Ok quick question, after the initial startup phase with the 30 grams of carbs max, what is the carb intake allowed after those first 2 weeks? 3-5% of total calories can be carbs or still stick to 30 grams max of carbs?
LM
You know crashing is not necessary for the diet to work right?
I never really crashed when I made the switch and every so often when I do the 12 days induction phase again, I never crash.
The only time I feel like shit is when I don’t get enough fat.
[quote]OMC wrote:
If you don’t crash its because somewhere carbs were sneaking into your diet…or you may be one of the very…very few who won’t crash . Another possibility is your previous diet. Was it low carb?? Based on non starch polysaccharides like broccholi sprouts etc.
Regardless if you don’t crash I’d say just continue on anyway as the crash is jsut a quick way to get your metabolism kicked towards fat burning. It’ll happen eventually regardless and is worth sticking it out for.
OMC
InTheZone wrote:
Hey guys, good morning.
Day 10 for me with no crash in site. I am feeling a lot of energy in the mornings now, like a lot of other guys said, I just pop out of bed now, and that definitely wasn’t the case before.
I feel great, so I hope everythings going ok, some guys took longer to feel the crash I saw on the earlier part of the thread. I am leveled out as far as weight at 190.
Alpha, I usually lose in this order, chin, chest, waist. I’m pretty lean right now, but am looking forward to getting REALLY lean after transition when I cut back some fat cal. I still have a few inches to melt on the ol gut to see abs w/out flexing them.
Well, I am enjoying the lifestyle, would be nice to grab a few carbs this weekend though. Friday will be 13 days, GUYS: should I carb up even if I haven’t “felt” a real crash?
I know that’s the main tell tale sign of flippin the switch, so I was curious if you have to experience it or not…
Thanks for any help.
ToneBone
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[quote]ovalpline wrote:
LOL Biz, your reasoning here is like swiss cheese and is little more than a self-affirmation.
I am going to recommend that you stick to computer programming rather than anthropological musings.[/quote]
LOL. Yeah, I gotta agree. Just another Just So Story.
I wouldn’t begin to say that I could sit down and just type out C++. That stuff takes great time and effort to learn.
Why do people then think they can sit down with a blunt and come with an evolutionary theory of eating?
Seriously. Most of the shit about the Irish that people eat are just stuff people have speculated about. It’s all speculation. Yet people treat it as truth because it has some intuitive appeal.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
ovalpline wrote:
LOL Biz, your reasoning here is like swiss cheese and is little more than a self-affirmation.
I am going to recommend that you stick to computer programming rather than anthropological musings.
LOL. Yeah, I gotta agree. Just another Just So Story.
I wouldn’t begin to say that I could sit down and just type out C++. That stuff takes great time and effort to learn.
Why do people then think they can sit down with a blunt and come with an evolutionary theory of eating?
Seriously. Most of the shit about the Irish that people eat are just stuff people have speculated about. It’s all speculation. Yet people treat it as truth because it has some intuitive appeal.[/quote]
Needless to say, does it matter what I think at ALL about the Irish? How is me thinking that the Irish may have lower tolerance to carbs affect ANYTHING at all. I mean seriously, what exactly does it affect. Will you change your training and diet because of it? Will you change anything about your life? If it does cause changes in your life then please let me know so that I can feel good that I made a difference by THINKING THE IRISH MAY HAVE A LOWER CARB TOLERANCE THAN OTHER PEOPLE (oh yeah, did I mention that Poliquin stated it in the past?)
I see no reason why ovalpline felt he needed to put down what I was saying, but it pissed me off too. I was simply suggesting something, trying to share a view that I have, which may or may not be right, and it was shot down. Normally I agree with ovalpline on most everything but in this case he lowered himself to your level CLaw.
In fact, the only reason all this started was because some of us were throwing out ideas for the reason that InTheZone isn’t crashing during the 2 week induction.
