My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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I am planning on using CT’s refined transformation protocol. However, the only difference been that I am on the AD,as everyone here are and was contimplating moving onto his style of diet, with around 55g’s of carbs a day, and 165g on the carb up every 10 days, according to his formula, which I wouldn’t jump into, as its too low a drop to start with…but would end up there.

If I use his diet plan, the diff’s include more protein, less fats, and the stated carb intake…Any opinions? I have however been dropping fat and gaining strength over the past few weeks, as I have cut and cleaned my carbs ups, and also slightly reduced the fats on non training days.
Any advice?

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[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:

If I use his diet plan, the diff’s include more protein, less fats, and the stated carb intake…Any opinions? I have however been dropping fat and gaining strength over the past few weeks, as I have cut and cleaned my carbs ups, and also slightly reduced the fats on non training days.
Any advice? [/quote]

My opinion:

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

The AD’s been working for you, why change it?

AD

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[quote]Pilgrim192 wrote:
im on week 4 and im cutting down too 1500 cals a day. i weigh 133
i also had a short carb up last weekend at 500 g carbs or so- mostly healthy.
the problem is, is that i have massive headached each day now and i can’t lift as much in the gym.
any suggestions? has anyone else dealt with this while cutting?

do you think i should carb up more. i barley have any energy by wednesday.
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It sounds like you’re not getting enough energy. Period.

It’s not just the carb up where you’re lacking; 1500 calories a day is not much fuel to run on.

I imagine that no matter how big your carb up is, you are still going to feel run down on such small caloric intake.

Just my 2 cents.

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Thanks for the reply AD…will keep the diet up for now. I guess, dropping to one carb up day, and lesser fat is inevitable when cutting anyway. I have made a plan:

320g Pro
195g Fat
60g Carbs (mostly post workout)

And 1 carb up day of 300g carbs, 180g pro, 50g fats…back on the high fat day sunday…

I am currently on:

265g Pro
265g Fats
30g Carbs On a training day

450 g carbs on carb up day, and a bit less on sunday

But thinkin, maybe will keep it as I am doin it fo now, and change to this a bit later.

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I need some help with a recent (past two week) stomach/intestinal problem while on this diet.

I’ve been following the AD for 6 weeks, and following it to a T. Everything was awesome until maybe 2 weeks ago, when I got intestinal/abdominal area cramps (between mild and severe), and a significant decrease in appetite along with bowel problems.

I just got back from the doc’s and my blood work was fine, x-rays apparently didn’t show anything, and they gave me Miralax (laxative).

Needless to say I dont have to explain the doc’s reaction when I told her the type of diet I was on; everyone thinks the AD is the cause of it, and perhaps it is, but I seriously do not want to switch back to a carb-based diet.

As for fiber, I should be eating more veggies. I do supp. with psyllium husks, about 4-6 servings a day.

My question is: has anyone experienced this, know someone who has experienced this, or even read about anything like this?? Can anyone give me some help as to what I should do?

I will try to increase my fiber to well over 30g a day and see if that helps. Besides that, I just want to know if anyone has experienced this before or can tell me if they think this is AD related or perhaps a stomach bug?

I need some help! i don’t want to change back to a carb-based diet again! Thanks!

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[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Thanks for the reply AD…will keep the diet up for now. I guess, dropping to one carb up day, and lesser fat is inevitable when cutting anyway. I have made a plan:

320g Pro
195g Fat
60g Carbs (mostly post workout)
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How is this anabolic? It says >30g, what are you confused about? If you intake 60 grams of carbs you are not on the diet.

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[quote]i0wny0uall wrote:
I need some help with a recent (past two week) stomach/intestinal problem while on this diet.

I’ve been following the AD for 6 weeks, and following it to a T. Everything was awesome until maybe 2 weeks ago, when I got intestinal/abdominal area cramps (between mild and severe), and a significant decrease in appetite along with bowel problems.

I just got back from the doc’s and my blood work was fine, x-rays apparently didn’t show anything, and they gave me Miralax (laxative).

Needless to say I dont have to explain the doc’s reaction when I told her the type of diet I was on; everyone thinks the AD is the cause of it, and perhaps it is, but I seriously do not want to switch back to a carb-based diet.

