My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Ok, so:Steady ramp the cals without huge jumps. Dont rely on scale weight, use mirror and tape measure (I dont have a reliable body fat testing method).
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I forgot to add: Take progress pics. Really. Take them every two to four weeks. Take the same poses. I do the following:

  1. Front relaxed (but not with the gut distended like you often see in “before” pics)
  2. Back relaxed (you can’t hide back fat!)
  3. Front double bi
  4. Back double bi
  5. Back lat
  6. Front quads

Some take side views. I don’t, as that requires more posing skill than I have or care to acquire. Add in other poses, too. It doesn’t matter. What matters is that you take the same poses over the course of several months or years.

Assuming you work hard, your progress pics will provide you much entertainment and inspiration.

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What do you guys think about running Sesamin and TTA while on the Anabolic Diet? Being that Sesamin is a potent fatty-acid oxidizer, do you feel it could possibly aid in the transition phase of going from being a carb burner to a fat burner?

Thanks

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I’m really starting to think this diet rocks. Benched 290x7x3sets today. I’m moving my weight up 10 to 15lbs a week till I reach my max. I hope to bench 405lbs raw within a few months. I also seem to look a little bit more vascular today so it seems body fat might be dropping a little.

At 340g pro a day and 180 to 200g fat. I was planning on counting carbs this weekend but had 2 friends come into town and ate out a bunch, pizza, Chinese, and um um Brazilian food. I only slept 1 hour on Saturday night then went to a photo shoot for a big UFC guy and slept on the couch for an hour at Legends Gym here in hollywood.

This morning I was sooo tired I went to my classes then came home ate a whole bunch of eggs and laied down for a bit. Then I drank a cup of coffee took 12 fish oil caps and went to the gym and had a great workout.

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I found out a good trick today from a guy at the gym. Take your BCAA’s and put them in a water bottle. Then add some hot water wait 30 min and it will dissolve. You can add some crystal light for taste.

I usually take 20g to 30g and put it in a sandwich bag to be gradually taken over the coarse of my workout. People will look at me funny when reach in my pocket and pull out what looks like a big bag of cocaine. I really hope this hot water thing works I’d hate to leave the gym in handcuffs.

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      Ha,ha. That's good.

Hey Hagar, nice job on the bench numbers dude. Sounds like you’re really on a roll now. I’m still in limbo here at day 9. Lookin forward to the crash.

      Keep up the good work in the gym bro.    later from one guitar shredhead to another! Ibanez rock.
         ToneBone
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Hey all, great thread. I’m on week 3 for my 2nd cycle on AD.

Does anyone who is involved with endurance sports use AD ?
For example would AD be terrible or great for someone who is training for long distance running?

My idea of long distance is to the fridge and back for protein+fats, but I am curious if anyone in the above position has tried AD and if the science is for or against it.

I know tradition says carbs for long distance, but we all know how well we can trust tradition.

thanks

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[quote]ReklaW wrote:
Hey all, great thread. I’m on week 3 for my 2nd cycle on AD.

Does anyone who is involved with endurance sports use AD ?
For example would AD be terrible or great for someone who is training for long distance running?

My idea of long distance is to the fridge and back for protein+fats, but I am curious if anyone in the above position has tried AD and if the science is for or against it.

I know tradition says carbs for long distance, but we all know how well we can trust tradition.

thanks[/quote]

Here is one man’s take:
www.gymjones.com/knowledge.php?id=17

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
ReklaW wrote:
Hey all, great thread. I’m on week 3 for my 2nd cycle on AD.

Does anyone who is involved with endurance sports use AD ?
For example would AD be terrible or great for someone who is training for long distance running?

My idea of long distance is to the fridge and back for protein+fats, but I am curious if anyone in the above position has tried AD and if the science is for or against it.

I know tradition says carbs for long distance, but we all know how well we can trust tradition.

thanks

Here is one man’s take:
www.gymjones.com/knowledge.php?id=17[/quote]

damn being a waiter blows on thisdiet…hours without eating bussing tables all day really kills energy levels…but nothing a nice steak cant fix :smiley: god bless the AD

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I read the book some, and I did a lot of thinking, and I’m really just messing myself up here.