This is my last post on this website. Good luck to all the new AD’ers. Don’t spend to much time brooding over this forum, using torrents can get you tons of information too (hint hint).
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
ovalpline wrote:
LOL Biz, your reasoning here is like swiss cheese and is little more than a self-affirmation.
I am going to recommend that you stick to computer programming rather than anthropological musings.
LOL. Yeah, I gotta agree. Just another Just So Story.
I wouldn’t begin to say that I could sit down and just type out C++. That stuff takes great time and effort to learn.
Why do people then think they can sit down with a blunt and come with an evolutionary theory of eating?
Seriously. Most of the shit about the Irish that people eat are just stuff people have speculated about. It’s all speculation. Yet people treat it as truth because it has some intuitive appeal.
Needless to say, does it matter what I think at ALL about the Irish? How is me thinking that the Irish may have lower tolerance to carbs affect ANYTHING at all. I mean seriously, what exactly does it affect. Will you change your training and diet because of it? Will you change anything about your life? If it does cause changes in your life then please let me know so that I can feel good that I made a difference by THINKING THE IRISH MAY HAVE A LOWER CARB TOLERANCE THAN OTHER PEOPLE (oh yeah, did I mention that Poliquin stated it in the past?)
I see no reason why ovalpline felt he needed to put down what I was saying, but it pissed me off too. I was simply suggesting something, trying to share a view that I have, which may or may not be right, and it was shot down. Normally I agree with ovalpline on most everything but in this case he lowered himself to your level CLaw.
In fact, the only reason all this started was because some of us were throwing out ideas for the reason that InTheZone isn’t crashing during the 2 week induction.
This is my last post on this website. Good luck to all the new AD’ers. Don’t spend to much time brooding over this forum, using torrents can get you tons of information too (hint hint).[/quote]
bye Biz
Holiday and the AD.
Hi guys, im going on holiday to Spain in afew weeks (it WILL be a party week!).
Trying to decide if I should stick to the Ad while there… or just have a free week and eat what I want.
I can probably bring protein and get enough food to eat AD but it might be very difficult.
Do I need to keep anything in mind if I don’t stick to AD? will my body layer on the fat if I eat loads and loads of carbs all week? or will it be ok?
By the time of my holidya i will have been on the AD for 6 months…so pretty established I think.
Cheers
Don’t worry about it. You may not feel 100% depending on exatly how your eating but it won’t set you back too much. And before any1 asks…no a 12 day induction is not necessary again.
OMC
Oh and have a great holiday
[quote]BrotherO wrote:
Holiday and the AD.
Hi guys, im going on holiday to Spain in afew weeks (it WILL be a party week!).
Trying to decide if I should stick to the Ad while there… or just have a free week and eat what I want.
I can probably bring protein and get enough food to eat AD but it might be very difficult.
Do I need to keep anything in mind if I don’t stick to AD? will my body layer on the fat if I eat loads and loads of carbs all week? or will it be ok?
By the time of my holidya i will have been on the AD for 6 months…so pretty established I think.
Cheers[/quote]
Well I think that it isn’t a very general theory and has more to do with regions of the world rather than individual countries. Since the Celts were involved with both countries I would imagine the tolerance would be very similar.
I’m Irish BUT poliquins biosignature tests labled me as carb tolerant. So with regards to the AD, my max carb intake was higher than 30g on low carb days. I also would heavily use fast carbs in PWO shakes. If you wanna find out for yourself…get a poliquin biosignature test done I suppose.
OMC
[quote]Hagar wrote:
OMC wrote:
It has been a while since I’ve read up on this since I’m not currently following the AD but I seem to remember reading Mauro’s experience being of very rare non crash instances. of course I may be wrong. Still either way it is not a big deal.
If your body prefers fats to such an extent all I can say is…you lucky bastard. This diet has you made if you follow it well.
