My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]BookemD wrote:
Plenty of protein and fish oils for 12 12-day break in cycles. Who’s gonna clean it though? [/quote]

Pffft. I George Foreman’ed that sumbitch this morning, and I was still hungry so I had a spoonful of flaxseeds and a shot of olive oil.

[quote]Owen70 wrote:
well muthafuckahs, how are you all doing on this diet so far?[/quote]

okay, since you asked nice

Day 4 - Sticking to the plan isn’t hard at all. I’m not hungry but I did want to have some carbs when I saw 'em. I resisted. I’m still sweating a lot and I’m hot as hell. No crash yet and I’m kinda pumped. Tonight is BJJ class so I’ll see how that goes. Glutamine+ aminos seem to be helping my workouts in the absence of carbs. The only negative is that today I had some diarrhea even with the fiber supp. Hopefully it was the only bout. I’m looking forward to the carb up. I will probably be the type that smooths out quick so I’m preparing for 36 hours or less. I’m going to try to eat all ‘quality’ carbs except once on sat and once on sun.

I’ve been lurking on this thread for a while. Today is Day 10 for me on the break-in phase (made it through the 4th of July weekend staying low-carb). I haven’t had any super painful crashes throughout this low-carb phase. I was on the V-Diet right before this so maybe that had something to do with it.

All in all, I have never felt this clear-headed and even-keel in terms of energy and focus. I feel like I’m on Spike 24/7. I lost 10 lbs over 3 weeks on the Velocity Diet and then “only” lost another 3 over the last 10 days. But considering I’m getting over 3000 calories a day instead of the 1600 or 1700 or so on the V-Diet, I think that’s effing awesome. And my strength has gone up, and more importantly, my sex-drive has returned, something that really diminished on the V-diet, despite using Alpha Male when I was on the V-Diet. My waist has shrunk about an inch, too, over the last 10 days. And I can see my serratus in the mirror.

Looking forward to my first carb-up with guarded optimism.

Felt great after the first carb up. I could just flex a muscle and it would feel like it was gonna pop out of my skin. It’s subsiding now and my body fat is noticably down. Especially covering my abs, that was a problem area for me and is probably down 1/2 of what it was when starting.

V

[quote]conorh wrote:
BookemD wrote:
Plenty of protein and fish oils for 12 12-day break in cycles. Who’s gonna clean it though?

Pffft. I George Foreman’ed that sumbitch this morning, and I was still hungry so I had a spoonful of flaxseeds and a shot of olive oil.[/quote]

…and you didn’t share? Geesh…thanks a lot!!!

[quote]grappler wrote:
I’ve been lurking on this thread for a while. Today is Day 10 for me on the break-in phase (made it through the 4th of July weekend staying low-carb). I haven’t had any super painful crashes throughout this low-carb phase. I was on the V-Diet right before this so maybe that had something to do with it.

All in all, I have never felt this clear-headed and even-keel in terms of energy and focus. I feel like I’m on Spike 24/7. I lost 10 lbs over 3 weeks on the Velocity Diet and then “only” lost another 3 over the last 10 days. But considering I’m getting over 3000 calories a day instead of the 1600 or 1700 or so on the V-Diet, I think that’s effing awesome. And my strength has gone up, and more importantly, my sex-drive has returned, something that really diminished on the V-diet, despite using Alpha Male when I was on the V-Diet. My waist has shrunk about an inch, too, over the last 10 days. And I can see my serratus in the mirror.

Looking forward to my first carb-up with guarded optimism.[/quote]

grappler, just wondering where in illinois dyou live? you can PM if you needto

I am interested in starting the Anabolic diet. I have a lot of fat to lose. Is it better to start the diet at Cals= to 18x bodyweight or to start with the cutting phase and subtract 1000 cals from the 18x bodyweight amount?

If one starts with the recommended starting phase, when would one transition to the cutting phase in my situation? After the first carb load?

If it makes a difference my diet and exercise habits currently are not worth a crap, but they are changing. I am currently planning on starting the Anabolic Diet after I work out some meal plans.

