I’m having an irrational fear that I am somehow introducing hidden carbs into my diet. Are Ketone strips an accurate measure of whether or not there are carbs present?
Also, how much dose alcohol consumption on the weekends defeat the entire purpose of this diet? I understand that alcohol must be burned before fat and that it inhibits testosterone, but is that a slap on the wrist type warning or a go to the principals office? (that’s a horrible way to phrase it but I couldn’t think of any other way).
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
lookin for some opinions and maybe some insight…howd you all treat a carb up on an off week?and one more thing FF Yogurt is ok right…it seems weird i havnt boughten any for a catb up and wondered maybe its for a reason…?(maybe the protein in it?)
Personally, I would just do a 1 day carbup in that case if your not already doing one.[/quote]
depends o n ur goals …are u in a mass phase then 1 day carb up will be great.
but if ur goal is fat loss then in imo 1 concentrated carb meal must be fine eat as much as u can in 1 meal thats it .
[quote]industrialplaid wrote:
I’m back on the thread after a short vacation to D.C. this last weekend.
raviraj - Thanks for posting the links to second-opinion.com. It was interesting looking at his thoughts about insulin response to CHO intake, and it really answered my questions.
I’m convinced, after my last carb load, that ovalpine’s post on water intake is absolutely KEY to feeling great on this diet. I kept my water intake extremely low for my last CHO load, and felt (and looked) fantastic. It was a completely different animal. I’m going to try CT’s advice about slowly increasing water intake from Mon to Fri then cutting it back to an absolute minimum on Sat and Sun (my load days). I’m excited about how much of a difference it made last week.[/quote]
that is fantastic maybe u can use that key allways on ur carbload …and i know how puffy feeling sometimes we get after the carbload . and yes the site is full of good info .
[quote]TheTank123 wrote:
I’m having an irrational fear that I am somehow introducing hidden carbs into my diet. Are Ketone strips an accurate measure of whether or not there are carbs present?
Also, how much dose alcohol consumption on the weekends defeat the entire purpose of this diet? I understand that alcohol must be burned before fat and that it inhibits testosterone, but is that a slap on the wrist type warning or a go to the principals office? (that’s a horrible way to phrase it but I couldn’t think of any other way).[/quote]
hidden carb ? …i mean it all depends on ur diet dear … if u are eating a lot of vegetables (fiberous) then its great dont worry. and u can allways use fitday it can help u in that case to trace the amounts of carb with impact in ur diet again ketone strips are not really imp on this diet .
alchol depends on how muhc u are taking in ? and what type …infact if u drink wine it can be good though in limits maybe 1 or 2 glass .
pls check this site every 1 here is a article by dr Mauro Di Pasquale now wht i find funny is tht dr here for the ad says we can eat saturated fat …and in this article he says to stay away from saturated fat for health benefits …this is somewhat confussing right http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/md29.htm
I have a question for the AD’ers who sprint alot… I am thinking of doing sprints in the morning 3 or 4 times a week. CT recently told me how to cycle off this diet and also said that sprints will start teaching my body to burn muscle rather than fat in the absence of carbohydrates.
The thing is that this weekend I am only able to do a 1 day carbup. So what have you all found about sprinting and the amount of carbs needed? Is a two day carbup really required? As I am probably going to start them next week. If not I’ll just do 2mile runs in the morning or something like that until I can get some more carbs in.
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
I have a question for the AD’ers who sprint alot… I am thinking of doing sprints in the morning 3 or 4 times a week. CT recently told me how to cycle off this diet and also said that sprints will start teaching my body to burn muscle rather than fat in the absence of carbohydrates.
The thing is that this weekend I am only able to do a 1 day carbup. So what have you all found about sprinting and the amount of carbs needed? Is a two day carbup really required? As I am probably going to start them next week. If not I’ll just do 2mile runs in the morning or something like that until I can get some more carbs in.
Anyway, plz let me know. Thanx.