Oh by the way I’m Irish and apparently genetics has a role to play with carb tolerance but it stretches back centuries rather than decades. Its in one of Poliquins more recent articles if anyone is interested.
OMC
I’m interested, Is there a big diff between genetically between Irish and English? [/quote]
Wicked thanks man!..just what I wanted to hear anyway! And I think I deserve it! hehe
[quote]OMC wrote:
Don’t worry about it. You may not feel 100% depending on exatly how your eating but it won’t set you back too much. And before any1 asks…no a 12 day induction is not necessary again.
OMC
Oh and have a great holiday
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Thanks OMC
Is it normal to feel like crap on the first week after the first carb load?
Hi all,
Im two days away from my first carbup weekend. So 11 days into my transition period. Im so fatiqued and have been for the last week. Also my training poundages are going down. When will I start to feel better?
Should I still do the carb up weekend or extend my transition period. If carbing up this weekend should I then go to the 5 days low carb and weekend carbups or do the transition again?
Thanks.
anyone able to tell me what carb intake should be after the 2 week induction phase during weekdays, not on carb loads on weekends?
[quote]Arrow22 wrote:
Is it normal to feel like crap on the first week after the first carb load?[/quote]
Can you define “crap” in specifics?
i.e.
No energy
Bloated feeling
Retaining water
Physically weak
Mentally foggy etc…
[quote]kasper2133 wrote:
Hi all,
Im two days away from my first carbup weekend. So 11 days into my transition period. Im so fatiqued and have been for the last week. Also my training poundages are going down. When will I start to feel better?
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Are you eating enough? Too much?
Have you tried fluctuating your calories?
Do you feel better/worse with more/less calories?
Are you getting sufficient fat intake from good sources?
If you’ve completed the 12 day induction, then yes you do need to carb-up. It’s very necessary in fact.
Then proceed with the 5/2 protocol.
Repeating the 12 day induction at this stage will do nothing for you. It may even just leave you feeling further defeated and depleted…not a good idea.
peace
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
anyone able to tell me what carb intake should be after the 2 week induction phase during weekdays, not on carb loads on weekends?[/quote]
In case you’re actually serious, if you’re asking what the very most basic principle of this diet is, you should read some of the thread or get the book.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
anyone able to tell me what carb intake should be after the 2 week induction phase during weekdays, not on carb loads on weekends?[/quote]
You should stay relatively close to 30gr per day.
If this leaves you feeling punk, you may begin to creep up towards 50 grams a day (etc…) -but the lower you stay the better.
Of course this is all highly individualistic -the beauty of the AD -but it’s probably a good idea to stick to Dr. DiPas’ protocol for assessment.
He goes into great detail in the book.
Follow the book for best results.
peace
Hey PauliD,
I’m on day 12 and have a pretty massive headache right now, but have felt pretty good overall. I am going to wait till Saturday and carb up.
There have been a couple times I didn’t feel that good, just kind of weird, almost didn’t want to eat, but then did and felt better.
I guess I’m on schedule here.
Have been running the calories up to 3200 a little over the 3000 mark. I’m ready to drop the fat cals down after this weekend. maybe even starting today to around 2500 cals.
Anyway, how does this sound to you big guy?
best, ToneBone
[quote]allNatural wrote:
In case you’re actually serious, if you’re asking what the very most basic principle of this diet is, you should read some of the thread or get the book.
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I’ve read the book and a good portion of this thread. I was somewhat confused because it said between 5-8% of total diet carbs but than 30 grams max on the side. So I didn’t know if that 30 grams max was only in the introductor 2 weeks and you could let it be a little higher after that or what not. No need to get your panties in a bunch.
Thanks for answering my question pauli.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
allNatural wrote:
In case you’re actually serious, if you’re asking what the very most basic principle of this diet is, you should read some of the thread or get the book.
No need to get your panties in a bunch.
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Where did this come from? I geniunely thought you were joking since you said you were on the diet. Sorry.