Doc D suggests that the newcomer maintain their current total caloric intake. Just make sure that you get the recommended 40-60% Fat, 40-50% Pro, and 4-10% Cho. As this thread has stressed, you need to force your body to shift to utilizing Fat as its predominate fuel source. After your initial 12-day and first carb-up, I would suggest going directly into a cutting phase. This is achieved by reducing 300-500 calories from your total caloric intake. Go slow. You can always decrease or increase by small increments as needed. Best of luck!

[quote]vasudeva wrote:
Doc D suggests that the newcomer maintain their current total caloric intake. Just make sure that you get the recommended 40-60% Fat, 40-50% Pro, and 4-10% Cho. As this thread has stressed, you need to force your body to shift to utilizing Fat as its predominate fuel source. After your initial 12-day and first carb-up, I would suggest going directly into a cutting phase. This is achieved by reducing 300-500 calories from your total caloric intake. Go slow. You can always decrease or increase by small increments as needed. Best of luck! [/quote]

I concur. I just started cutting this week, and because I had a specific number in mind, I already hit it. Now that I’m at that number, I’m gonna continue at burning fat and not worry about the number now. I just started HOT-ROX with this cut and so far I like it. I’m gonna continue through the first bottle then decide from there.

Just remember, FAT durring the week, lots of it!!! I love this way of eating. Continues to get easier and easier. My carb up this weekend is gonna be alot cleaner than last weekend. See if I can avoid the carb crash.

Today is my 1st carb up day. These 2 weeks flew right by. The only problem I feel that I have on this diet is that it has turned me into a freaking eating machine. I cannot not stop craving red meat. Feel like a zombie that needs to feed on brains! So far on this diet I have dropped 8lbs. and an inch on my waist. This diet F-in rocks. Has anyone else had an increase of aggression in the gym. Maybe its in my head but I feel like I’m back on sust.

Remember that the carb-up macronutrient ratio is approximately the following: 20-40% Fat, 15-30% Pro, 35-60% Cho. While you can technically consume an “unlimited” amount of carbs from any source, you should be wary of consuming outside of this ratio initially. Also, since you are cutting, I would suggest keeping your Cho sources clean. Best!

[quote]njstomp wrote:
This diet F-in rocks. Has anyone else had an increase of aggression in the gym. Maybe its in my head but I feel like I’m back on sust.[/quote]

Aggression increase? totally. A few minutes ago I was talking to a friend and I had to apologize for busting his chops so badly. I grinned and blamed the AD. As far as my workouts are concerned I have so much more energy, focus, and aggression. It’s wondeful.

Is there a way to take ephedrine(pseudophed) on this diet? If you were to take Power Drive and efa’s with it to keep insulin and cortisol down?
Brandon Green

[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Rancho,
Take your bodyweight and multiply x12.

Example for you to see:

200lbs x 12 = 2400 cals.

33%P
2400 x .33 = 800 cals (200g Pro)

5%CHO
2400 x .05 = 120 cals (30g CHO)

62%Fat
2400 x .62 = 1488 cals (@ 165g Fat)

Do this for 6 days per week. Do 1 carb up day and make it a workout day too. Eat mostly clean carbs with little (or no if you choose) junk.

This will be easier for you to get leaner and then you can bump up to the standard AD later.


If you picked up 10 lbs in 3 days then it certainly is not fat. Now, if this is from a carb load (which it should not be until after you do the break in phase) then it is sugar/water weight. If you picked up 10 lbs on low carb food, then you NEED a fiber supp, big time. Seriously. It is physically impossible to gain 10 lbs in 3 days unless you are still holding the actual food in your body.

Give me more details, get 20+ grams of fiber per day mixed with lots of water, eat plenty of veggies, make sure you’re hitting the ol’ head for the #2 at least 1-2x per day.

If you’ve got some HOT-ROX, start using them.

Check your resting body temp (BEFORE you move or get up) with a thermometer. Digital may be easier to read for you. We are looking for a consistent number each day. The thermo may not be all that exact on your actual temp, but as long as it is the same thermo every day, you will see a trend. Do this for 3 days of normal eating before the AD. If you have to, take this weekend off the AD and restart on Monday the 27th. We need a baseline number on your morning temp. Then we will see if your thyroid is still operating efficiently with 6day/1day cycle.

Clear?

DH

rancho wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
Charles Atlas wrote:
Hey DH,
Any thoughts on Methoxy-7? I have two bottles that I was planning on taking earlier this year, never got around to it. Same with 8 tubs Low_Carb Grow!, 1 bottle HOT-ROX, and 1 tub Surge. Looking forward to busting those open once I get really cranking on the AD, (after, say, 2mo or so).

