My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

It looks to me like folks are alot more worried about ketosis on this thread than when I last frequented it.

Ketosis is not really that important. In fact, if you’re fat adapted sufficiently you shouldn’t be in ketosis. This is why guys who are on straight low-carb diets for so long are not in ketosis 24/7.

[quote]Makaveli077 wrote:
any1 have the anabolic solutions in e book form… hook me up with a link

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If you proved that you paid for some form of the book, I could help. But if you’re just looking for a freebie, you’re going to have to figure that out own your own. It’s honestly not hard to find.

[quote]Makaveli077 wrote:
Just had Instone protein pudding… awsome craves any sweet craving. Not too sweet but not bad at all. Plus 20 grams of protein .
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Stallone’s “Instone” stuff is pretty tasty -I have to admit…VERY expensive though (IMO).

I’ve found that just about any whey…(anyway?) :wink: …any Whey protein powder can be prepared to mimic pudding.

Simply mix few servings of your favorite whey and use as little water as possible. You can refrigerate -or even freeze it… -Good Stuff!

And yes, I agree! It is a sweet and nutritious treat!

peace

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Makaveli077 wrote:
Just had Instone protein pudding… awsome craves any sweet craving. Not too sweet but not bad at all. Plus 20 grams of protein .

Stallone’s “Instone” stuff is pretty tasty -I have to admit…VERY expensive though (IMO).

I’ve found that just about any whey…(anyway?) :wink: …any Whey protein powder can be prepared to mimic pudding.

Simply mix few servings of your favorite whey and use as little water as possible. You can refrigerate -or even freeze it… -Good Stuff!

And yes, I agree! It is a sweet and nutritious treat!

peace[/quote]

If you can afford the extra 6 carbs, add 1/4 of a packet of fat-free, sugar-free pudding mix…adds a nice thickness and excellent flavor.

Also, consider putting 1/4-1/2 tsp of Xanthan gum…this will thicken the shake like a mofo…caution! this stuff is very potent, it’s all fiber, so start with the low end and move up from there. Trust me.

[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Don’t take this the wrong way, dude but:

Your stats say 6’0 at 190 lbs at 11%bf.

And yet you can’t see abs? Do you (or have you) ever worked them out? Are your numbers in your profile correct?

Just askin’ because something does not sound right. Maybe post your weekly P/F/C numbers…that may help.

AD

Agreed. In general, at 11% a person should be able to see his abs - no six pack, but they should certainly be visible.

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Well the fat analyzer fluctates between 10.9 and 12.0% b.f. depending on how many days it is after my carb up or the time of day. Who knows how accurate this piece of shit is…

Anyway… I can see the top of my abs, but I am in my mid 30’s and have a little “pouch” the covers my bottom half of my tummy that won’t go away. And yes I want the whole six pack! Or at least get rid of the pouch so that I can beef up a bit, because like the doc says, don’t think of beefing up until you can see your abs…

[quote]wfifer wrote:
Makaveli077 wrote:

If you proved that you paid for some form of the book, I could help. But if you’re just looking for a freebie, you’re going to have to figure that out own your own. It’s honestly not hard to find.
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i do have the Anabolic Diet, im just in the middle of reading it. Im not “lookin for a free bee” , im just looking for information. Im currently a full time student as well as working full time . Dieting on top of all that so i look toward the T nation community for help. Is that ok big man? Or do i need to show u a receipt , a work schedual , a school receipt , and my book recepts???

anyways back to more positive posts…

Thanks 4 every1 who positivly answer my Q, so it seems the Protein pudding is AD friendly .

[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Don’t take this the wrong way, dude but:

Your stats say 6’0 at 190 lbs at 11%bf.

And yet you can’t see abs? Do you (or have you) ever worked them out? Are your numbers in your profile correct?

Just askin’ because something does not sound right. Maybe post your weekly P/F/C numbers…that may help.

AD

Agreed. In general, at 11% a person should be able to see his abs - no six pack, but they should certainly be visible.

Well the fat analyzer fluctates between 10.9 and 12.0% b.f. depending on how many days it is after my carb up or the time of day. Who knows how accurate this piece of shit is…

Anyway… I can see the top of my abs, but I am in my mid 30’s and have a little “pouch” the covers my bottom half of my tummy that won’t go away. And yes I want the whole six pack! Or at least get rid of the pouch so that I can beef up a bit, because like the doc says, don’t think of beefing up until you can see your abs…

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6’ at 190 isn’t exactly thick…I’m not certain, but it sounds kinda skinny for your height.

The reason I’m saying this is that the more LBM you have, the more effective at fat burning you’ll be.