-Biz[/quote]
I started sprinting again last week, but the other day I tweaked my hamstring, so I haven’t recently. From what I’ve read in Muscle Revolution and other places is that shorter sprints like even 100 meters are primarily fueled by ATP. (He actually says that the first 20 sec. of an all out sprint are fueled by ATP)
Regardless, I haven’t been sprinting enough lately to have any personal experience to contribute.
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
I have a question for the AD’ers who sprint alot… I am thinking of doing sprints in the morning 3 or 4 times a week. CT recently told me how to cycle off this diet and also said that sprints will start teaching my body to burn muscle rather than fat in the absence of carbohydrates.
The thing is that this weekend I am only able to do a 1 day carbup. So what have you all found about sprinting and the amount of carbs needed? Is a two day carbup really required? As I am probably going to start them next week. If not I’ll just do 2mile runs in the morning or something like that until I can get some more carbs in.
Anyway, plz let me know. Thanx.
-Biz[/quote]
all i can tell ya is something i read here earlier…do 1-2 maybe 3 sprint days (first days of the week after load) because they burn thru the glycogon…sooo…thats all i can tell
[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
I have a question for the AD’ers who sprint alot… I am thinking of doing sprints in the morning 3 or 4 times a week. CT recently told me how to cycle off this diet and also said that sprints will start teaching my body to burn muscle rather than fat in the absence of carbohydrates.
The thing is that this weekend I am only able to do a 1 day carbup. So what have you all found about sprinting and the amount of carbs needed? Is a two day carbup really required? As I am probably going to start them next week. If not I’ll just do 2mile runs in the morning or something like that until I can get some more carbs in.
Anyway, plz let me know. Thanx.
-Biz
I started sprinting again last week, but the other day I tweaked my hamstring, so I haven’t recently. From what I’ve read in Muscle Revolution and other places is that shorter sprints like even 100 meters are primarily fueled by ATP. (He actually says that the first 20 sec. of an all out sprint are fueled by ATP)
Regardless, I haven’t been sprinting enough lately to have any personal experience to contribute.
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That’s interesting. I have a copy of Muscle Revolution but I havn’t finished this other book I’m reading yet, so I’m gonna do that first and then pick up MR.
So what I was gonna do is jog or ride my bike to the place where I wanna do sprints, and then probably knock out a buncha 100yard ones. I take 5g creatine monohydrate in the morning and then 2g creatine ester ethyl (or whatever its called) after working out, so my ATP system should be up to par.
I do that mostly because I don’t get to eat much red meat, I still live at home and my mom isn’t a big fan of red meat, so I work with what I’ve got.
Also, what do you all think about taking in creatine WHILE workout out. Would that be beneficial for us especially since alot of the ATP system is being used? (I may have inadvertly linked creatine to ATP, and I may be totally wrong in creatine’s roll in the ATP system, so please correct me if I am wrong :-).)
Hey people! i am starting this diet and have read almost the whole thread starting from page 1!!!
my question has to deal with working a swing shift for work from 3pm until anywhere between 11pm and 1 am!
I feel myself REALLY DRAGGING ASS! at night, what can i do if anything to keep myself energized at those hours?
i trie to get up around 8-9 am everyday, and then the food begins, but by about 9-11 pm i am DRAGGING ARSE!!
i do not have any micro break downs just yet, and i have not started lifting just yet either, i am just trying to get into the break in phase and add lifting in a bit at a time.
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
I have a question for the AD’ers who sprint alot… I am thinking of doing sprints in the morning 3 or 4 times a week. CT recently told me how to cycle off this diet and also said that sprints will start teaching my body to burn muscle rather than fat in the absence of carbohydrates.
The thing is that this weekend I am only able to do a 1 day carbup. So what have you all found about sprinting and the amount of carbs needed? Is a two day carbup really required? As I am probably going to start them next week. If not I’ll just do 2mile runs in the morning or something like that until I can get some more carbs in.
