[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Awwwww…
DH and Il Cazzo bantering back and forth…why it’s enough to make my ole’ heart go pitter-patter
…for those of you who DON’T know…class is now in session.
Pay attention.
peace[/quote]
For real
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
im ramping my calories to w/e i eat now because i wanna get some mass. sadly enough ive never done a mass phase before however my lifts are all up to par fo rmy weight i suppose…165lbs…170 bench, 320 dead, 300squat…but is it normal to see my tummy swell like that of a drunk after saint pattys day? and is 800 cals too much for a PWO/before bed shake?[/quote]
Tummy blowing up = normal. You are putting in more carbs, ie more voluminous food. Also carbs tend to cause more gas.
800 cal PWO shake? Depends how draining the workout was. That is a pretty substantial shake, though. What % of your cals for that day?
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
But, I think starting off with better carbs (oatmeal) and finishing up on faster things (fruit loops, damn it) would be ok. [/quote]
I was wondering about this as I’ve heard both: (1) start with higher GI carbs and work your way toward lower GI carb as the day and carb-load passes (2) use higher GI carbs as your carb-load is coming to an end.
I understand the first statement, but I’m a little unclear as to the second. Could you shed some light on this?
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
im ramping my calories to w/e i eat now because i wanna get some mass. sadly enough ive never done a mass phase before however my lifts are all up to par fo rmy weight i suppose…165lbs…170 bench, 320 dead, 300squat…but is it normal to see my tummy swell like that of a drunk after saint pattys day? and is 800 cals too much for a PWO/before bed shake?[/quote]
I think 800 calories is overly large for a given meal regardless of time of day. As you know, your better bet is to eat smaller, more frequent meals.
Having a large meal postworkout will probably do less damage BF wise, but it’s still better to more evenly distribute your calories. You know that…
[quote]ovalpline wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
im ramping my calories to w/e i eat now because i wanna get some mass. sadly enough ive never done a mass phase before however my lifts are all up to par fo rmy weight i suppose…165lbs…170 bench, 320 dead, 300squat…but is it normal to see my tummy swell like that of a drunk after saint pattys day? and is 800 cals too much for a PWO/before bed shake?
I think 800 calories is overly large for a given meal regardless of time of day. As you know, your better bet is to eat smaller, more frequent meals.
Having a large meal postworkout will probably do less damage BF wise, but it’s still better to more evenly distribute your calories. You know that…[/quote]
While I’d agree with this, I’ll still remind people that when you’re bulking and if we’re eating 4000 cals a day (divided by 5 meals) is still 800 cals/meal. Moreso if you’re on 5000/day and so on.
Blkmacky: I suggest consuming maybe 100 during the workout, then post workout do maybe 200 of those calories and then wait an hour and do the other 500. If you wanted to do pre-workout as well, take 100 or so off of the last meal and consume it before the workout. Just a thought.
And IMHO, that is wayyyyy too many for a before bed shake…unless you mean, like 2-3 hours before bed that is.
AD
I’m trying to acclimate myself to the AD again after one botched attempt a month or so ago. I started the 12 day induction period anew on the 4th (Wed) of this month instead of the 2nd (Mon).
Should I still go through with my carb up when I wake in the morning, or? I imagine so, but I just wanted to check here first.
[quote]ovalpline wrote:
I think 800 calories is overly large for a given meal regardless of time of day. As you know, your better bet is to eat smaller, more frequent meals. [/quote]
The primary reason to eat smaller meals is due to the need to control insulin secretion. On the AD, insulin is mostly out of the picture. Thus, eating larger meals isn’t a problem at all.
I must say that the diet gets easier every week. I could do it standing on my head.
I forgot that last week I carbed-up on Friday. (I usually do Saturday carb-ups.) So I didn’t eat any carbs today… didn’t give it any mind. If the carb-up weren’t necessary, I’d likely skip it this week.
I look forward to carbs less and less. I’m not excited to know that in a few hours, I get to eat buckwheat pancakes w/strawberries and maple syrup. Once I start eating them, though… that’s another story.
I hit 206 today. That’s the lowest I’ve weighed in several years. Fat loss had stalled, however, until I introduced a mega dose of fish oil into my diet ten days ago. Has made a huge difference.
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
I just skimmed again, but I don’t see anythign about a break in period. I know with the V-Diet, you just go all out from the get go. The shock of it all might be the biggest plus…guess you’ll have to try it and find out.