I’m trying to follow both the t-dawg 2.0 and the AD. I’m realizing the diets are too different; the PWO Surge, one day of carb ups, no induction phase of the t-dawg simply does not fit with the >30g carbs 5 days, two day carb up , 12-16 day “break in” start of the AD.

I’m stuck between sticking with the t-dawg and going to the AD. I’m just going to have to continue weighing everything out, I guess.

I’m sorry if this question has been asked repeatedly here, but:

In your experience, has not having a carb/protein PWO shake been a significant detriment to your progress in the gym?[/quote]

Look…because the “rules” are different on the AD, you don’t have to follow the dogma that everyone else says you have to do normally.

If you want PWO shake, make a low carb protein shake with some creatine.

Then eat a meal an hour later.

That’s PLENTY of PWO cals and stuff.

AD

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[quote]ReklaW wrote:
Hey all, great thread. I’m on week 3 for my 2nd cycle on AD.

Does anyone who is involved with endurance sports use AD ?
For example would AD be terrible or great for someone who is training for long distance running?

My idea of long distance is to the fridge and back for protein+fats, but I am curious if anyone in the above position has tried AD and if the science is for or against it.

I know tradition says carbs for long distance, but we all know how well we can trust tradition.

thanks[/quote]

Let’s just say that last night I was riding my bike home but for at least 50% of the time I was unconsciously racing cars and busses and keeping up (even uphills to an extent) without even trying.

Now, they do drive substantially slower here, but still… :wink:

AD

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Greetings All!
I just started the AD Friday after a Looooooong hiatus. I had success with it in the past (10years ago) and I have high hopes this time around.

My question is as follows: I am totally detrained (320lbs. @34%BF, haven’t exercised AT ALL for over 4 years) can anyone recomend or post a link for an acceptable training protocol for someone in my position?
Many thanks!

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[quote]BigWillyStyle wrote:
My question is as follows: I am totally detrained (320lbs. @34%BF, haven’t exercised AT ALL for over 4 years) can anyone recomend or post a link for an acceptable training protocol for someone in my position?
Many thanks![/quote]

Just show up at least three days a week for a few weeks. Do something. It doesn’t matter what.

Really.

Do that for a few weeks before worrying about any training program.

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[quote]BigWillyStyle wrote:
Greetings All!
I just started the AD Friday after a Looooooong hiatus. I had success with it in the past (10years ago) and I have high hopes this time around.

My question is as follows: I am totally detrained (320lbs. @34%BF, haven’t exercised AT ALL for over 4 years) can anyone recomend or post a link for an acceptable training protocol for someone in my position?
Many thanks![/quote]

Don’t take this the wrong way, dude, but absolutely anything on this site would do you good. Heck, anything would do you good.

DH, our resident AD guru posted something a few pages back that I think would be very appropriate for you, though (as long as you diet properly):

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=658379&pageNo=214

It’s like the 13th post down or somewhere close.

But I’d suggest doing the break-in first b4 you do this workout. Maybe just go to the gym in the first 14 days and do whatever you want (gasp…yes, AlphaDragon said that blasphemy…:stuck_out_tongue: ). Seriously, just get used to exercising moderately at first while you become fat-adapted, then do what DH posted on the link above and you should be good to go.

my .02
AD

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On the subject of losing weight:

When dieting, what is the order of body parts that you all seem to lose weight from first and up until last?

Personally, I’m losing weight in my shoulders and arms first, my calves and legs second. It seems my stomach is the last thing to be affected…and with everything else leaning out, the ol’ gut looks worse than ever. :stuck_out_tongue:

Just curious as to everyone elses experience.

AD

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       Hey guys, good morning.

Day 10 for me with no crash in site. I am feeling a lot of energy in the mornings now, like a lot of other guys said, I just pop out of bed now, and that definitely wasn’t the case before.

I feel great, so I hope everythings going ok, some guys took longer to feel the crash I saw on the earlier part of the thread. I am leveled out as far as weight at 190.

Alpha, I usually lose in this order, chin, chest, waist. I’m pretty lean right now, but am looking forward to getting REALLY lean after transition when I cut back some fat cal. I still have a few inches to melt on the ol gut to see abs w/out flexing them.

