I am an unstoppable eating machine. I’m getting ready for my carb up tomarrow; pulled pork sandwiches, a pound or so of bananas, plums, a honeydew, barbecue beans and some gumbo left over from last weeks carb up.
I’ll probably eat some fast food too.
mmmmmmm…
NM, I knew it was a joke, buddy. Just giving you a hard time. And by any chance would that city be Detroit, MI?
Most of what I say is in the “just kiddin” realm. Don’t want you to to not be aware that I’m a “chop buster”. Of course you may not know that colloquialism. Dave Barr has some trouble with good ol’ American slang, too. 
We still luv you Canucks, though, eh?
DH
[quote]Nate Mack wrote:
I don’t really consider myself a liberal, lol. But I know a few people that have had encounters minutes away from the Canada-U.S. border. A shotgun was pointed in the face of a friend of mine. I know for a fact that not all of America is like this, but the particular city I’m talking about does have a bad rep. I think we know what city I am talking about…All in all, it was a joke.
So DH, is it worth it or not? =)[/quote]
Oh, and everything washed down in chocolate milk…
Heaven is just a spoon away… and so is Hell.
Enjoy.
DH
[quote]conorh wrote:
I am an unstoppable eating machine. I’m getting ready for my carb up tomarrow; pulled pork sandwiches, a pound or so of bananas, plums, a honeydew, barbecue beans and some gumbo left over from last weeks carb up.
I’ll probably eat some fast food too.
mmmmmmm…[/quote]
Well…Here I am sittin’ pretty at day 6. I may have had a bit of a “crash” yesterday, but I think I might just have gotten my ass beat down by the X-Vest “century circuit”. Has anyone tried this? Holy shit! I was just looking for some good general GPP, so I did it with 18lbs in the vest, knocked me out for about 6 hrs after.
So far no changes other than the expected 5-ish lbs of water/glycogen weight. BF% levels are at baseline (~10%). I’m closer to my maintanence level, but I may have to take cals a bit higher. I have been hitting ~35%Pro, ~62%Fat, and ~3%CHO consistently for the past 4 days.
Thanks to everyone posting to make this thread one of the hottest on T-Nation! This diet would be a great deal more difficult if not for the tips and tricks everyone has shared with those of us who are just starting out. Thanks!
DH,
I was fully aware that you were a chop buster, lol. I must confess that I used to follow you around the forums because I found your approach to nutrition very interesting. I actually typed your handle into the search engine to see when/what you were posting. (sad isn’t it?) After reading your posts, I decided to buy the Anabolic Solution. I couldn’t find the old AD. I would pay to NOT see the supplement ads.
Anywho, I just wanted to say thanks and that you have been extremely helpful to everyone that has been interested in the AD. I’m only on day 5, but I’m feeling awesome and havn’t felt any ill effects as of yet.
Oh, and yea, the city is Detroit. I live in Windsor, which is right across the river. After you cross that bridge or tunnel, it’s a different world. However being a Canadian, I think I’m just going to paddle my canoe across the river and then buy all my Hood beverages. It’ll be easy, I have no doot aboot it, eh.
NM
;-0.
My own net stalker… I’m flattered.
I should be easy to hunt. Most large, dumb animals are. (no letters from PETA please as I have 2 dogs, 3 cats, 1 hamster, 2 frogs, 5 fish, 2 anoles, and 1 huge horsefly that won’t leave my kitchen)
If you want to snag me then hit my name by the icon and then check out my post history. OR, of course, I’ve parked myself here on MDragon’s thread.
I always enjoy helping anybody out. BB needs more comraderie and less arrogance. Easy for me as I’m a people person.
Best,
DH
[quote]Nate Mack wrote:
DH,
I was fully aware that you were a chop buster, lol. I must confess that I used to follow you around the forums because I found your approach to nutrition very interesting. I actually typed your handle into the search engine to see when/what you were posting. (sad isn’t it?) After reading your posts, I decided to buy the Anabolic Solution. I couldn’t find the old AD. I would pay to NOT see the supplement ads.
Anywho, I just wanted to say thanks and that you have been extremely helpful to everyone that has been interested in the AD. I’m only on day 5, but I’m feeling awesome and havn’t felt any ill effects as of yet.