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Right on … I was thinking of jumping right in and see what happens. Promised myself I’d go do some cutting. See where I go energy-wise/workout-wise and maybe make it a one week on, one week off-thing, keeping my body surprised.
Thanks a lot DH, and I think I will do a more even number of calories throughout the week. I find it hard to get 4000 calories in on weekends but a breeze during the week with some protein shakes with whipping cream.
You mentioned somewhere in the main forum not participating much anymore but at least in this thread everyone loves to hear your thoughts on subjects so don’t be a stranger.
[quote]LVZzed wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
I just skimmed again, but I don’t see anythign about a break in period. I know with the V-Diet, you just go all out from the get go. The shock of it all might be the biggest plus…guess you’ll have to try it and find out.
Right on … I was thinking of jumping right in and see what happens. Promised myself I’d go do some cutting. See where I go energy-wise/workout-wise and maybe make it a one week on, one week off-thing, keeping my body surprised.
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I think that would be interesting…the only change I’d make is to go sunday-sunday. So, if you do your 2,000 calorie, high carb day on saturday, come back on sunday @ lowcarbs/cals, then transition to normalacy on monday. That’s just my opinion tho, I have nothing to back that up.
What is a zinger? Why was I not informed that these exist? I want answers, damn it.
DH, I don’t get the swelling problem, i just get bloated to the point where I think I’d float in the Dead Sea.
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
What is a zinger? Why was I not informed that these exist? I want answers, damn it.
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…Zingers are like Twinkies’ younger brother…All fired up -a little wild, a lot of fun and a bit on the crazy side.
Imagine a Twinkie with no inhibitions…
[quote]Pauli D wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
What is a zinger? Why was I not informed that these exist? I want answers, damn it.
…Zingers are like Twinkies’ younger brother…All fired up -a little wild, a lot of fun and a bit on the crazy side.
Imagine a Twinkie with no inhibitions…
;)[/quote]
Hmmm where could one find said snackcake? I looked at acme this morning but no luck.
[quote]sharetrader wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
im ramping my calories to w/e i eat now because i wanna get some mass. sadly enough ive never done a mass phase before however my lifts are all up to par fo rmy weight i suppose…165lbs…170 bench, 320 dead, 300squat…but is it normal to see my tummy swell like that of a drunk after saint pattys day? and is 800 cals too much for a PWO/before bed shake?
Tummy blowing up = normal. You are putting in more carbs, ie more voluminous food. Also carbs tend to cause more gas.
800 cal PWO shake? Depends how draining the workout was. That is a pretty substantial shake, though. What % of your cals for that day?[/quote]
its just abput 1/3 of my daily calories but it is my pwo and before bed shake since i usually workout late and go to bed soon after
[quote]ovalpline wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
im ramping my calories to w/e i eat now because i wanna get some mass. sadly enough ive never done a mass phase before however my lifts are all up to par fo rmy weight i suppose…165lbs…170 bench, 320 dead, 300squat…but is it normal to see my tummy swell like that of a drunk after saint pattys day? and is 800 cals too much for a PWO/before bed shake?
I think 800 calories is overly large for a given meal regardless of time of day. As you know, your better bet is to eat smaller, more frequent meals.
Having a large meal postworkout will probably do less damage BF wise, but it’s still better to more evenly distribute your calories. You know that…[/quote]
shucks your right…ill stop putting in the p-nutty and cut back on the extra oils hmph
Absolutely, CLaw.
Fish oil, as I’ve said many times is fantastic for both fat loss and muscle gain. At least 3g EPA//DHA and I like 6g better. It takes 20 capsules of my Sam’s Club Members Mark brand. Cheap/effective.
DH
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
… I looked at acme this morning but no luck.
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Ha!
Oh the humanity! Zingers by Hostess??!!
Where’s Walmart when you need’em.
DH
[quote]Pauli D wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
… I looked at acme this morning but no luck.
Ha![/quote]
Well, time is tight. But mainly I didn’t like the demeanor much on many threads. Of course, the “management” has noticed this also and has made adjustments. I have come to understand just how important and finite my time is. I don’t want to waste it on idiocy and idle folly.
best,
DH
I still can’t resist a good thread
[quote]scottiscool wrote:
Thanks a lot DH, and I think I will do a more even number of calories throughout the week. I find it hard to get 4000 calories in on weekends but a breeze during the week with some protein shakes with whipping cream.
You mentioned somewhere in the main forum not participating much anymore but at least in this thread everyone loves to hear your thoughts on subjects so don’t be a stranger. [/quote]