My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]ovalpline wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
I recently bought the Metabolic Diet ebook and that seems to be the entire point that Dr. D is trying to get across. I can’t wait to finish it, there’s so much in this that wasn’t covered in the AS ebooks.

Biz, I’m definitely interested in hearing about what’s covered in the Metabolic Diet that was not covered in the Anabolic Solution.

Keep me posted.

-Stu
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Ovalpine, I just sent you a message about it. But I remember you saying that you have trouble with messages, so lemme know if you get it or not.

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
I have to agree here…I’m 6’ as well, and I see abs at 225lbs.

…yeah -but you’re IL Cazz!

How’s it goin pal?
What’s it been like post V-Diet?

Any notable changes? -gaining?
Still losing?

It seems like the AD (or something like it) is a good place to begin or at least transition with after the V-Diet.

Hope all is well…

peace[/quote]

Hey Pauli,

I lost 6lbs on the AD post VD without trying really. Since then I’ve been just maintaining. I will prob. now lose about 10lbs and go down to 240ish for summer.

AD is good for summer eating too…just don’t eat the bread and you can have pretty much anything at any BBQ.

I will say though, that it took a few weeks for me to really like food again after the VD. I got really used to just mixing a shake and not having to cook…but I’m back to my normal AD ways now.

Hey guys, got a question concerning cardio. Since I started the AD, I havn’t done any at all, mainly due to the fact that I always did HIIT, and Iv’e read its not recommended on this diet.

If I was to do longer duration, low intensity cardio at the end of the week, this will be sure to burn fat and only fat, is this correct? Will it hinder muscle gain? I am currently trying to gain, but keep the fat off.

I know, it shouldn’t bother me alot, or it could mess with my gaining. So diet wise, I am eating a little over maintanence calories during the week, and bigger carb ups.

[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Hey guys, got a question concerning cardio. Since I started the AD, I havn’t done any at all, mainly due to the fact that I always did HIIT, and Iv’e read its not recommended on this diet.

If I was to do longer duration, low intensity cardio at the end of the week, this will be sure to burn fat and only fat, is this correct? Will it hinder muscle gain? I am currently trying to gain, but keep the fat off.

I know, it shouldn’t bother me alot, or it could mess with my gaining. So diet wise, I am eating a little over maintanence calories during the week, and bigger carb ups.[/quote]

(1) You should reread the discussion on HIIT, it was not as black and white… also take in to consideration that I am operating at a very low BF and my body is less apt to mobilize fat resources. In other words, experiment for yourself.

(2) Low intensity cardio is fine. The only way it will hinder muscle gain is if you are already at below maintenance calories or the cardio causes you to be below maintenance calories.

Cazz’

…do you compete at all (other than Football)? Oly, Strongman or Highland Games?

With your size, strength and discipline -you’d be a MONSTER to mess with!

Glad to hear the AD is still treating you well post V-Diet.
…I’d be nervous at my first carb-up after all that work and sacrifice though…scared to death that I’d ‘blow-up’ beyond belief!

ha!

peace, pal

:wink:

[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
Pauli D wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
I have to agree here…I’m 6’ as well, and I see abs at 225lbs.

…yeah -but you’re IL Cazz!

How’s it goin pal?
What’s it been like post V-Diet?

Any notable changes? -gaining?
Still losing?

It seems like the AD (or something like it) is a good place to begin or at least transition with after the V-Diet.

Hope all is well…

peace

Hey Pauli,

I lost 6lbs on the AD post VD without trying really. Since then I’ve been just maintaining. I will prob. now lose about 10lbs and go down to 240ish for summer.

AD is good for summer eating too…just don’t eat the bread and you can have pretty much anything at any BBQ.

I will say though, that it took a few weeks for me to really like food again after the VD. I got really used to just mixing a shake and not having to cook…but I’m back to my normal AD ways now.[/quote]

I’ve been doing uphill walking for the past couple of weeks and feel like it’s making somewhat of a difference. I am not noticing much change in terms of scale weight and I always think my eyes are deceiving me when I look in the mirror.

