Yeah. With veggies, you need to eat them everyday with every meal it seems. If I miss one day or skip a few meals without them, my body notices it.
For fibre I am taking the Colon Cleanser caps - the powder had added carbs, the bastards - and it seems to be doing it’s roto-rooting job. That’s in addition to the steamed broccoli and veggies I get - I just like to get near that 30g of fibre.
Has anyone had their sleeping disrupted, particularly during the first part of the diet? I had been VLC beforehand - well over half in my PWO, but noticed that going whole hog made my sleeping a little lighter. Last night, however, after a day of carbing, I slept like a baby.
Oh, and what do you guys generally gain after a carb up? I only did one day - albeit at a most excellent buffet - and I was up 8 pounds. That’s about double what I expected. I know I will drop it by Friday but I was impressed. Today’s leg workout was great, too.
has any 1 tried the 10x1o weight training system while on ad if yes how was the result?
OK everybody, I am back on the AD! I strayed from the diet for a while once I found out that my cholesterol levels shot up months after starting. However, I am 99% sure that this was because I was eating TONS of bad fats and not enough good ones. Every day I would have eggs, bacon, 1/2 pound of garlic mozzarella, double cheeseburgers, etc. Some olive oil here and there, no fish oil caps (ordering Biotest’s new BCAA supp when it comes out). I should note here, though, that I looked the best at this point, having lost a lot of fat and put on some muscle as well.
Now, I am approaching this with a mindset that is focused on health as well: more lean proteins and good fats (nuts, olive oil, supplementation, good cheeses, etc.).
I have been eating pretty low carb until now anyway, with only a serving of fruit and pre/post workout supplementation. Usually under 100g of carbs per day. I adapt very quickly and easily to the AD.
Do you think I should still do the induction phase? In his eBook, Mauro states that people who have become fat-adapted can easily switch back to it even after falling off the bandwagon for a while. If I have to do the 12 days, I will, but I would like to start my first carb up this weekend (Friday night to Sat. night). Any signs I should look for at the end of the week to see if I should do the induction or not?
Glad to see this thread is still alive and well!
Yeah the AD is best kept healthy with the fats. they can be like steroids that are great for you or steroids that kill you. Work very hard to keep a 33/33/33 mix of fats. If i were you i would do the break in phase again for a few reasons:
A) faster re-transition
B) It’s great to CHO-detox your body, gets it primed for loading
C) serves you right for quitting ;o) and makes you pay your dues. Don’t be pussy and eat something taht had parents for 12 days 
-chris
[quote]justinf77 wrote:
OK everybody, I am back on the AD! I strayed from the diet for a while once I found out that my cholesterol levels shot up months after starting. However, I am 99% sure that this was because I was eating TONS of bad fats and not enough good ones. Every day I would have eggs, bacon, 1/2 pound of garlic mozzarella, double cheeseburgers, etc. Some olive oil here and there, no fish oil caps (ordering Biotest’s new BCAA supp when it comes out). I should note here, though, that I looked the best at this point, having lost a lot of fat and put on some muscle as well.
Now, I am approaching this with a mindset that is focused on health as well: more lean proteins and good fats (nuts, olive oil, supplementation, good cheeses, etc.).
I have been eating pretty low carb until now anyway, with only a serving of fruit and pre/post workout supplementation. Usually under 100g of carbs per day. I adapt very quickly and easily to the AD.
Do you think I should still do the induction phase? In his eBook, Mauro states that people who have become fat-adapted can easily switch back to it even after falling off the bandwagon for a while. If I have to do the 12 days, I will, but I would like to start my first carb up this weekend (Friday night to Sat. night). Any signs I should look for at the end of the week to see if I should do the induction or not?
Glad to see this thread is still alive and well![/quote]
Day 6 and man am I rockin and rollin. Im waiting for the crash(most say its around day 8-10 right?) But Im really feeling good.
My training volume is at an all time high right now as well, and despite that, Im still feeling great. So much for hard core endurance athletes and such not doing well on this type of diet.
It may just be my imagination, but my skin looks better.