Anyway, plz let me know. Thanx.
-Biz
all i can tell ya is something i read here earlier…do 1-2 maybe 3 sprint days (first days of the week after load) because they burn thru the glycogon…sooo…thats all i can tell [/quote]
if …sprints r said to be anerobic excercise so if tht will eat our muscles then what abt weight training ? does it means tht weight training and sprints will be too much for the body ?
[quote]raviraj wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
I have a question for the AD’ers who sprint alot… I am thinking of doing sprints in the morning 3 or 4 times a week. CT recently told me how to cycle off this diet and also said that sprints will start teaching my body to burn muscle rather than fat in the absence of carbohydrates.
The thing is that this weekend I am only able to do a 1 day carbup. So what have you all found about sprinting and the amount of carbs needed? Is a two day carbup really required? As I am probably going to start them next week. If not I’ll just do 2mile runs in the morning or something like that until I can get some more carbs in.
Anyway, plz let me know. Thanx.
-Biz
all i can tell ya is something i read here earlier…do 1-2 maybe 3 sprint days (first days of the week after load) because they burn thru the glycogon…sooo…thats all i can tell
if …sprints r said to be anerobic excercise so if tht will eat our muscles then what abt weight training ? does it means tht weight training and sprints will be too much for the body ? [/quote]
tru, but I think sprints are different than weighttraining. Weighttraining is required to keep your muscle no matter what. Stop weighttraining and youll lose your muscle after a while. And I dunno about sprints, I’m pretty sure that somehow they are different. but I notice that if I stop sprinting for a couple months my performance in them drops. Anyway, I guess the rule applies “use it or you’ll lose it.”
[quote]raviraj wrote:
pls check this site every 1 here is a article by dr Mauro Di Pasquale now wht i find funny is tht dr here for the ad says we can eat saturated fat …and in this article he says to stay away from saturated fat for health benefits …this is somewhat confussing right http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/md29.htm
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In light of the audience over there and other things the Doc says everywhere I can’t help but believe his use of terminology is geared that way. He also doesn’t say to stay away from saturated fat, just to be judicious in consumption. In the book he flat out encourages meat eating. If it helps, I eat quite a bit every day and have trouble getting my cholesterol over 125, but I also eat tons of EFA’s, garlic, cinnamon, some oats etc which also have an effect.
who used the AD for a mass gaining phase?
Now I’m very lean I’m 77.4kg at6% of BF, I cannot gain mass, probably I’m afraid to get fat, and I really like my actual “shape” even if I whant to get bigger, so I’m searching for a diet plan wich allow me to build up some more muscles, without adding too much body fat.
My mainteinance kcal intake is setted at around 3000kcal day, I thought I could eat at around 3000-3100kcal day during week days and then bump up the caloric intake of the week-end, to 5000-6000 day eating oatmeal, basmati rice, legumes whole bread etc.( all clean “BB friendly” foods by teh way")
I could train on Tuesday, Thursday, and in the W.e., that’s why I prefer to ramp up the calories on the w.e., to be shure to fully saturate my glicogen loads even if I train hard.
I will probably add sprints and bike sprints or interval training+ calves/ABS work on the other days…
any comment?
any advice?
Tnx in advance
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Any way you decide to go you will not stay anywhere near that lean if you plan to gain any meaningful size. However this way of eating would be great for a guy like you if you are willing to invest several months in getting fully adapted. It is NOT going to help if just want to bulk for a couple months and go back to eating a conventional diet. It will take that long to get dialed in.
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
<<< tru, but I think sprints are different than weighttraining. Weighttraining is required to keep your muscle no matter what. Stop weighttraining and youll lose your muscle after a while. And I dunno about sprints, I’m pretty sure that somehow they are different. but I notice that if I stop sprinting for a couple months my performance in them drops. Anyway, I guess the rule applies “use it or you’ll lose it.”[/quote]
Sprints tear up my knees and hips so I don’t do em much, but yes sprinting is the rough equivalent of super high rep weight training in that sense. Think of how many “reps” you do in 30 seconds of sprinting and liken it to very high speed lunges or something with enough weight for the same amount of reps.