I personally started the AD bulking at 22% BF and have gained over 15 pounds (and counting) and have dropped to about 16% bf.

It was the best decision I ever made (nutrition-wise)…not dieting to 10%.

So, as many others I think will say, you should consider doing the bulk at your current BF level and not worrying about cutting down until you are at least 210.

But that is my .02 and I’m the same age, am 4 inches shorter and only 10 pounds lighter than you, so maybe that will help with your decision.

AD

I’m living proof that sufficient exercise is important on the AD.

Broken foot/surgery almost three weeks ago and have had to dramatically scale back my workouts (no squats, no deads, no unsupported rows, no nothing that requires balancing on both feet…even my bench fell off dramatically).

I stayed at my maintenance cals for the first 1.5 weeks but felt like I had to drop them back because I was starting to feel bloated and miserable.

Now I know why those non-exercising Atkin’s devotee’s always seem so miserable.

[quote]Makaveli077 wrote:
wfifer wrote:
Makaveli077 wrote:

If you proved that you paid for some form of the book, I could help. But if you’re just looking for a freebie, you’re going to have to figure that out own your own. It’s honestly not hard to find.

i do have the Anabolic Diet, im just in the middle of reading it. Im not “lookin for a free bee” , im just looking for information. Im currently a full time student as well as working full time . Dieting on top of all that so i look toward the T nation community for help. Is that ok big man? Or do i need to show u a receipt , a work schedual , a school receipt , and my book recepts???

anyways back to more positive posts…

Thanks 4 every1 who positivly answer my Q, so it seems the Protein pudding is AD friendly .[/quote]

Frankly it looked like you were looking to get the book for free, but if you say you bought it then I see no reason not to help. I was kidding about the proof. No need to flip a shit.

You can get the old version (Anabolic Diet) with bittorrent. Like I said, it’s not hard to find.

[quote]wfifer wrote:
Makaveli077 wrote:
wfifer wrote:

Frankly it looked like you were looking to get the book for free, but if you say you bought it then I see no reason not to help. I was kidding about the proof. No need to flip a shit.

You can get the old version (Anabolic Diet) with bittorrent. Like I said, it’s not hard to find.

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No im not flippin i under stand what u wer implying and the internet is a feeding ground for bottom feeders and lurches. I have the old copy. Regardless dont take my post as an attack , maybe u miss understude what i was trying to get across or maybe i wasnt clear enough…

so any new AD dieters??

I just wanted to share that after 4 months on the AD, I finally have the CHO ups under control. Yeah, me.

[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
I just wanted to share that after 4 months on the AD, I finally have the CHO ups under control. Yeah, me.[/quote]

Good job man. I’m still having a battle with that, lol.

[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
I just wanted to share that after 4 months on the AD, I finally have the CHO ups under control. Yeah, me.[/quote]

What does under control mean? You don’t shit your pants and go to sleep (not in that order) at about 2 pm?

Or does it mean that you don’t polish off 2 boxes of fruit loops and corn pops mixed together in one day and then wonder why you shit liquid flames for 3 hours on sunday morning?

Must be nice either way.

You know what I crave now that I’m on the VD that I never craved on the AD? vegetables. fuct eh? I always loved spinach but now I find myself walking past the veggie section at the store to get ice for my shakes and I sit there and wonder what all these strange asian vegetables taste like. that and meat.

I would love to eat a whole polynesian ground roasted pig right now. Brains skull and everything. Too bad there are 0 polynesians where I live and so I can’t find said pig anywhere and my condo complex won’t let be dig a roasting hole in my back yard and fill that shit with sand.

-chris

[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
I just wanted to share that after 4 months on the AD, I finally have the CHO ups under control. Yeah, me.

What does under control mean? You don’t shit your pants and go to sleep (not in that order) at about 2 pm?

Or does it mean that you don’t polish off 2 boxes of fruit loops and corn pops mixed together in one day and then wonder why you shit liquid flames for 3 hours on sunday morning?

Must be nice either way.

You know what I crave now that I’m on the VD that I never craved on the AD? vegetables. fuct eh? I always loved spinach but now I find myself walking past the veggie section at the store to get ice for my shakes and I sit there and wonder what all these strange asian vegetables taste like. that and meat.

I would love to eat a whole polynesian ground roasted pig right now. Brains skull and everything. Too bad there are 0 polynesians where I live and so I can’t find said pig anywhere and my condo complex won’t let be dig a roasting hole in my back yard and fill that shit with sand.