Oh, and yea, the city is Detroit. I live in Windsor, which is right across the river. After you cross that bridge or tunnel, it’s a different world. However being a Canadian, I think I’m just going to paddle my canoe across the river and then buy all my Hood beverages. It’ll be easy, I have no doot aboot it, eh.
NM[/quote]
Thanx for the response, DH.
Typical day:
Meal One- 6 eggs, 215g of chicken, 2 tbsp olive oil, some bacon
Meal Two - 3oz cheddar cheese, 4oz sausage, 6-8 slices of bacon
Meal Three - Protein shake (3 net carbs), 10tsp fish oil, 2 tbsp olive oil
Meal Five - 8oz beef, several ounces of cheese, olive oil, and some pepperoni
Meal Six - 17 pepperoni, 147g chicken, 3-4 ounces cheese
I eat lots of sausage, pepperoni, sometime salmon (though it has a higher CHO content), olive oil, fish oil, real butter to coat the skillet for the eggs, bacon, etc.
I use either the AD’s site calculator or the USDA calculator to make sure that I’m hitting my FAT and PRO levels and keeping the CHO low.
I’ve had no difficulty with shitting, but do think I need to figure out the whole veggie thing after the intitial 12-day shift. I need more fiber for sure. My water intake is almost 2 gallons, and I also drink a bit of green tea.
Not sure where the CHO would be coming from, DH… I took my weight and multiplied it by 18 and basically keep each meal between 40-60% Fat, 40-50% Pro, and 4-10% CHO. Usually lower on the CHO and higher on the Fat. I figure if I stay within these ranges for each meal, my daily totals will work out. I’m also cycling daily totals a bit, per your suggestion to monitor weekly totals versus daily.
Suggestions?
Wow, my second carb up day is almost over. What shall I do with myself? Eat lots of bacon and eggs and cheese and bacon and steak that’s what! Man I love the AD. I actually can’t wait to eat my cheesy, eggy and bacon surprise for breakfast tomorrow. My diet this last few days has been carbed up to the extreme, but I have had no junk only clean foods.
I trained the past two days and I have had great workouts. Today I had a three scoop serving Surge during and after my workout! I have two more meals until bed time and I think they are gonna be PF meals. I think I have had enough carbs until next Saturday:) To all my brothers still struggling with the first 12 days, it only gets better. At least it has for me:)
Joe
On what vasudeva wrote:
Looks good overall. Check out the list of veggies that Il Cazzo and I mentioned earlier. Do a search to see if you can find a listing of veggies. Might be cool to post it.
Best,
DH
Hey Low Carb Brothers
And to think a year ago I was telling this guy on the Atkins he was an idiot. Well I still wouldn’t do Atkins. F’ that. I started Thrs. night and went through today Saturday. (opps thought it was 48 hours)
I’m going to wake up have a shit load of bacon and a few eggs then go train like a freakin animal! PETA F’ you! Ok I think I like the low carb high fat days better than the High Carb days. DH, IL and Moh. you guys are awesome. I hope to report ripping the damn handles off the farmers bars in the morning. BTW thank you for camping on this site DH I’m in your world bro! DH just remember you may be a humble BB but you still utilize the 2.5 lb weights. Just me bustin some chops. Doh! Good night gentlemen…
OK folks, today was day 1 on the AD. So far, so good. I felt very alert all day and a bit more aggressive than usual. Normally I’m already asleep by now, but here I am typing away. I actually found it difficult to eat as much as I should since the high fat really satisfies the appetite.
I have a question for all of you fellow ADers out there: Where is this frequently mentioned 12-day break in period coming from? I have the PDF version of the AD book and I cannot find any reference to such a period, at least not to 12 days in particular. Can someone explain?
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Heaven is just a spoon away… and so is Hell.
Enjoy.
DH
conorh wrote:
I am an unstoppable eating machine. I’m getting ready for my carb up tomarrow; pulled pork sandwiches, a pound or so of bananas, plums, a honeydew, barbecue beans and some gumbo left over from last weeks carb up.
I’ll probably eat some fast food too.
mmmmmmm…
[/quote]
So DH, you just bustin on me, or do you think I can do that much damage in one day?
