My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]greekdawg wrote:
Hagar wrote:
Florida Titan wrote:
The Anabolic Solution does have anything in it about MCTs. I got jipped there. Would you please explain why he advises against them?

What are good daily recommendations for GLA and CLA?

Yep its in the Anabolic Diet book but its just half a page. Lets see if I can explain. I can’t get too scientific though. In a nut shell MTCs bypasses the metabolic pathways you are trying to establish on the AD. Also long chain triglycerides will have a better protein sparing effect over MTCs. On a regular diet MTCs work well with carbs and on a ketogenic diet they work great for energy since they’re easily converted to ketones. Finally the Doc states MTCs will work against protein synthesis and body fat breakdown on the AD. Check out page 63 if you ever get a copy (ptss torrent);)…

I’m torn about MCTs. Coconut oil has alot of good health benefits. I don’t use straight MCT oil, I use coconut oil. I only use it for first meal upon rising. From what I understand, it’s not a good idea to use fish oil for your first meal because it might get used for fuel since its the first meal of the day. So I only use the coconut oil for the first meal.

What do others think of this? Where is Disc Hoss when you need him or Il Cazzo when you need them?
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I don’t think there is any real debate on this: MCTs are bad on the AD. Reason being that it’s another energy substrate that will detract from the body’s preferential burning of LCTs, ie, body fat. Similar rationale as to why consuming alcohol is bad on the AD… or any fat burning focused diet.

DH talked about this about 10000 posts ago.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
arnoud verschoor wrote:
My third day:

-3 packs of salami
-2 small steaks
-10 mini sausages
-3 tartar steaks (whatever)
-2 irish steaks
-4 fish oil caps
-a cucumber

Not really anything new, I’m craving carbohydrates and sugar though, I swear that candy is calling me…

More veggies and more EFA’s[/quote]

My bad, EFA’s?

[quote]arnoud verschoor wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
arnoud verschoor wrote:
My third day:

-3 packs of salami
-2 small steaks
-10 mini sausages
-3 tartar steaks (whatever)
-2 irish steaks
-4 fish oil caps
-a cucumber

Not really anything new, I’m craving carbohydrates and sugar though, I swear that candy is calling me…

More veggies and more EFA’s

My bad, EFA’s?[/quote]

Essential Fatty Acids, ie, omega 3s and 6s.

Although you’re really lacking in polys and mono-unsats overall.

Be careful of sausage, they can contain hidden carbs.

Essential fatty acids^

Hey Hagar, what brand BCAA’s do you use? The cheapest I’ve found I think is Supplement Direct. Just curious which brand of powder you throw back

Thanks for the feedback, I thought the fish oil caps and the olive oil (which I didn’t mention) took care of the essential fatty acids?

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Essential fatty acids^

Hey Hagar, what brand BCAA’s do you use? The cheapest I’ve found I think is Supplement Direct. Just curious which brand of powder you throw back[/quote]

I’ve used few. I don’t like NOW since its hard to mix in water. Nutrition Geeks sells 1000 grams by Scifit for $45.95 and it dissolves in room temperature water. Thats a smoke’n deal IMO so I ordered 2 kilos. With all these BCAAs I’m bumping up my intake to 35 to 40 grams during my w/o. Add in just a bit of crystal light and it doesn’t taste as horrible.

[quote]thegreatone wrote:
Anyone have a copy of the ebook The Anabolic Solution for PL or BB they wouldn’t mind sharing? I really would like to read it.

Thanks I appreciate any help! [/quote]

I bought a version, just called “The Anabolic Diet” off of ebay for $2. It’s 100 page pdf file.

quick question…

2T of ground up flaxseed = 4g carb and 4g fiber… so is this is a wash or do i count the carbs against my 30g?

Thanks.

[quote]arnoud verschoor wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, I thought the fish oil caps and the olive oil (which I didn’t mention) took care of the essential fatty acids?[/quote]

Those are good sources of EFAs. But 4 fishoil caps and a couple teaspoons of olive oil probably isn’t going to cut it–especially for DHA/EPA. I don’t know what your totals are though, so just figure out if you’re getting ~60% of total cals from fat, and that your fats are roughly, equally divided between sats, monos and polys (I think it’s okay to be a bit heavy on sats, but that’s just my opinion).