-chris[/quote]

Hahaha. Actually, it means that I don’t spend a day and a half doubled over in pain from eating complete shit all day. I’ve always done great during the high fat days, but come CHO-up, I’d kill 6000-8000 (just guessing) calories.

Now, if I eat some shitty stuff, I’ll just count is as a meal instead of eating it on top of my meal.

Still not nearly perfect, but not too damaging, as I’m able, now to lose a couple pounds a week.

[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
Or does it mean that you don’t polish off 2 boxes of fruit loops and corn pops mixed together in one day and then wonder why you shit liquid flames for 3 hours on sunday morning?-chris[/quote]

Man, I don’t eat shit like that on my carb-ups. I’ll have a couple of cupcakes or chocolate chip cookies, but for the most part, it’s buckwheat pancakes with real maple syrup and strawberries and whipped cream for breakfast, some oatmeal, and post-workout Surge or TCBY.

I haven’t had any GI issues yet.

Anyone know anything about Dr. Mauro’s “Radical Diet”? Saw it over at his site…seems like it might be an interesting read…anyone read it? any thoughts? anyone? Bueler?

[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
Anyone know anything about Dr. Mauro’s “Radical Diet”? Saw it over at his site…seems like it might be an interesting read…anyone read it? any thoughts? anyone? Bueler?[/quote]

I have not read it, nor even heard of it. It sounds intriguing, though. With summer coming and outdoor adventures in the wings, I can’t do a low cal diet right now, or I’d lose a ton of muscle. However, it sounds like somethings I’d be interested in doing in the future or a two weeks on, two weeks off kind of thing.

[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
Anyone know anything about Dr. Mauro’s “Radical Diet”? Saw it over at his site…seems like it might be an interesting read…anyone read it? any thoughts? anyone? Bueler?

I have not read it, nor even heard of it. It sounds intriguing, though. With summer coming and outdoor adventures in the wings, I can’t do a low cal diet right now, or I’d lose a ton of muscle. However, it sounds like somethings I’d be interested in doing in the future or a two weeks on, two weeks off kind of thing.

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Well, stay tuned cause im impulsive and just bought the ebook. Says it will be sent in 3-4hrs, so you’ll have to wait till tomorrow night, but I’ll let you know. It’s billed as a very low calorie version of the Met. diet, claiming a typical 30lb fat loss in 8 weeks…

I lost 23 in 4 weeks on the VD, so it’s definetly possible. Maybe I’ll use it and go down to 235ish again.

[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
Anyone know anything about Dr. Mauro’s “Radical Diet”? Saw it over at his site…seems like it might be an interesting read…anyone read it? any thoughts? anyone? Bueler?

I have not read it, nor even heard of it. It sounds intriguing, though. With summer coming and outdoor adventures in the wings, I can’t do a low cal diet right now, or I’d lose a ton of muscle. However, it sounds like somethings I’d be interested in doing in the future or a two weeks on, two weeks off kind of thing.

Well, stay tuned cause im impulsive and just bought the ebook. Says it will be sent in 3-4hrs, so you’ll have to wait till tomorrow night, but I’ll let you know. It’s billed as a very low calorie version of the Met. diet, claiming a typical 30lb fat loss in 8 weeks…

I lost 23 in 4 weeks on the VD, so it’s definetly possible. Maybe I’ll use it and go down to 235ish again.
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Awesome! Keep me informed, definately.

Lyle McDonald calls it “a PSMF retooled version of the Anabolic Diet”.

I did a little research after reading your post.

[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
Anyone know anything about Dr. Mauro’s “Radical Diet”? Saw it over at his site…seems like it might be an interesting read…anyone read it? any thoughts? anyone? Bueler?

I have not read it, nor even heard of it. It sounds intriguing, though. With summer coming and outdoor adventures in the wings, I can’t do a low cal diet right now, or I’d lose a ton of muscle. However, it sounds like somethings I’d be interested in doing in the future or a two weeks on, two weeks off kind of thing.

Well, stay tuned cause im impulsive and just bought the ebook. Says it will be sent in 3-4hrs, so you’ll have to wait till tomorrow night, but I’ll let you know. It’s billed as a very low calorie version of the Met. diet, claiming a typical 30lb fat loss in 8 weeks…

I lost 23 in 4 weeks on the VD, so it’s definetly possible. Maybe I’ll use it and go down to 235ish again.

Awesome! Keep me informed, definately.

Lyle McDonald calls it “a PSMF retooled version of the Anabolic Diet”.

I did a little research after reading your post.

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He’s kinda right. I’m skimming through it. Basically, low cal AD, then a higher carb higher calorie day. Seems solid so far.