My load starts after work on Sunday at 7:00 AM, and goes until sometime tonight, prolly 10 or 11 pm. I figure I can’t possibly do that much damage in 16 hours, can I?
Oh, and I freeze everything I don’t eat, for next week…
conorH,
No problems. Just chop bustin’ Tear it up and then get out. Usually 24-36 hours is best for people with ravenous appetities. Your time frame will be fine, but make sure to get a good quantity in. Your giving yourself a small amount of time, so as an estimate try for 400-500g CHO minimum and as much as 800-1000 if you are looking to gain.
DH
On carb duration:
12-48 are the extremes. If you have a slow/normal caloric intake then the longer end works better. Also if you are lean to begin with. More cals will go toward more lean.
Most like 36 hours which if timed right is basically 2 full days. Like my earlier examples. Starting Saturday morning and going till Sunday evening is effectively “2” days of eating CHO. I’ve also done 4pm on Friday (after work) till Saturday night (11pm). This is about 30 hours. I’ll do a shorter one if I know I’m gonna really hammer the calories at a buffet or something. Other times, I’m not so crazy about the carbs and it takes a bit longer to get it all in. The idea is to get enough to saturate your muscles and a bit extra to create some glycogen supercompensation. Once this is done, whether 12 hours or up to 48, you have achieved your goal. The mirror is your best buddy on this because you must guage your fullness in the muscle against excess smootheness. This can vary big time from person to person. So stick in the above ranges and try for a bare minimum of 300g CHO no matter what your goal (such as cutting) and feel free to hit 1000g CHO over the 2 days if you’re feeling good.
Your best day for training with big numbers will be within a day or two of the load. Toward the end of the week, use heavy loads still (none of that marathon Dan Duchaine glycogen depletion) as this is fine when your stores are lower. High reps drain the glycogen much faster.
Somewhere around Tues, Wed, or Thurs, you’ll see where you look best. The optimal combo of being full in the muscle and low on water retention. Once you know your body’s cycle you can use this to your advantage when you want to hit the beach or impress the GF/wife.
DH
Your comments about feeling soft make sense. Had an awesome day in the gym today. I’m wondering when this crash is going to occur… I’m a full 7 days into it and feel great (minus headaches). I pissed on a ketostix and noticed that I’m not in a state of ketosis. Normal, right? Didn’t Doc D talk about not actually being in a state of ketosis? Or should I be during the first 12 days?
I’m thinking I will eventually need to monitor my fat intake some. It is so high. Doesn’t he talk about lowering fat levels during cutting phases, while maintaining protein and carbs to force the body to utilize fat stores? Tomorrow is the real test… ME lower day.
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
The mirror is your best buddy on this because you must guage your fullness in the muscle against excess smootheness. This can vary big time from person to person. So stick in the above ranges and try for a bare minimum of 300g CHO no matter what your goal (such as cutting) and feel free to hit 1000g CHO over the 2 days if you’re feeling good.
DH
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I’ve been slightly confused throughout by the descriptions of “smoothness”. Could you elaborate, or is it one of those “you’ll know it when you feel it” things?
Question for IL Cazzo or Disc Hoss:
Can either of you gents explain where the 12-day break in period mentioned on this thread is coming from? I have the Anabolic Diet PDF book and I cannot find any reference to such a thing. As far as I read it, Dr.D says the first week is the same as all the rest. What’s up with that?
[quote]jerinevans wrote:
Question for IL Cazzo or Disc Hoss:
Can either of you gents explain where the 12-day break in period mentioned on this thread is coming from? I have the Anabolic Diet PDF book and I cannot find any reference to such a thing. As far as I read it, Dr.D says the first week is the same as all the rest. What’s up with that?[/quote]
I’m not IC or DH, but I’ll jump in here since this is the second time your asking…
The 12 day approach is in the Anabolic Solution. Dr. D suggests it as one method to ensure full switch over to a fat burning metabolism as quickly as possible. He states that one can do it by jumping right into the 5 on/2 off pattern, but that it can take up to a month for some people to make the conversion that way.
Is it worth buying the ad if I have the metabolic diet.
I think the strict version that he gives of the metabolic diet is the same as the ad
Is that right?
thx