[quote]bino wrote:
arnoud verschoor wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, I thought the fish oil caps and the olive oil (which I didn’t mention) took care of the essential fatty acids?

Those are good sources of EFAs. But 4 fishoil caps and a couple teaspoons of olive oil probably isn’t going to cut it–especially for DHA/EPA. I don’t know what your totals are though, so just figure out if you’re getting ~60% of total cals from fat, and that your fats are roughly, equally divided between sats, monos and polys (I think it’s okay to be a bit heavy on sats, but that’s just my opinion). [/quote]

I do along with all of this.

[quote]bino wrote:

I don’t think there is any real debate on this: MCTs are bad on the AD. Reason being that it’s another energy substrate that will detract from the body’s preferential burning of LCTs, ie, body fat. Similar rationale as to why consuming alcohol is bad on the AD… or any fat burning focused diet.

DH talked about this about 10000 posts ago.

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Even coconut oil?

[quote]shoelessjones wrote:
quick question…

2T of ground up flaxseed = 4g carb and 4g fiber… so is this is a wash or do i count the carbs against my 30g?

Thanks.[/quote]

It’s a wash

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
franchise95p wrote:
So I either got a bug, or I definitely hit my transition last night. Complete body aches, tired as all get-out, dull, constant headache, and my stomach was all jacked up. I had no appetite. I forced dinner down my throat & skipped the gym.

Today I’ve rested quite a bit, and am starting to feel much better. This was definitely like a flu/hang-over combo.

If you’re between about day 5 and 10 that’s it.[/quote]

Days 8 & 9.

One thing about this diet is freaking killing me…gum. All the gum I usually chew has at least 1g carbs per stick. Does anybody know of any carb-free gum out there?

So I’m on day 3 and I’ve kept my carbs to:

21
18
26

It’s sucking badly, but I’m gonna make it.

5’7 and 1/2 weigh 185 at 12-16% BF.

Trying to use this diet to lose fat, once fat adapted, and when satisfied with fat loss use it to gain muscle mass without gaining the fat that Carb diets cause.

You can add me to the list, day 3, and the 12 days should be a breeze (craving-wise)–not much different than my regular diet, except I had to greatly increase my fat and calories, and drop the non-fat yogurt, oatmeal and fruit (bananas and strawberries) from my protein shakes. Now, I just use 8oz. Diet Green Tea, 2tbsp. Extra Virgin Olive Oil, and 35g. whey protein, with only 4.5 carbs per…

everything else is pretty much the same. The carb loading will be new, but I’ll keep it pretty clean b/c I want to continue to lose bf, even though I’m already down to around 10%.

I just hope that a carb-refeed is enough to get in fruits that I don’t take in during the week.

[quote]franchise95p wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
franchise95p wrote:
So I either got a bug, or I definitely hit my transition last night. Complete body aches, tired as all get-out, dull, constant headache, and my stomach was all jacked up. I had no appetite. I forced dinner down my throat & skipped the gym.

Today I’ve rested quite a bit, and am starting to feel much better. This was definitely like a flu/hang-over combo.

If you’re between about day 5 and 10 that’s it.

Days 8 & 9.

One thing about this diet is freaking killing me…gum. All the gum I usually chew has at least 1g carbs per stick. Does anybody know of any carb-free gum out there?

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You know those gum packs that have the push-out pieces instead of the Orbit or Extra-style packaging? Well, those push-out piece packs are usually 2.5 calories per piece. 1, 2, or even 3 pieces of Orbit will not mess you up though.

im on week 4 and im cutting down too 1500 cals a day. i weigh 133
i also had a short carb up last weekend at 500 g carbs or so- mostly healthy.
the problem is, is that i have massive headached each day now and i can’t lift as much in the gym.
any suggestions? has anyone else dealt with this while cutting?

do you think i should carb up more. i barley have any energy by wednesday.

oh and i only gained about 1.5 lbs from my carb up this weekend (i carbbed up on saturday and re-weighed on sunday)

SPAM is actually pretty good! thankyou A.D.