I do, however, fit much better into all of my clothes and am starting to gain more definition. One of my problems is that I was a real FFB and I think my skin is a bit loose around the stomach area. This went totally OT from what I was saying… so yes, do the walking.

[quote]Bizmark wrote:
Well… since your already highly dicaplined enough to do the Vdiet, I would recommend slowly bringing your calories up. You may be required to drop protein for that time cuz your gonna wanna have about 50% of your kcal coming from fats. But itll be worth it because you most likely wont gain much fat, if any. The transition is gonna be pretty easy for you too because your already low carb.
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Thank you for this feedback, should I wait 12 days before carbup or I can go ahead after 5 days since I was already carb-depleted during the V-Diet?

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Cazz’

…do you compete at all (other than Football)? Oly, Strongman or Highland Games?

With your size, strength and discipline -you’d be a MONSTER to mess with!

Glad to hear the AD is still treating you well post V-Diet.
…I’d be nervous at my first carb-up after all that work and sacrifice though…scared to death that I’d ‘blow-up’ beyond belief!

ha!

peace, pal

:wink:
IL Cazzo wrote:
Pauli D wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
I have to agree here…I’m 6’ as well, and I see abs at 225lbs.

…yeah -but you’re IL Cazz!

How’s it goin pal?
What’s it been like post V-Diet?

Any notable changes? -gaining?
Still losing?

It seems like the AD (or something like it) is a good place to begin or at least transition with after the V-Diet.

Hope all is well…

peace

Hey Pauli,

I lost 6lbs on the AD post VD without trying really. Since then I’ve been just maintaining. I will prob. now lose about 10lbs and go down to 240ish for summer.

AD is good for summer eating too…just don’t eat the bread and you can have pretty much anything at any BBQ.

I will say though, that it took a few weeks for me to really like food again after the VD. I got really used to just mixing a shake and not having to cook…but I’m back to my normal AD ways now.

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Hey Pauli,

I compete in OL 1-2x’s a year. Luckily, the state champoinships are held about 10 mins from me. Also, the garden state games are fairly close, thought I haven’t gone there in a few years.

Still play football…and might actually join an indoor soccer league this fall…never played soccer before, so this should be interesting. haha.

[quote]TheTank123 wrote:
I’ve been doing uphill walking for the past couple of weeks and feel like it’s making somewhat of a difference. I am not noticing much change in terms of scale weight and I always think my eyes are deceiving me when I look in the mirror.

I do, however, fit much better into all of my clothes and am starting to gain more definition. One of my problems is that I was a real FFB and I think my skin is a bit loose around the stomach area. This went totally OT from what I was saying… so yes, do the walking.[/quote]

IMO, clothing is maybe the best indicator. Scales can lie and measurements can be tricky…but if a shrit won’t button, it won’t button.

Quick question regarding cardio. I need to start training for a timed 1.5 mile run. I know its not a lot (sub- 12 minute run); but when would ideally be the best time to train this? I’m currently on the “Designer Athlete” routine; lifting in the AM, and was planning on the runs at night, probably 3-4 times a week.

Aspengc8

[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:

Still play football…and might actually join an indoor soccer league this fall…never played soccer before, so this should be interesting. haha.
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I can’t even imagine a 250 pound soccer player…and on an INDOOR field to boot!

“What was that?”
“I don’t know -but here it comes again!”

:wink:

any1 have the anabolic solutions in e book form… hook me up with a link

If possible I’d like to get some insight on people that have used the AD for mass gains. What have people seen best results with, say averaging 5k calories a day all week, or 3500 weekdays and jack up the calories on weekends? Any other thoughts, especially from DH and Il cazzo or any other big boys out there are certainely welcome.

I’ve been on the diet for a good period of time but when I’m at school budget is low and therefore I’m on a permanent mantinence diet. Going home in a little less than one month and plan on using the summer time for some serious size gains.

[quote]Nutso wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
Well… since your already highly disciplined enough to do the Vdiet, I would recommend slowly bringing your calories up. You may be required to drop protein for that time cuz your gonna wanna have about 50% of your kcal coming from fats. But itll be worth it because you most likely wont gain much fat, if any. The transition is gonna be pretty easy for you too because your already low carb.

