My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
So who is still on and how long have you been on?

I’ve been on for about 6 months, in all.

I started at about 163’ish in Sept, but began my bulk in Oct. The scale weight didn’t budge until about December (if I remember right). And I was about 23% BF.

Now I’m 15-16% BF, and 180 (82kg)…weighed on Wed. Not that much of a gain, but I had to take a month at maintenence due to living conditions.

So in that light, not too bad.

AD

PS: Why thee asketh?[/quote]

so you bulked and lost all that fat hmm…makes me think ive never bulked but ive made my gains…i think ill start my first bulk within the month…yea i know its embarassing but im poor and it takes me a long time to aquire money for weights

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
PS: Why thee asketh?

Mainly to get a general overview of the people reading and posting on the thread.[/quote]

Fair enough, man.

AD

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[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
So who is still on and how long have you been on?

I’ve been on for about 6 months, in all.

I started at about 163’ish in Sept, but began my bulk in Oct. The scale weight didn’t budge until about December (if I remember right). And I was about 23% BF.

Now I’m 15-16% BF, and 180 (82kg)…weighed on Wed. Not that much of a gain, but I had to take a month at maintenence due to living conditions.

So in that light, not too bad.

AD

PS: Why thee asketh?

so you bulked and lost all that fat hmm…makes me think ive never bulked but ive made my gains…i think ill start my first bulk within the month…yea i know its embarassing but im poor and it takes me a long time to aquire money for weights [/quote]

Yeah man,

I’m really glad I did the bulk instead of get to 150lbs (or less) if I cut from that high bf%.

Heck, honestly in retrospect, it should have been a no-brainer.

I’ll admit though…at the time it was a difficult choice. The choice between ripped (but little/no muscle) and larger (risking fat gain) was, in so many ways, a hard decision.

On one hand, the book said “stay under 10%”, but on the other hand, I knew it was better (and had other input from people here such as DH, Sasha, Vasudeva, etc…sorry if I left anyone out, no offense, ok?).

I took the vets at their word and have not been let down. And it’s been better than I could have imagined…as my numbers show.

Basically, I decided that strength limits needed to go up…then size would follow…then I’d worry about excess fat later.

Just take the plunge dude and do it…don’t alter the protocol for the first few months…and enjoy the lifestyle. That’s my only (unsolicited) advice for ya. :wink:

AD

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Has any one used HOT-ROX (Reg, Max, Extreme)during any phase of the AD?

I’m specifically curious about using it to reduce the amount of fat gained during a mass phase.

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[quote]CCFan wrote:
Has any one used HOT-ROX (Reg, Max, Extreme)during any phase of the AD?

I’m specifically curious about using it to reduce the amount of fat gained during a mass phase.[/quote]

HOT-ROX is for cutting purposes. On a mass phase you will have enough trouble eating the amount of AD food required, and need not mess with anything that may in any way surpress your appetite.

I’d say use Carbolin 19 instead, if you have to use anything.

AD

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I’ve been on for 3 1/2 months. I put on quite a bit of size and have just started to diet the last couple of weeks. It’s nice because I can eat more than usual while dieting.

The whole adaption phase had me eating when hungry which was all the time. My appetite has settled down now, and I’m pretty comfortable at around 3000 cals.

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Been on and off it the last 8 or 9 months. Last time I re-started it is now about two months ago, and I’m starting to notice the effects. Getting stronger, better spread out energy, etc.

Saturday, my new batch of supplements ( well, whey and oil and such ) arrived. I’m starting up a cutting phase - gonna add more HIIT-ish stuff ( errr … was there a consensus in the discussion about the length of the sprints? ) on off days, and start watching my caloric intake a bit closer.
Also, I’ll eat less cheese. My bowels don’t really like cheese I believe :slight_smile:

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[quote]LVZzed wrote:
Been on and off it the last 8 or 9 months. Last time I re-started it is now about two months ago, and I’m starting to notice the effects. Getting stronger, better spread out energy, etc.