I havn’t tested to see if I was in ketosis for a while and decided to do it again today. Last time was last friday. I havn’t carbed up since 2 saturdays ago, and no ketones were showing last friday.
Today I did it and it turned dark as hell. The color was dark red, therefor its in the “large” area. I think its because last week I didn’t train that hard, and this week I’ve been training extremely hard. Or maybe my body takes longer to get into ketosis than most pplz.
Either way it looks like I’m not completely adapted to the diet even though I’ve been on it for a while. But then again it is supposed to take multiple months.
I’m about to go do a hardcore workout right now. I’ll see if I can get the ketostix to turn black by tomorrow, hehehe.
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
I havn’t tested to see if I was in ketosis for a while and decided to do it again today. Last time was last friday. I havn’t carbed up since 2 saturdays ago, and no ketones were showing last friday.
Today I did it and it turned dark as hell. The color was dark red, therefor its in the “large” area. I think its because last week I didn’t train that hard, and this week I’ve been training extremely hard. Or maybe my body takes longer to get into ketosis than most pplz.
Either way it looks like I’m not completely adapted to the diet even though I’ve been on it for a while. But then again it is supposed to take multiple months.
I’m about to go do a hardcore workout right now. I’ll see if I can get the ketostix to turn black by tomorrow, hehehe.
-Biz[/quote]
so are ketone sticks a nice way to ssee if youve depleted your glycogon stores?
hey every one …as iam free this days …what iam doing is a lot of research on low carb diets …now i got this link about insulin …other then it being a anabolic hormone it has many nasty other side effects also pls read this link …very intresting article …i hope tribulus u will enjoy it very informative http://home.comcast.net/~cosmicbear/what_is_the_purpose_of_insulin.htm
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
so are ketone sticks a nice way to ssee if youve depleted your glycogon stores?[/quote]
Yeah, cuz if ur in ketosis then ur definently glycogen depleted. But after your adapted to the diet you go through ketosis, and your no longer in it.
Also, I think that diet drinks knock you out of ketosis. The reason is because earlier today I had a Redline energy drink… it had no dextrose or maltodextrin, but it did have sucralose and citric acid.
I know for a fact that sucralose doesn’t knock you out, but I’m pretty sure that citric acid does have an effect on it, I read it on one of the sticky posts on the forums at c-k-d.com.
The reason is because yesterday the ketostix said i was hardcore in ketosis, then today I came home after work and school (and after having the Redline which contained citric acid), took the keto test, and it didn’t even come up as trace ketones.
So I’m thinking that citric acid may actually have a large effect on ketosis, or maybe my body adapted today :-). Either way its a carbup tomorrow, and I can’t wait!
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
so are ketone sticks a nice way to ssee if youve depleted your glycogon stores?
Yeah, cuz if ur in ketosis then ur definently glycogen depleted. But after your adapted to the diet you go through ketosis, and your no longer in it.
Also, I think that diet drinks knock you out of ketosis. The reason is because earlier today I had a Redline energy drink… it had no dextrose or maltodextrin, but it did have sucralose and citric acid.
I know for a fact that sucralose doesn’t knock you out, but I’m pretty sure that citric acid does have an effect on it, I read it on one of the sticky posts on the forums at c-k-d.com.
The reason is because yesterday the ketostix said i was hardcore in ketosis, then today I came home after work and school (and after having the Redline which contained citric acid), took the keto test, and it didn’t even come up as trace ketones.
So I’m thinking that citric acid may actually have a large effect on ketosis, or maybe my body adapted today :-). Either way its a carbup tomorrow, and I can’t wait!
-Biz[/quote]
thanx for that…i think now i may range out my barb ups based on my results from the sticks…or just do my regular two day all clean unmonitored carb ups
