretch, I start with a total of minutes of Cardio on a treadmill that has different speed levels (3.0, 3.5, 4, 4.5 ect).
I go for 2 minutes on 3.0, then 1 minute on 3.5, 1 minute on 4.0, 1 minute on 4.5, then I start running doing 2 minutes on Level 5.0, and then 2 more minutes on Level 5.5, by this point I’m sweating all over, but usually push myself to do 1 minute at Level 6. That takes up 10 minutes, then i start over from level 3.0 and do the same cycle again. After the second time the machine does a 5 minute “cool down” from level 3.0 at which time I am SOO grateful for lol. (thats 25 minutes to start with)
After this I go over to the excersize bikes and go for about 15 minutes, slowly increasing resistance every 3 minutes. This feels like an easier workout compared to running. (thats 35)
Once I complete that, I do the treadmill cycle only once and take a breather. (ending in a total of 45 minutes of cardio afterwhich i’m exhausted)
Resistance Training
So far i’ve done circuit training, starting with situps. I do sets of 20, one set to the left, one set center, and one set to the right (to try to attack the love handles). I do this untill i get 100 situps in each position.
Next I work the other resistance machines, bicep curls where I do sets of 10 (5 full and 5 halfway to build both the base and peak of the bicepts) starting at 72 pounds and decreasing 12lbs each set, in recent workouts i’ve tended to do more halfway bicep curls. Then i work triceps, incline/decline press machine for chest as well as those machines that are kinda like butterfly stretches with the arms.
|o| <---- those things…
I also use machines that work the deltoids and and traps, but I tend to not do those as much because when those muscles tire out the other machines much harder.
After I’m done taking my time working through the machines, I pick up a 15 pound bar and lift it underhanded. 25 full reps, 25 halfway up, 25 halfway down and 25 more full. Then i do 50 over handed for chest.
After this I stretch again and order my protein shake. I go to the locker room, spend 15 minutes in the sauna, and then take a quick shower, leave and get my shake.
As for diet,I’ve only started about a week ago. i’ve been trying to eat 5-7 “meals” a day, more protein and eating as little carbs as possible. I eat 2 vegetable servings a day, usually 2 servings of fruit, 8 glasses of water a day.
Breakfast - egg whites w/ turkey sandwich or oatmeal
Snack - Nutrigrain bar
Lunch - Grilled Chicken sandwich wrap or salad
Snack - Mixed nuts or small salad
Dinner - usually lean cuisine or rice and chicken or fish sandwich or Protein shake with a small grilled chicken sandwich wrap.
I’ve read that thread about the Anabolic Diet and I was curious about it. During the period which my body is adjusting, would I see any results as in losing body fat as I’m on this diet?
I feel uneasy about eating as the Anabolic diet suggests, for weeks until my body adjusts to burning fat for fuel. Like…am i going to gain weight for a couple weeks and then lose it once the body adjusts? Seems just as counterproductive as the “mainstream” way. I’m not bashing the diet, i’m just a lil curious about how healthy it is for the body.
I’m nervous about all the fat in the diet because 3 months ago b4 i started at the gym and changing my diet the doctor told me I had high cholesterol. (BTW Is there a way to test it without going to the doctor?) Thinking about trying this diet makes me very nervous, as it looks like there’s a risk of heart disease in the long run and the high fat foods also contain much sodium.
My goals are to build cuts and mass but to trim fat enough for my abs to show. Right now i have a gut, chubby cheeks and love handles, maybe about 20-30 pounds or so away from my ideal weight (Right now I weigh about 180 and I am 5’6)
I’d really appreciate any help with this guys. Thanks alot
So I’m nearing the end of the night during my first carb up.
I felt full a lot of the day. Right after I’d eat oatmeal, or a couple potatoes, had some pizza. Felt very full, bloated.
And drinking milk made my stomach rumble, which never happened before. Perhaps my body could just do without it for now
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
So I’m nearing the end of the night during my first carb up.