Saturday, my new batch of supplements ( well, whey and oil and such ) arrived. I’m starting up a cutting phase - gonna add more HIIT-ish stuff ( errr … was there a consensus in the discussion about the length of the sprints? ) on off days, and start watching my caloric intake a bit closer.
Also, I’ll eat less cheese. My bowels don’t really like cheese I believe :)[/quote]

true, on this diet i learned im slighlty lactose intolerant now i dont get as bloated as when i loaded cheese and ate yogurt…my stomach is finally at peace…Thanks AD

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I still love my full fat cottage cheese in the evening … feta with my meals … and some standard gouda here and there … but I will cut back on it!

Speaking of cutting back, I wonder how I’ll feel once I drop my calories … I need to find my fitday account again and start monitoring, cause I got no idea where I am at calorically speaking. I have gained some fat though. Last few months was adaptation + eating when hungry … or before hungry …

I’d love to get down to 10% someday.

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
So who is still on and how long have you been on?

[/quote]

…almost a year for me (4/15/06) since I did the induction.

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[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
I understand the 30 sec HIIT sessions tap into glycogen=good thing.

So…is it a good thing or a bad thing to use @10 second sprints on the AD? IF it taps into ATP, is that good or bad?

[/quote]

I assume what you are asking is, is it advisable (in the sense that it is doable and won’t make you suffer later) to do 10 second sprints on the AD when depleted?.. and the answer is yes. You should be fine.

Since you are fat adapted, ATP can easily be resynthesized when depleted with FFA.
Although, like I said earlier, I don’t know what the true cut-off point is (and imagine it does vary to a degree person to person).

Keep in mind though, the sprints CT suggests are between 40 and 60 meters, which, if you can’t finish in under 10 seconds, I will personally start running with you on the track.

Final verdict: alactic sprinting (less than ~10 seconds) is fine when depleted.

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Is regular jiffy peanut butter ok on the diet and the break-in phase?

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[quote]Hawkson101 wrote:
Is regular jiffy peanut butter ok on the diet and the break-in phase?[/quote]

grab the natural stuff its way better for you and jiffy has nothin on natural p-nutty

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What I meant to say was-does the jiffy stuff have too many carbs?

I don’t like natural very much

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if its not natural penaut butter it probably has sugar and trans-fat added which really isnt good on any diet.

Also for the induction and watching carbs I believe that the nut themselves have a better carb to fiber ratio than the butters.

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[quote]Hawkson101 wrote:
What I meant to say was-does the jiffy stuff have too many carbs?

I don’t like natural very much[/quote]

I don’t like drinking Greens+ - at all. I also don’t like paying my bills. I do both.

Be a man.

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I’ve been on and occasionally off since about '98. Anytime I went off, I gained fat. Recently I did the Velocity diet, just for a change of pace and a challenge…but I’ve been back on since just after Christmas. Lost 8 more lbs since then, but I’m in a maintence deal now.

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how strict do i have to be on the induction?

The diet is pretty easy for me in terms of fats and proteins as i generally eat pretty well. however, stuff like celery and peanut butter, ketchup and ground beef, eggs, ranch and chicken all contain 2-5 grams of carbs each. add that throughout the day and i go over 30grams consistently

is this a problem?

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Been on for almost 2 months nows and consistantly getting stronger and gaining. Lost a bit of fat as well. I am not watching my calories too close during the week, just making sure I get enough fats in, and keep the protein maderate. The last 2 weekends haven’t been as clean as I would have liked, went out on both saturday nites…but still managed to make strength gains as well as gain size over the last 2 weeks. No more booze for a while!!!
I will clean up the carb ups a bit so I dont gain too much fat…but muscle gain is essentially what Im after for now.

Good luck to us all…Love the AD diet

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[quote]Hawkson101 wrote:
how strict do i have to be on the induction?

The diet is pretty easy for me in terms of fats and proteins as i generally eat pretty well. however, stuff like celery and peanut butter, ketchup and ground beef, eggs, ranch and chicken all contain 2-5 grams of carbs each. add that throughout the day and i go over 30grams consistently

is this a problem?[/quote]

dont forget to suntract fiber and for the majority…most of us never count veggies…unless you wanna be strict then just eat meat for the induction with all carbs coming from veggies