Was already looking at the Low-Carb Grow!. Not into other supps though.
The Cocky poster boy for the AD, you guy’s crack me up. This morning I weighed in at 191. I started the AD at 205. My BF has went down 2%, but I am pretty sure that is from the water and glycogen loss. So far the carb up and today’s workout have went great. Here’s what I have ate so far today:
Meal one. Two cups oats (uncooked weight), one cup of mixed berries, 2 scoops of Low-Carb Grow!, and a banana.
Meal two: The same as above.
Meal three: during workout 3 scoops of Surge (I got four tubs to use up somehow:)
Meal four: PWO half a BBQ chicken all white meat and three sweet potatoes and cole slaw. meal five: will be one cup of brown rice with soy sauce and a boneless skinless chicken breast.
Meal six will be 1 cup full fat cottage cheese, 1/2 scoop of Low-Carb Grow!, 1 tblsp of flax and olive oil and 10 fish oil caps.
Tomorrow I will basically eat the same thing minus the BBQ chicken PWO. I think I might try and take two fish oil caps with each meal instead of all of them at once. I don’t think I will eat any junk on my carb up day’s for I while . I want to gain some more LBM while getting ripped:)
Joe
Kind of off topic, but I’ve been hearing a lot of good things about the Hood low carb dairy beverages. Does anyone know if it’s available in Canada? Also, to the people who have tried it, is it worth going to the U.S. to get it? I can see the U.S. from my house, so time or distance isn’t an issue. It would just be the damn toll fee’s and chance of getting car jacked =)
I love the Hood low carb milk! I am lactose intolerant so they are such a blessing, and with less carbs and more protien to boot! If you are used to drinking skim milk then you will not notice a huge difference between the skim low carb and regular skim. The chocolate is very thick and rich but has 12grams protien per 8oz.
No need to eradicate the protein. You should play around with this. Just make sure that you’re getting at least 40-50% of your daily intake as carbo. YOU may do OK with lots of protein. I’ve wondered if keeping it a bit low for a day or two might increase uptake thereafter. Doc says some do very well on 60C/30F/10P. I go more 50C/30F/20P overall. But then again this is by mental notation. Who wants/needs to count calories when the buffet is calling…
Bottom line: Get enough carbs and don’t exceed 36 hours (for now to see how you do).
DH
[quote]mdragon wrote:
So your saying cut out the protien? Should I just stick to potatoes, pasta, and oatmeal? I’m not too sure what this should look like. I’ll heed your advice…
Disc Hoss wrote:
WHOA, MD. You might want to keep protein a little more controlled and get more carbos. The load should be controlled protein. Just a tip from a veteran.
DH
mdragon wrote:
Last night I started my Carb load. Two whoppers from burger king, water and a few french fries at 6pm. Pasta, red sauce and chicken at about 8pm. This morning Oatmeal and blueberries. I’m feeling good other than having crappy sleep because my daughter is sick and teething at the same time. So I was up and down about 20 times. I think I’ll give her some vodka tonight. J/K.
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NM,
I don’t know squat about Canadian imports but that comment about getting car jacked is hilarious. I’m not offended…really…liberal Canuck!
Nearly chocked on my banana when I read that.
DH
I would like to say that anytime we can, I’m all for supporting Biotest. We get an awesome service for free and they deserve some green backs. How else they gonna feed C’Dub and Thib or pay for that hair transplant that Dave Barr is sporting…
AD friendly stuff:
Grow!: (Low-Carb and top notch with some whipping cream or half/half)
Power Drive: (my other coffee, especially later in the week)
Alpha Male, M, Carbolin 19: All good to use on any dietary scheme.
HOT-ROX: Awesome for a cutting cycle
ZMA: Quality product for any diet
Surge: Yes, Surge, use it after your weekend workouts while carbing up. This sucker is a bullet of a ride on the AD loading phase.
My one hope… a Biotest EAA product and/or a hydrolyzed only product that sports an exceptional hydrolysis percentage with a very low MW (say 500 daltons or less.) Give us low carbers a new pre and post option during the week.
Don’t think the AD is “anti-Surge”. If anything, we can get better than average results because we are seriously primed for this big dog. Think of it as a timed juggernaut. Only bring it out on the loads.
Best,
DH
Hey DH,
Any thoughts on Methoxy-7? I have two bottles that I was planning on taking earlier this year, never got around to it. Same with 8 tubs Low_Carb Grow!, 1 bottle HOT-ROX, and 1 tub Surge. Looking forward to busting those open once I get really cranking on the AD, (after, say, 2mo or so).
It’s all a “go”, just check the carb content on everything, and use the Surge for the carb load workouts.