Methoxy was one of my favorite supplements ever. I haven’t used the new version though. Basically, anything that you would normally use can be used on the AD, just check the carb count, as DH said.

Hey did you see my post for DH about gaining posible fat starting off with AD

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Ok- I know I’m just having brain lock on this one but here goes anyway.
Let’s say I’m shooting for 60% fats in my diet and total calories for the day are 3000. .60x3000=1800 cal. from fat. How do I figure out how many grams to consume??

And while I’m at it what does CHO stand for? (carbs?)

Take your total kcalories and divide it by the kcal/gram

fat: 9kcal/g
pro/cho (carbs indeed): 4kcal/g

So…

1800 kcal divided by 9kcal/gram is 200 grams of fat…

[quote]kurmatt wrote:

Ok- I know I’m just having brain lock on this one but here goes anyway.
Let’s say I’m shooting for 60% fats in my diet and total calories for the day are 3000. .60x3000=1800 cal. from fat. How do I figure out how many grams to consume??

And while I’m at it what does CHO stand for? (carbs?)
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Well, remember that fat contains 9 calories per gram. So, if you’re needing 1800 calories, simply divide by 9 to yield the number of grams you need.

1800 / 9 = 200 grams of fat

CHO is carbs, yup

[quote]NewDamage wrote:
kurmatt wrote:

Ok- I know I’m just having brain lock on this one but here goes anyway.
Let’s say I’m shooting for 60% fats in my diet and total calories for the day are 3000. .60x3000=1800 cal. from fat. How do I figure out how many grams to consume??

And while I’m at it what does CHO stand for? (carbs?)

Well, remember that fat contains 9 calories per gram.
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And carbs contain how many calories per gram?

[quote]grappler wrote:
njstomp wrote:
This diet F-in rocks. Has anyone else had an increase of aggression in the gym. Maybe its in my head but I feel like I’m back on sust.

Aggression increase? totally. A few minutes ago I was talking to a friend and I had to apologize for busting his chops so badly. I grinned and blamed the AD. As far as my workouts are concerned I have so much more energy, focus, and aggression. It’s wondeful.

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What supplements are you guys taking? True, you will notice increased energy levels once you adapt to this diet (especially after carb loads), but it shouldn’t be causing you to be going ape-sh*% on people.

Do you notice a feeling of irritability along with this aggression? If so, if you are taking a stimulant for extra energy or fat loss, you may want to bump it down a little bit until you can manage your emotions. Trust me, I remember when I took ephedrine and caffeine together and was edgy and irritable all the time. I hated it and eventually stopped using because of that.

Currently, I use HOT-ROX and Power Drive and it work well for me. I take a scoop of Power Drive about 30-60 min before my workout (5:30 AM) along with 2 HOT-ROX caps, and then 2 more HOT-ROX caps at around noontime. 4 a day is max for me as I will be way to overstimulated if I took any more.

Everyone is different with this stuff and some are more sensitive then others.

So, for what it’s worth, I would rather work a little harder in the gym and keep my relationships intact instead of working overtime apologizing for being a little “over-stimulated”.

-BD

P.S. I will admit, I do get similar aggressive episodes whenever the Yankees win a game. Thankfully, it hasn’t happened too much this year! :o)

[quote]Eidolos wrote:
Take your total kcalories and divide it by the kcal/gram

fat: 9kcal/g
pro/cho (carbs indeed): 4kcal/g

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Ok I read it again. Protien and carbs are both at 4 cal. a gram.

Thanks guys. now I can sleep better.

[quote]kurmatt wrote:
Eidolos wrote:
Take your total kcalories and divide it by the kcal/gram

fat: 9kcal/g
pro/cho (carbs indeed): 4kcal/g

Ok I read it again. Protien and carbs are both at 4 cal. a gram.

Thanks guys. now I can sleep better.
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Yup, just remember with carbs, you can subtract the dietary fiber. So, if you are eating a serving of peanuts and it says it has 5g carbs/serving and the dietary fiber/serving is 2g, then treat that serving as if it had 3g carbs. The fiber will not effect your blood suger and need not be counted.

-BD