My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Anyone know where I can get a big bag of maltodextrin or glucose online??? I want to make my own weight gainers for post workout. Anyone got opinions on which of the two to go for?

[quote]OMC wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a big bag of maltodextrin or glucose online??? I want to make my own weight gainers for post workout. Anyone got opinions on which of the two to go for?[/quote]

k anyone have any idea why (day after carb up) i go to practice feeling good then by the end im gassed more than ever…

So,how is everyone with eating spinach?
I’ve always ate spinach (about two pounds a week) since the whole spinach scare and E coli link, I’ve started back on organic spinach,although there wasn’t any E Coli found on organic spinach.

The organic spinach I bought has seven grams of fiber,no carbs,and two grams of protein, which is great because I can add quite a bit of spinach to my daily produce intake and still feel good about it. This diet is great,but I found that when I don’t eat enough greens on my low carb days I start feeling like shit,so spinach has really come in handy.

[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
So,how is everyone with eating spinach?
I’ve always ate spinach (about two pounds a week) since the whole spinach scare and E coli link, I’ve started back on organic spinach,although there wasn’t any E Coli found on organic spinach.

The organic spinach I bought has seven grams of fiber,no carbs,and two grams of protein, which is great because I can add quite a bit of spinach to my daily produce intake and still feel good about it. This diet is great,but I found that when I don’t eat enough greens on my low carb days I start feeling like shit,so spinach has really come in handy.
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i feel safe eating it…imean i always cook mine in eggs i never have it just plain or raw…thats what my broccolis for

HEY GUYS:

i have been reading these threads for a few weeks now but i got a question?

i have a diet just like this from beverly international. they have the same breakdowns as far as protein/fat/carbs, but they say that the protein should be the highest then the fats then the low carbs,

what is the difference between the 2? other than one has higher fats and the other higher proteins?

[quote]j2048b wrote:
HEY GUYS:

i have been reading these threads for a few weeks now but i got a question?

i have a diet just like this from beverly international. they have the same breakdowns as far as protein/fat/carbs, but they say that the protein should be the highest then the fats then the low carbs,

what is the difference between the 2? other than one has higher fats and the other higher proteins?

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yeah having protein higher than fat will make your body more keen to process protein for energy using gluconeogenesis. This will make life shitty for your protein synthesis, muscularly speaking. This will cause your body to become more effective at using protein (aka muscle) for energy, therefore making you skinny and womanly. If you go to prison and you’re skinny and womanly, well… It’s not good, unless you’re into that. Then it’s great I suppose.

So no keep grams of fat and grams of pro roughly evenish. This will mkae cals of fat/pro roughly 2/1. eat only vegetable based carbs.

-chris

[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
k anyone have any idea why (day after carb up) i go to practice feeling good then by the end im gassed more than ever…[/quote]

glyco depletion. trian on low cho days. CHO up on off days. Plus, after CHO up pancreatic activity is likely more sensitive and active. This is great for strength training only but poor for endurance freaks. Too much pancreatic activity creates energy drops. get some taurine tablets and take 500mg before training and then again half way through. That shit will help keep you constant and focused. spike will also work.

-chris

[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
So,how is everyone with eating spinach?
I’ve always ate spinach (about two pounds a week) since the whole spinach scare and E coli link, I’ve started back on organic spinach,although there wasn’t any E Coli found on organic spinach.

The organic spinach I bought has seven grams of fiber,no carbs,and two grams of protein, which is great because I can add quite a bit of spinach to my daily produce intake and still feel good about it. This diet is great,but I found that when I don’t eat enough greens on my low carb days I start feeling like shit,so spinach has really come in handy.
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with a fork??

j/k I eat it with eggs and in salads with lots of olives and feta cheese, EVOO and vinegar. Then again apart from broccoli and cheese eggs are pretty much all I eat. put some ground beef and veggies in there with Jamaican jerk sauce (I don’t know where they get the name from. Every Jamaican guy I’ve met has been totally pleasant and nice).

-chris

[quote]OMC wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a big bag of maltodextrin or glucose online??? I want to make my own weight gainers for post workout. Anyone got opinions on which of the two to go for?[/quote]

why not just go down to the store and get some liquid glucose? you live in the states right? I’ve seen your grocery stores, they’re huge. that way you don’t pay for shipping.

-chris

[quote]YoungGunner wrote:
ya, ketosis isn’t a huge deal, you don’t need to have the sticks say you’re in ketosis to have fat as you main energy source.

But, ya on the splenda is you read the packs it has spelnda, maltodextrin and dextrose and IS NOT CALORIE or CARB FREE because of that. spenlda itself is really sweet and small so they had to put in two bulking agents. (note they are the same high GI sugary carbs people have post workout)[/quote]

But even those two other sugars have had their enrgy substrate altered to negate any insulin response. But there are trace CHO in splenda. calories are neg. I’ve burnt the calories in 3/4 cup of splenda typing this. Long and short is that splend should not keep you out of ketosis. that sould be… surprising.