As for fiber, I should be eating more veggies. I do supp. with psyllium husks, about 4-6 servings a day.

My question is: has anyone experienced this, know someone who has experienced this, or even read about anything like this?? Can anyone give me some help as to what I should do?

I will try to increase my fiber to well over 30g a day and see if that helps. Besides that, I just want to know if anyone has experienced this before or can tell me if they think this is AD related or perhaps a stomach bug?

I need some help! i don’t want to change back to a carb-based diet again! Thanks!
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Try some soluble fiber like Benefiber or Fibersure. You may be getting plenty of insoluble fiber which in excess can even cause what you’re describing, but some supplemental soluble may be just the ticket to get the flora and fauna in you digestive tract blooming properly again. On the other hand it may not help at all, but this sprang to mind when I read your post.

I don’t mean to risk practicing medicine without a license, but laxatives may wind up being exactly what you don’t need as they can deplete nutrients and have the opposite effect of some soluble fiber, depending on the laxative of course.

On a much more fundamental note you ARE drinking LOTS of water right?

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[quote]i0wny0uall wrote:
I need some help with a recent (past two week) stomach/intestinal problem while on this diet.

I’ve been following the AD for 6 weeks, and following it to a T. Everything was awesome until maybe 2 weeks ago, when I got intestinal/abdominal area cramps (between mild and severe), and a significant decrease in appetite along with bowel problems.

I just got back from the doc’s and my blood work was fine, x-rays apparently didn’t show anything, and they gave me Miralax (laxative).

Needless to say I dont have to explain the doc’s reaction when I told her the type of diet I was on; everyone thinks the AD is the cause of it, and perhaps it is, but I seriously do not want to switch back to a carb-based diet.

As for fiber, I should be eating more veggies. I do supp. with psyllium husks, about 4-6 servings a day.

My question is: has anyone experienced this, know someone who has experienced this, or even read about anything like this?? Can anyone give me some help as to what I should do?

I will try to increase my fiber to well over 30g a day and see if that helps. Besides that, I just want to know if anyone has experienced this before or can tell me if they think this is AD related or perhaps a stomach bug?

I need some help! i don’t want to change back to a carb-based diet again! Thanks!
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That sucks. I never had any problems on the AD. Are you drinking enough water? Have you tried digestive enzymes or HCA? they might be worth looking into. Are you using psyllum husk for your fiber?

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[quote]greekdawg wrote:
bino wrote:

I don’t think there is any real debate on this: MCTs are bad on the AD. Reason being that it’s another energy substrate that will detract from the body’s preferential burning of LCTs, ie, body fat. Similar rationale as to why consuming alcohol is bad on the AD… or any fat burning focused diet.

DH talked about this about 10000 posts ago.

Even coconut oil?[/quote]

Refer to page 63 of the Anabolic Diet:

"It�??s also important to note that Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT�??s) get a big thumbs down for use in the Anabolic Diet. Very few foods actually contain MCT�??s, but you�??ll find many people are very big on MCT supplements, most of which are derived from coconut oil.

They�??ll say, �??It�??s fat, why can�??t we use it?�?? but it basically bypasses the whole energy pathway we�??re trying to establish with the Anabolic Diet and can be very counterproductive. MCT�??s can be of great use on a diet high in complex carbs because of its protein sparing
effects.

But on the Anabolic Diet, the body, instead of using the long chain fatty acids that make up most body fat, uses the MCT�??s. The body ends up bypassing the very metabolic processes that the Anabolic Diet sets up: to burn its own fat and use the long chain fatties as a primary energy source.

The long chain triglycerides utilized in the Anabolic Diet also have several advantages over the MCT�??s. They have an even greater protein-sparing effect than the MCT�??s. And along with decreasing the formation of bodyfat, which the MCT�??s also do, they increase the amount of existing bodyfat broken down and greatly decrease bodyfat levels. A lot of people will be tempted to run down to the health food store and buy some MCT�??s to be used on this diet, but don�??t bite. They�??ll actually work against the diet in terms of muscle production and fat breakdown."

I’ll note that I do not believe the Anabolic Solution does not contain a similar warning. So have things changed? I don’t think so, but draw your own conclusion.