I felt full a lot of the day. Right after I’d eat oatmeal, or a couple potatoes, had some pizza. Felt very full, bloated.
And drinking milk made my stomach rumble, which never happened before. Perhaps my body could just do without it for now[/quote]
Yeah, carb ups are highly individual. You have to just figure out what your body responds best to. Some foods will get you bloated and/or really gassy. Figuring it all out is pretty fun though =)
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
hmm ive been on this diet for just over a year now and im having gas do you other vets get gassy on carb ups too or only certain foods? if its just something to deal with then i wont take stuff out of my carb ups cuz i love my beans with rice lol…
No gas problems for me, dude.[/quote]
i found that it must be my food choices…i went to a party yesterday and had this kick ass bbq chicken pizza and cake…
Finishing up my 12 day adaptation. What I have learned.
- I have to make sure I get enough protein.
- I have to make sure I get enough fiber.
- Have to watch every carb.
I will implement a more stricter weekly regimen. I have had great success thus far and I plan to utilize this plan for pretty much forever. Of course after I get more used to it I will use a lot more variety of food. But for now, because I NEED to. I will keep at least three of my meals exactly the same and fluctuate just two meals a day. The carb up will begin Tuesday morning, I thougt the 12 day thing was going to be much worse, but after day 2 it was a breeze, at least for me. Maybe I’m so carb loaded that it really hasn’t hit me yet.
Either way, let the carb feasting begin. Then the strict week. After 12 days, five days seems like nothing!
[quote]ThaYoun1 wrote:
I’ve read that thread about the Anabolic Diet and I was curious about it. During the period which my body is adjusting, would I see any results as in losing body fat as I’m on this diet?
I feel uneasy about eating as the Anabolic diet suggests, for weeks until my body adjusts to burning fat for fuel. Like…am i going to gain weight for a couple weeks and then lose it once the body adjusts? Seems just as counterproductive as the “mainstream” way. I’m not bashing the diet, i’m just a lil curious about how healthy it is for the body.
I’m nervous about all the fat in the diet because 3 months ago b4 i started at the gym and changing my diet the doctor told me I had high cholesterol. (BTW Is there a way to test it without going to the doctor?) Thinking about trying this diet makes me very nervous, as it looks like there’s a risk of heart disease in the long run and the high fat foods also contain much sodium.
My goals are to build cuts and mass but to trim fat enough for my abs to show. Right now i have a gut, chubby cheeks and love handles, maybe about 20-30 pounds or so away from my ideal weight (Right now I weigh about 180 and I am 5’6)
I’d really appreciate any help with this guys. Thanks alot[/quote]
You might lose some water weight and some fat in the break in.
If your worried about cholesterol, I would eat leaner cuts of meat and get more of your fats from plant sources. Use low fat cheese or no cheese. Mix in egg whites with your whole eggs. etc. You get the idea. The doc actually suggests this in the original AD book. Although not as tasty, I noticed this helps me get leaner too.
Fish oil (20g per day) and a bit of red wine every night (2-4 oz between 6 and 11 carbs) will also help cardiovascular health.
Best thing to do is get the AD book, read it and every so often reread bits here and there.
so what do the AD pros think of the “cheat to lose diet”?
i bought and read the book.
i like the 1 day carbup instead of 2. and you can go all out and eat anything.
since im lean already he recomends
day 1. no carb
day 2 .no carb
day 3. low carb
day 4. med carb
day 5. cheat day
repeat
any thoughts?
punchface- I guess it looks alright, but have you tried just carbing up one day a week on the AD yet. If not, try it and you may find that you like it that way better. In the end it’s just about what works for you.
Are there any chefs, or people attending culinary schools on this diet. I ask because school starts in 1 week for me, and half my day is spent preparing food. I can usually get away with not tasting things(sauces, etc.) when I’m finished, but if my chef is out of his office he will fail you for the day if you don’t taste it. I’m just worried all those little tastes here and there could really add up to be quite a bit of CHO. Just looking for some input, thanks.