-chris

[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
j2048b wrote:
HEY GUYS:

i have been reading these threads for a few weeks now but i got a question?

i have a diet just like this from beverly international. they have the same breakdowns as far as protein/fat/carbs, but they say that the protein should be the highest then the fats then the low carbs,

what is the difference between the 2? other than one has higher fats and the other higher proteins?

yeah having protein higher than fat will make your body more keen to process protein for energy using gluconeogenesis. This will make life shitty for your protein synthesis, muscularly speaking. This will cause your body to become more effective at using protein (aka muscle) for energy, therefore making you skinny and womanly. If you go to prison and you’re skinny and womanly, well… It’s not good, unless you’re into that. Then it’s great I suppose.

So no keep grams of fat and grams of pro roughly evenish. This will mkae cals of fat/pro roughly 2/1. eat only vegetable based carbs.

-chris[/quote]

wonderful analogy chris…way to scare him from the high protein diet

[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
<<< Thanks, I was going to stop at 180lbs, but I now figure that I’ll continue a bulk until March/April. Then?? We’ll see.
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UH HUH, that’s about what happened to me =] I started this thinking I’ll just shape up some more and drop some fat. After getting a taste of real gains again I forgot about trying to get leaner and went for more gains. They are happily coming too.

Great job man!!! good to hear things are progressing well.

[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
<<< yeah having protein higher than fat will make your body more keen to process protein for energy using gluconeogenesis. This will make life shitty for your protein synthesis, muscularly speaking. This will cause your body to become more effective at using protein (aka muscle) for energy, >>>[/quote]

Yep. This also is one of the reasons why I prefer evoo to protein before morning cardio. I could be wrong, but I can’t help thinking it’s a mistake to give my metabolism protein when I’m about to burn a bunch of calories.

[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
So,how is everyone with eating spinach?
I’ve always ate spinach (about two pounds a week) since the whole spinach scare and E coli link, I’ve started back on organic spinach,although there wasn’t any E Coli found on organic spinach.

The organic spinach I bought has seven grams of fiber,no carbs,and two grams of protein, which is great because I can add quite a bit of spinach to my daily produce intake and still feel good about it. This diet is great,but I found that when I don’t eat enough greens on my low carb days I start feeling like shit,so spinach has really come in handy.
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I eat a lot of spinach. There’s a small market by us that sells it really fresh for a buck a bag. They also have big bunches of broccoli for a buck which I also partake of freely. Raw garlic is also one of my daily habits as is celery.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
<<< Thanks, I was going to stop at 180lbs, but I now figure that I’ll continue a bulk until March/April. Then?? We’ll see.

UH HUH, that’s about what happened to me =] I started this thinking I’ll just shape up some more and drop some fat. After getting a taste of real gains again I forgot about trying to get leaner and went for more gains. They are happily coming too.

Great job man!!! good to hear things are progressing well.[/quote]

lol

It really is something to get jazzed about, huh? And addictive…once those gains start coming, one can easily want more and more…

It was something, really. For the first 2 months, I saw no weight gain (on the scale), but I ignored it and kept going (DH said a long time ago to ignore the scale).

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Does anyone have thoughts about how effective creatine supplementation will be on this diet? I’ve started adding 5g daily into my workout shake (a scoop of whey with a little heavy cream). I’m concerned that all the literature I’ve encountered has suggested that sugars are an important part of making sure that creatine is actually stored in the muscle bellies. Without significant carbs on a daily basis, will the creatine still be used, or will I be pissing away my money (both literally and figuratively)?

Would it be possible to take in enough creatine during the weekend carb up to use throughout the week (like we do with glycogen)?

hello, im new to the thread but have been on this diet for a while. i have a problem. im 6ft 204 lbs and samoan so i have a hard time getting rid of some body fat…im eating a ton of fat but it feels as if im getting fat for some reason…the only way for me to get rid of my fat is starving myself!! i have been competing in jiu jitsu tornaments for a couple years so im pretty active. can anyone help me?

[quote]industrialplaid wrote:
Does anyone have thoughts about how effective creatine supplementation will be on this diet? I’ve started adding 5g daily into my workout shake (a scoop of whey with a little heavy cream). I’m concerned that all the literature I’ve encountered has suggested that sugars are an important part of making sure that creatine is actually stored in the muscle bellies. Without significant carbs on a daily basis, will the creatine still be used, or will I be pissing away my money (both literally and figuratively)?

Would it be possible to take in enough creatine during the weekend carb up to use throughout the week (like we do with glycogen)?[/quote]

As has been said a few times on this monstrous thread, while we will probably get enough “creating” through our carnivorous feasts, it has been linked to better protein absorption (post workout). So it’s a good thing to take creatine.

Personally, I’d take creatine for about 6-8 weeks (every day) and then take a week break from it.

[quote]thehorse65 wrote:
hello, im new to the thread but have been on this diet for a while. i have a problem. im 6ft 204 lbs and samoan so i have a hard time getting rid of some body fat…im eating a ton of fat but it feels as if im getting fat for some reason…the only way for me to get rid of my fat is starving myself!! i have been competing in jiu jitsu tornaments for a couple years so im pretty active. can anyone help me?[/quote]

pls write here all u eat everyday and what workout u follow so the experts can really help u .