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Ya, I don’t supplement with MCT oil, but I don’t think cooking with a little coconut oil is a bad thing, and it can make for a tasty fish recipe.

As far as CLA recommned dose is usually around 2-6 g a day and GLA is another EFA so as long as your not deffiecient I think around 500-1000mg a day is usually recommened.

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[quote]Hagar wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
I need some help with a recent (past two week) stomach/intestinal problem while on this diet.

I’ve been following the AD for 6 weeks, and following it to a T. Everything was awesome until maybe 2 weeks ago, when I got intestinal/abdominal area cramps (between mild and severe), and a significant decrease in appetite along with bowel problems.

I just got back from the doc’s and my blood work was fine, x-rays apparently didn’t show anything, and they gave me Miralax (laxative).

Needless to say I dont have to explain the doc’s reaction when I told her the type of diet I was on; everyone thinks the AD is the cause of it, and perhaps it is, but I seriously do not want to switch back to a carb-based diet.

As for fiber, I should be eating more veggies. I do supp. with psyllium husks, about 4-6 servings a day.

My question is: has anyone experienced this, know someone who has experienced this, or even read about anything like this?? Can anyone give me some help as to what I should do?

I will try to increase my fiber to well over 30g a day and see if that helps. Besides that, I just want to know if anyone has experienced this before or can tell me if they think this is AD related or perhaps a stomach bug?

I need some help! i don’t want to change back to a carb-based diet again! Thanks!

That sucks. I never had any problems on the AD. Are you drinking enough water? Have you tried digestive enzymes or HCA? they might be worth looking into. Are you using psyllum husk for your fiber?
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I’ve been drinking only water, which is normal for me. No soda or juices of any kind. I am using psyllium husks for fiber, and realize I could be getting in more veggies. Still though, I looked online and 100g of broccoli is only like 2.6g of fiber, while one teaspoon of psyllium is 4.5

What is HCA?? Is it a digestive enzyme?

The only thing I can imagine that is causing this is not enough fiber/too much fat. I don’t know exactly how too much fat in your diet can cause abdominal pain and cause you to back up though.

I was eating 3oz of cheese everyday, and cut that out because I read it can cause constipation. I also cut out the one or two cups of coffee as well.

Maybe a good digestive enzyme is all I need. If anyone else has any tips I would greatly appreciate it!

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Cucumbers seem to keep me “regular” lol.

I discovered a pretty tasty but fat-rich way to have breakfast. Milled flax has 4.5 g of fat per serving, with 4 g of protein and 4g of fiber with ZERO Carbs. Put it in a bowl with water (like oatmeal) and heat it up in the microwave for a minute, add some splenda and then it’s like having your morning oatmeal.

But damn, I never realized how hard it is to get 27 grams of fat per meal…

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[quote]i0wny0uall wrote:
Hagar wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
I need some help with a recent (past two week) stomach/intestinal problem while on this diet.

I’ve been following the AD for 6 weeks, and following it to a T. Everything was awesome until maybe 2 weeks ago, when I got intestinal/abdominal area cramps (between mild and severe), and a significant decrease in appetite along with bowel problems.

I just got back from the doc’s and my blood work was fine, x-rays apparently didn’t show anything, and they gave me Miralax (laxative).

Needless to say I dont have to explain the doc’s reaction when I told her the type of diet I was on; everyone thinks the AD is the cause of it, and perhaps it is, but I seriously do not want to switch back to a carb-based diet.

As for fiber, I should be eating more veggies. I do supp. with psyllium husks, about 4-6 servings a day.

My question is: has anyone experienced this, know someone who has experienced this, or even read about anything like this?? Can anyone give me some help as to what I should do?

I will try to increase my fiber to well over 30g a day and see if that helps. Besides that, I just want to know if anyone has experienced this before or can tell me if they think this is AD related or perhaps a stomach bug?

I need some help! i don’t want to change back to a carb-based diet again! Thanks!

That sucks. I never had any problems on the AD. Are you drinking enough water? Have you tried digestive enzymes or HCA? they might be worth looking into. Are you using psyllum husk for your fiber?

I’ve been drinking only water, which is normal for me. No soda or juices of any kind. I am using psyllium husks for fiber, and realize I could be getting in more veggies. Still though, I looked online and 100g of broccoli is only like 2.6g of fiber, while one teaspoon of psyllium is 4.5

What is HCA?? Is it a digestive enzyme?