Best,
DH
[quote]Charles Atlas wrote:
Hey DH,
Any thoughts on Methoxy-7? I have two bottles that I was planning on taking earlier this year, never got around to it. Same with 8 tubs Low_Carb Grow!, 1 bottle HOT-ROX, and 1 tub Surge. Looking forward to busting those open once I get really cranking on the AD, (after, say, 2mo or so).[/quote]
Hey DH,
You seem to really have some experience with the AD Diet, and I must say reading your post is what got me interest since I been introduced to it before but decided not to try well I was able to drop 44pds on the velocity diet in the 6week run ,However although I lost that pronounced gut the middle section has been a tough one to tone out like I want I say maybe its time to change the approach mix it up a little, Its been a little over 3months off velocity and my weight has been steady, now 3days on the AD and I got 10pd up swing yada yada what?s going on, not mention seems to be softening round the gut a little I am afraid to press on I am not really a Carb Craver so I thought this would be easy to finally pack lean muscle and cut. I also though some micronize createne in the mix HOT-ROX, Alpha Male, Methoxy-7 Hey because I already had them on hand to use. Also is there optimal time to use Createne? I usually just make sure I use 5g daily in my 8oz Power Drive drink. This gaining scares me and work outs are crap to the max velocity I got better WK Outs I know I am just starting I just want to know were I am going wrong Help!! Or anyone else that can respond with knowledge
I don’t really consider myself a liberal, lol. But I know a few people that have had encounters minutes away from the Canada-U.S. border. A shotgun was pointed in the face of a friend of mine. I know for a fact that not all of America is like this, but the particular city I’m talking about does have a bad rep. I think we know what city I am talking about…All in all, it was a joke.
So DH, is it worth it or not? =)
[quote]Charles Atlas wrote:
Hey DH,
Any thoughts on Methoxy-7? I have two bottles that I was planning on taking earlier this year, never got around to it. Same with 8 tubs Low_Carb Grow!, 1 bottle HOT-ROX, and 1 tub Surge. Looking forward to busting those open once I get really cranking on the AD, (after, say, 2mo or so).[/quote]
Methoxy was one of my favorite supplements ever. I haven’t used the new version though. Basically, anything that you would normally use can be used on the AD, just check the carb count, as DH said.
[quote]vasudeva wrote:
I’m on Day 5 of the initial 12 day. My energy level is high. The only problem is that I have a constant headache, which intensifies greatly when I lift. Is this normal or a derivative of the AD?[/quote]
Did you have any issues gaining wieght say 10 or so pounds when you first started,thats my case and I would like to know is that normal I am not sure its just muscle cause my middle seems to be softning
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
Charles Atlas wrote:
Hey DH,
Any thoughts on Methoxy-7? I have two bottles that I was planning on taking earlier this year, never got around to it. Same with 8 tubs Low_Carb Grow!, 1 bottle HOT-ROX, and 1 tub Surge. Looking forward to busting those open once I get really cranking on the AD, (after, say, 2mo or so).
Methoxy was one of my favorite supplements ever. I haven’t used the new version though. Basically, anything that you would normally use can be used on the AD, just check the carb count, as DH said.[/quote]
Hey did you see my post for DH about gaining posible fat starting off with AD
I’m on Day 6. While I started the AD with about 10% BF, I haven’t noticed any weight gain or loss, though I am feeling softer. However, my lift numbers are on track. The only problem seems to be the headaches. Overall, my energy is much higher than before I started, and I’m taking in less than 20g of CHO/day.
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
Charles Atlas wrote:
Hey DH,
Any thoughts on Methoxy-7? I have two bottles that I was planning on taking earlier this year, never got around to it. Same with 8 tubs Low-Carb Grow!, 1 bottle HOT-ROX, and 1 tub Surge. Looking forward to busting those open once I get really cranking on the AD, (after, say, 2mo or so).
Methoxy was one of my favorite supplements ever. I haven’t used the new version though. Basically, anything that you would normally use can be used on the AD, just check the carb count, as DH said.[/quote]
Sweet. I’m probably not going to go on it until I get the AD figured out, but good to know. Thanks DH and IC.
FYI-For anyone concerned about it, the new Methoxy-7 contains no carbs, (at least not my bottles of it).
[quote]vasudeva wrote:
I’m on Day 6. While I started the AD with about 10% BF, I haven’t noticed any weight gain or loss, though I am feeling softer. However, my lift numbers are on track. The only problem seems to be the headaches. Overall, my energy is much higher than before I started, and I’m taking in less than 20g of CHO/day. [/quote]
What is a typical 20g carb less day consist of for you? Do you mind sharing I dont think I am suppose to gain that much wieght, I wonder if the sups are a factor maybe water retention since you say that the softening seems not to be out of the ordinary.
Rancho,
Take your bodyweight and multiply x12.
Example for you to see:
200lbs x 12 = 2400 cals.
33%P
2400 x .33 = 800 cals (200g Pro)
5%CHO
2400 x .05 = 120 cals (30g CHO)
62%Fat
2400 x .62 = 1488 cals (@ 165g Fat)
Do this for 6 days per week. Do 1 carb up day and make it a workout day too. Eat mostly clean carbs with little (or no if you choose) junk.
This will be easier for you to get leaner and then you can bump up to the standard AD later.
If you picked up 10 lbs in 3 days then it certainly is not fat. Now, if this is from a carb load (which it should not be until after you do the break in phase) then it is sugar/water weight. If you picked up 10 lbs on low carb food, then you NEED a fiber supp, big time. Seriously. It is physically impossible to gain 10 lbs in 3 days unless you are still holding the actual food in your body.