Thank you for this feedback, should I wait 12 days before carbup or I can go ahead after 5 days since I was already carb-depleted during the V-Diet?[/quote]

I would recommend just doing the induction, its fun because of the amount of discipline that it takes… though it might not be the same amount of discipline as the v-diet, but it still takes a bit… plus it will guarantee that your burning fat, just in case if you weren’t before.

[quote]scottiscool wrote:
If possible I’d like to get some insight on people that have used the AD for mass gains. What have people seen best results with, say averaging 5k calories a day all week, or 3500 weekdays and jack up the calories on weekends? Any other thoughts, especially from DH and Il cazzo or any other big boys out there are certainely welcome.

I’ve been on the diet for a good period of time but when I’m at school budget is low and therefore I’m on a permanent mantinence diet. Going home in a little less than one month and plan on using the summer time for some serious size gains. [/quote]

It’s actually pretty easy to jack up the cals on this diet…add more olive oil, flax/fish oils, Natural PB is your friend. Eggs. Nuts…you know the drill. Since you’ll be home for the summer, crash every BBQ you can and eat all their food.

How many cals would depend on your bdwt, but, I think that weekely intake has to be taken into account…so your idea of upping cals on the weekend could work…sort of a zig-zag. I’ve never really counted calories when bulking…I just ate like I would love to if getting fat didn’t exist.

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
I can’t even imagine a 250 pound soccer player…and on an INDOOR field to boot!

“What was that?”
“I don’t know -but here it comes again!”

:wink:

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Haha. My gf is tryin to convince me to play in an outdoor league rather than indoor…she said indoor is asking for injury. I’ll prob. play at 240ish, so yea, i’ll prob outweigh everyone else by 50lbs or so. :O)

Just had Instone protein pudding… awsome craves any sweet craving. Not too sweet but not bad at all. Plus 20 grams of protein .

Does the ingredents look ADfriendly however?? i think it does what about u guys?

Ingredients:
Water, Calcium Caseinate (milk derivitive, not a source of lactose), Soy Protein Isolate, Cocoa (processed with alkali), Soybean Oil, Sodium Chloride, Dipotassium Phosphate, Carrageenan, Dextrose, Tricalcium Phosphate, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium

Total Fat 2 g
Saturated Fat 0 g
Cholesterol <5 mg
Sodium 420 mg
Potassium 300 mg
Total Carb 2

Protein 20 g

[quote]Makaveli077 wrote:
Just had Instone protein pudding… awsome craves any sweet craving. Not too sweet but not bad at all. Plus 20 grams of protein .

Does the ingredents look ADfriendly however?? i think it does what about u guys?

Ingredients:
Water, Calcium Caseinate (milk derivitive, not a source of lactose), Soy Protein Isolate, Cocoa (processed with alkali), Soybean Oil, Sodium Chloride, Dipotassium Phosphate, Carrageenan, Dextrose, Tricalcium Phosphate, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium

Total Fat 2 g
Saturated Fat 0 g
Cholesterol <5 mg
Sodium 420 mg
Potassium 300 mg
Total Carb 2

Protein 20 g[/quote]

It looks AD friendly, but I wouldn’t eat soy protein very often, if at all.

[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
Makaveli077 wrote:
Just had Instone protein pudding… awsome craves any sweet craving. Not too sweet but not bad at all. Plus 20 grams of protein .

Does the ingredents look ADfriendly however?? i think it does what about u guys?

Ingredients:
Water, Calcium Caseinate (milk derivitive, not a source of lactose), Soy Protein Isolate, Cocoa (processed with alkali), Soybean Oil, Sodium Chloride, Dipotassium Phosphate, Carrageenan, Dextrose, Tricalcium Phosphate, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium

Total Fat 2 g
Saturated Fat 0 g
Cholesterol <5 mg
Sodium 420 mg
Potassium 300 mg
Total Carb 2

Protein 20 g

It looks AD friendly, but I wouldn’t eat soy protein very often, if at all.

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I really dont however that the way this is made. Will these ingredents effect insulin levels or ketosis?