The only thing I can imagine that is causing this is not enough fiber/too much fat. I don’t know exactly how too much fat in your diet can cause abdominal pain and cause you to back up though.

I was eating 3oz of cheese everyday, and cut that out because I read it can cause constipation. I also cut out the one or two cups of coffee as well.

Maybe a good digestive enzyme is all I need. If anyone else has any tips I would greatly appreciate it!

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I know we’re different people but I used to double the cheese and coffee you consume and never had any problems, although I cut down on the cheese for cutting purposes. I doubt cheese could be the problem… plus its so tasty how could you cut it out hehe

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
I need some help with a recent (past two week) stomach/intestinal problem while on this diet.

I’ve been following the AD for 6 weeks, and following it to a T. Everything was awesome until maybe 2 weeks ago, when I got intestinal/abdominal area cramps (between mild and severe), and a significant decrease in appetite along with bowel problems.

I just got back from the doc’s and my blood work was fine, x-rays apparently didn’t show anything, and they gave me Miralax (laxative).

Needless to say I dont have to explain the doc’s reaction when I told her the type of diet I was on; everyone thinks the AD is the cause of it, and perhaps it is, but I seriously do not want to switch back to a carb-based diet.

As for fiber, I should be eating more veggies. I do supp. with psyllium husks, about 4-6 servings a day.

My question is: has anyone experienced this, know someone who has experienced this, or even read about anything like this?? Can anyone give me some help as to what I should do?

I will try to increase my fiber to well over 30g a day and see if that helps. Besides that, I just want to know if anyone has experienced this before or can tell me if they think this is AD related or perhaps a stomach bug?

I need some help! i don’t want to change back to a carb-based diet again! Thanks!

Try some soluble fiber like Benefiber or Fibersure. You may be getting plenty of insoluble fiber which in excess can even cause what you’re describing, but some supplemental soluble may be just the ticket to get the flora and fauna in you digestive tract blooming properly again. On the other hand it may not help at all, but this sprang to mind when I read your post.

I don’t mean to risk practicing medicine without a license, but laxatives may wind up being exactly what you don’t need as they can deplete nutrients and have the opposite effect of some soluble fiber, depending on the laxative of course.

On a much more fundamental note you ARE drinking LOTS of water right?[/quote]

Thanks for taking the time out to offer some help.

The psyllium husks are mostly soluble. 3.5g sol, 1g insoluble. Actually its kinda funny, if I don’t drink it quick enough in the water, it turns to slop bc all the water gets sucked up =)

As for the water intake, it’s literally the only thing I drink besides the occasional green tea glass here or there. I may have a glass or two of milk on the weekends but seriously, it’s 95% water and i’m constantly filling up my bottle in and out of work.

My biggest fear is that my body is just all of a sudden not liking this diet and rejecting the macro breakdown. I had absolutely no problems for the first 6 weeks; everything was awesome.

Another thing that blows is that this problem is only more fuel for others to say “see! it’s not healthy! i told you!!”

Even though, as you may have read in another post of mine, my blood work was awesome.

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[quote]nycsoccax wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
Hagar wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
I need some help with a recent (past two week) stomach/intestinal problem while on this diet.

I’ve been following the AD for 6 weeks, and following it to a T. Everything was awesome until maybe 2 weeks ago, when I got intestinal/abdominal area cramps (between mild and severe), and a significant decrease in appetite along with bowel problems.

I just got back from the doc’s and my blood work was fine, x-rays apparently didn’t show anything, and they gave me Miralax (laxative).

Needless to say I dont have to explain the doc’s reaction when I told her the type of diet I was on; everyone thinks the AD is the cause of it, and perhaps it is, but I seriously do not want to switch back to a carb-based diet.

As for fiber, I should be eating more veggies. I do supp. with psyllium husks, about 4-6 servings a day.

My question is: has anyone experienced this, know someone who has experienced this, or even read about anything like this?? Can anyone give me some help as to what I should do?

I will try to increase my fiber to well over 30g a day and see if that helps. Besides that, I just want to know if anyone has experienced this before or can tell me if they think this is AD related or perhaps a stomach bug?