Give me more details, get 20+ grams of fiber per day mixed with lots of water, eat plenty of veggies, make sure you’re hitting the ol’ head for the #2 at least 1-2x per day.
If you’ve got some HOT-ROX, start using them.
Check your resting body temp (BEFORE you move or get up) with a thermometer. Digital may be easier to read for you. We are looking for a consistent number each day. The thermo may not be all that exact on your actual temp, but as long as it is the same thermo every day, you will see a trend. Do this for 3 days of normal eating before the AD. If you have to, take this weekend off the AD and restart on Monday the 27th. We need a baseline number on your morning temp. Then we will see if your thyroid is still operating efficiently with 6day/1day cycle.
Clear?
DH
[quote]rancho wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
Charles Atlas wrote:
Hey DH,
Any thoughts on Methoxy-7? I have two bottles that I was planning on taking earlier this year, never got around to it. Same with 8 tubs Low_Carb Grow!, 1 bottle HOT-ROX, and 1 tub Surge. Looking forward to busting those open once I get really cranking on the AD, (after, say, 2mo or so).
Methoxy was one of my favorite supplements ever. I haven’t used the new version though. Basically, anything that you would normally use can be used on the AD, just check the carb count, as DH said.
Hey did you see my post for DH about gaining posible fat starting off with AD
[/quote]
Softening is a normal phenomenon. You have evacuated all the extra glycogen and water from your tissue. Once your body learns how to use fats for energy and be carb stingy, you’ll be more balanced. Just console yourself with the fact that #1: This was not muscle you lost so you lost nothing of any value, #2: You will have the reverse after you load, #3: This “softening” will be much less severe when you fully adapt.
Let me emphasize:
This diet WILL be a little crazy at first. But you’ll be cruisin’ soon enough. It all depends on your mental toughness. Some walk away while they are on the precipice of breakthrough. Too bad.
Thursday and Friday are what I call my dry days. You’ll be leaner looking from the low water retention and eventually these may be your favorite days. We are essentially putting a bodybuilding contest prep cycle inside of a week each week. You’ll learn your best days and enjoy knowing that you’re optimizing your hormones for peak anabolic response.
DH.
And one more itty bitty piece of advice, MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT GETTING TOO MANY CARBS. Many, and I repeat, many people, no matter how many times it is said, do not fully understand that you must count ANY thing of any substance (liquid or solid) that goes into your mouth. All of it. Of course oxygen is carb free.
quote]vasudeva wrote:
I’m on Day 6. While I started the AD with about 10% BF, I haven’t noticed any weight gain or loss, though I am feeling softer. However, my lift numbers are on track. The only problem seems to be the headaches. Overall, my energy is much higher than before I started, and I’m taking in less than 20g of CHO/day. [/quote]
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Rancho,
Take your bodyweight and multiply x12.
Example for you to see:
200lbs x 12 = 2400 cals.
33%P
2400 x .33 = 800 cals (200g Pro)
5%CHO
2400 x .05 = 120 cals (30g CHO)
62%Fat
2400 x .62 = 1488 cals (@ 165g Fat)
Do this for 6 days per week. Do 1 carb up day and make it a workout day too. Eat mostly clean carbs with little (or no if you choose) junk.
This will be easier for you to get leaner and then you can bump up to the standard AD later.
If you picked up 10 lbs in 3 days then it certainly is not fat. Now, if this is from a carb load (which it should not be until after you do the break in phase) then it is sugar/water weight. If you picked up 10 lbs on low carb food, then you NEED a fiber supp, big time. Seriously. It is physically impossible to gain 10 lbs in 3 days unless you are still holding the actual food in your body.
Give me more details, get 20+ grams of fiber per day mixed with lots of water, eat plenty of veggies, make sure you’re hitting the ol’ head for the #2 at least 1-2x per day.
If you’ve got some HOT-ROX, start using them.
Check your resting body temp (BEFORE you move or get up) with a thermometer. Digital may be easier to read for you. We are looking for a consistent number each day. The thermo may not be all that exact on your actual temp, but as long as it is the same thermo every day, you will see a trend. Do this for 3 days of normal eating before the AD. If you have to, take this weekend off the AD and restart on Monday the 27th. We need a baseline number on your morning temp. Then we will see if your thyroid is still operating efficiently with 6day/1day cycle.
Clear?
DH
rancho wrote:
IL Cazzo wrote:
Charles Atlas wrote:
Hey DH,
Any thoughts on Methoxy-7? I have two bottles that I was planning on taking earlier this year, never got around to it. Same with 8 tubs Low_Carb Grow!, 1 bottle HOT-ROX, and 1 tub Surge. Looking forward to busting those open once I get really cranking on the AD, (after, say, 2mo or so).
Methoxy was one of my favorite supplements ever. I haven’t used the new version though. Basically, anything that you would normally use can be used on the AD, just check the carb count, as DH said.
Hey did you see my post for DH about gaining posible fat starting off with AD
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Hey thanks Man you really came through with some detail info, yes and I think you are pobably wright about the need for a little more fiber will take those suggestions and put to use thanks again
Rancho