Well, I am enjoying the lifestyle, would be nice to grab a few carbs this weekend though. Friday will be 13 days, GUYS: should I carb up even if I haven’t “felt” a real crash?

I know that’s the main tell tale sign of flippin the switch, so I was curious if you have to experience it or not…
Thanks for any help.
ToneBone

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[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
Personally, I’m losing weight in my shoulders and arms first, my calves and legs second. It seems my stomach is the last thing to be affected[/quote]

Ditto.

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[quote]InTheZone wrote:

       Hey guys, good morning.

Day 10 for me with no crash in site. I am feeling a lot of energy in the mornings now, like a lot of other guys said, I just pop out of bed now, and that definitely wasn’t the case before.

I feel great, so I hope everythings going ok, some guys took longer to feel the crash I saw on the earlier part of the thread. I am leveled out as far as weight at 190.

Alpha, I usually lose in this order, chin, chest, waist. I’m pretty lean right now, but am looking forward to getting REALLY lean after transition when I cut back some fat cal. I still have a few inches to melt on the ol gut to see abs w/out flexing them.

Well, I am enjoying the lifestyle, would be nice to grab a few carbs this weekend though. Friday will be 13 days, GUYS: should I carb up even if I haven’t “felt” a real crash?

I know that’s the main tell tale sign of flippin the switch, so I was curious if you have to experience it or not…
Thanks for any help.
ToneBone[/quote]

Maybe your body likes fats better, so you don’t have to go through a crash. Sometimes that happens.

Or you might be getting raped by hidden carbs… check your labels.

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something truely tragic happened today…could barely budge my deadlift…40lbs below my max…it may be my new regime…i havnt gotten enough to eat and sleep the past few days because of my new job and i changed my workouts to a pyramid scheme adding weight till i hit a peak and then work back down to start finishing with a ‘feeder’ set…but yea im worried about my deadlift its my cornerstone :frowning:

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    Hey Biz,

I don’t think it’s the carbs gettin me as I’m pretty anal about them and watch for any hidden shit like a hawk.

I know my body doesn’t like carbs, I can gain fat very fast with just moderate carb ingestion, and you could be right.
Maybe this is what it’s been asking for, for a long time…

    I am feeling fine with Friday coming soon, for the carb up. I will give it even one more day so I'm on track to carb up on the weekends.

  I am going to continue cutting after "adapted" so I was wondering:

How many of you carb up for 36 hours vs. the full 48 with better results for losing fat. That’s probably what I’ll do to insure that I don’t overcompensate or slow down fat loss progress.
Any thoughts?

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[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Hey Biz,
I don’t think it’s the carbs gettin me as I’m pretty anal about them and watch for any hidden shit like a hawk.

I know my body doesn’t like carbs, I can gain fat very fast with just moderate carb ingestion, and you could be right.
Maybe this is what it’s been asking for, for a long time…

    I am feeling fine with Friday coming soon, for the carb up. I will give it even one more day so I'm on track to carb up on the weekends.

  I am going to continue cutting after "adapted" so I was wondering:

How many of you carb up for 36 hours vs. the full 48 with better results for losing fat. That’s probably what I’ll do to insure that I don’t overcompensate or slow down fat loss progress.
Any thoughts?
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Well… I actually carbload for about 6 hours twice a week. I do it at night because carbs brain fuck me to sleep. For a while I was just doing a 1 day carbup, I’d start when I woke up and then stop when I went to sleep, then that was it for carbs for that week.

I’ve been toying with trying a carbup every other week, kinda like the get shredded diet, but I’m pretty happy doing what I’ve been doing. I’m down to 10% bf and the abs are showing alright. Gonna get very low bf this summer though, probably around 5%, then work my ass off to keep it for a few months before adding muscle again.

But I’ve tried 36 hour carbups, they are alright, I prefer shorter ones myself. Just test it out for a while and see, as long as you don’t go over 48hours you should be fine and able to stay fat adapted.

Alot of people recommend sticking to the diet exactly how it says for a couple months, I didn’t do that because of how much I hated carbups. After my first 48 hour carbup I knew that wasn’t for me so I shrunk the length to 36 hours, then 1 day, and now to what I’m at. Just test stuff out and see what works.