I need some help! i don’t want to change back to a carb-based diet again! Thanks!

That sucks. I never had any problems on the AD. Are you drinking enough water? Have you tried digestive enzymes or HCA? they might be worth looking into. Are you using psyllum husk for your fiber?

I’ve been drinking only water, which is normal for me. No soda or juices of any kind. I am using psyllium husks for fiber, and realize I could be getting in more veggies. Still though, I looked online and 100g of broccoli is only like 2.6g of fiber, while one teaspoon of psyllium is 4.5

What is HCA?? Is it a digestive enzyme?

The only thing I can imagine that is causing this is not enough fiber/too much fat. I don’t know exactly how too much fat in your diet can cause abdominal pain and cause you to back up though.

I was eating 3oz of cheese everyday, and cut that out because I read it can cause constipation. I also cut out the one or two cups of coffee as well.

Maybe a good digestive enzyme is all I need. If anyone else has any tips I would greatly appreciate it!

I know we’re different people but I used to double the cheese and coffee you consume and never had any problems, although I cut down on the cheese for cutting purposes. I doubt cheese could be the problem… plus its so tasty how could you cut it out hehe

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I don’t think it was the cheese either, but I was in that “cut out everything that could be the cause” mode to see if I could solve the problem. Then i was going to slowly add one or two items back in.

I was really loving my cheddar cheese/pepperoni meal too…

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So can SOMEONE tell me how much protein their getting while losing bodyfat? lol…its the easiest question, yet its been ignored for the past 15 pages.

Please =D

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Well, I’m on my 4th day of the diet, and ate more of the same, lots of red meat, sausages without carbs, 2 big sacks of lettuce, eggs and burgers, and I gotta tell ya…

I’m beginning to hate it, I’m a student, and I’m buying a shitload of meat/eggs/veggies. It makes me wonder how much longer I can afford it. The taste of meat is really starting to annoy me, up to the point I’m not hungry anymore. Of course variation is the spice of life, but my only other options are meat and fish. I didn’t crash down yet, but I’m seriously wondering if I’m able to keep this lifestyle up if I already struggle.

Oh, and I gained 4 lbs, I’m around 6’1 238 lbs right now. I’d really like to be 6’1 and 240 lbs, but not with 20 % fat on my waist. Guess I’ll have a night of sleep over this one.

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I want to thank whoever recommended the 30-50 grams of BCAA before/during/after the workout. I have been doing this for the last two weeks and my strength has gone thru the roof. Further, I have gained about 10 lbs over the last three weeks with no fat gain and no change to my normal AD diet and caloric intake.

The BCAA powder is pretty nasty and doesn’t mix well in plain water, but if you mix in some crystal light, the BCAA powder mixes perfectly and you don’t even taste it. Just FYI. I put about 20g in a 1 liter water bottle with a pinch of the crystal light powder and sip it thru the workout.

Good luck bros.

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[quote]arnoud verschoor wrote:
The taste of meat is really starting to annoy me, up to the point I’m not hungry anymore. Of course variation is the spice of life, but my only other options are meat and fish. I didn’t crash down yet, but I’m seriously wondering if I’m able to keep this lifestyle up if I already struggle.
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there are more options than meat and fish on this diet. eat nuts and cheese. mix in some protein shakes. also you can eat leaner meats for a change of pace and add some fats from non-meat sources…chicken with butter, cheese, olive oil, etc.

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[quote]nycsoccax wrote:
Gymjunkie wrote:
Thanks for the reply AD…will keep the diet up for now. I guess, dropping to one carb up day, and lesser fat is inevitable when cutting anyway. I have made a plan:

320g Pro
195g Fat
60g Carbs (mostly post workout)

How is this anabolic? It says >30g, what are you confused about? If you intake 60 grams of carbs you are not on the diet.
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After some time on th AD, they say you can experiment with the %'s if you like…After some discussion with a fellow ADer who has been on it for some time, I did add some post workout carbs of maltodextrin and dextrose, which I felt aided considerably to muscle gain.

I have discontinued the postworkout carbs for the last few weeks as I am dropping the fat now. I really dont think adding these post workout carbs changed the diet to NOT been anabolic anymore…carbs do not hinder anabolism dude