Im not sure if it was the ZMA or this diet(or both) but I was dreaming of eating chocolate chip cookies all night.
Alright, i’ve read through about half of this thread and i’m convinced that I want to try this. It’s going to take me acouple more days to read through all 100+ pages of this thread but i’m going to try. I don’t want to be asking the same questions over and over again.
I’ve done my calorie breakdown and here it is:
220 x 18 = 3960 (4000) calories daily
First 12 days
Carbs ? 30 grams = 120 calories
Protein ? 350 g = 1400 calories
Fat ? 267 g = 2403 calories
= 3923 calories
How does this look?
I’m going to try to come up with some sort’ve menu tonight and do some grocery shopping. I’m not a big fan of red meat so this is going to be a challenge for me. I enjoy the occassional steak but it’s not something I want to eat multiple times a week. I do like hamburgers, seafood, pork and chicken though.
I’m still a little confused on which veggies I should eat daily and how much. I’m going to skim the thread again and reread the book to try to figure that out.
I’ll be taking Flameout, HOT-ROX Extreme, Metabolic Drive, alittle Surge and some Benefiber for supplements.
If anyone has any tips or tricks to share that would be cool. Otherwise, i’ll just try to get all the tips and tricks that have already been shared in this thread.
Only way to go dewd. If you don’t like red meat well then… shitty. I just try and eat a diversity of critters every day.
M1: would-be flyers (eggs)
M2: flyers (chicken)
M3: moo moo’s (beef)
M4: swimmers (tuna/salmon)
etc.
just eat what you like as far as meat. just think that hey, if it once had a face, you can eat it with no worries.
then just finish yourself off with veggies that are over half fiber or green as hell covered in olive oil and butter and ranch etc.
Pretty much if a caveman had access to it, you can eat it. there ae a few veggies to stay away from but other than that go ape shit. just don’t over eat any one thing. And get lots of fish in. I wish i live near the coast, I’d fish my ass off.
-chris
[quote]dre wrote:
Alright, i’ve read through about half of this thread and i’m convinced that I want to try this. It’s going to take me acouple more days to read through all 100+ pages of this thread but i’m going to try. I don’t want to be asking the same questions over and over again.
I’ve done my calorie breakdown and here it is:
220 x 18 = 3960 (4000) calories daily
First 12 days
Carbs ? 30 grams = 120 calories
Protein ? 350 g = 1400 calories
Fat ? 267 g = 2403 calories
= 3923 calories
How does this look?
I’m going to try to come up with some sort’ve menu tonight and do some grocery shopping. I’m not a big fan of red meat so this is going to be a challenge for me. I enjoy the occassional steak but it’s not something I want to eat multiple times a week. I do like hamburgers, seafood, pork and chicken though.
I’m still a little confused on which veggies I should eat daily and how much. I’m going to skim the thread again and reread the book to try to figure that out.
I’ll be taking Flameout, HOT-ROX Extreme, Metabolic Drive, alittle Surge and some Benefiber for supplements.
If anyone has any tips or tricks to share that would be cool. Otherwise, i’ll just try to get all the tips and tricks that have already been shared in this thread.[/quote]
I wonder if HOT-ROX is alright to take… because in the book the good Doctor says that ephedrine increases lipoysis but decreases fat oxidation.
[quote]DTAlexONE wrote:
I wonder if HOT-ROX is alright to take… because in the book the good Doctor says that ephedrine increases lipoysis but decreases fat oxidation. [/quote]
Yes, it’s fine, since there is no Ephedrine or ephedra in HOT-ROX or HOT-ROX ephedrine. In fact, I believe it came out after the ban with the tagline that it was more effective that ECA.
Don’t worry - pop till you drop.
[quote]DTAlexONE wrote:
in the book the good Doctor says that ephedrine increases lipoysis but decreases fat oxidation. [/quote]
I saw that as well.
Yet, later in the book, he has an advertisement for a pre-workout fat loss product called Resolve that contained ephedrine (before the ban - now it is ephedrine free) and states that it increases fat oxidation when used with the diet.
I think that’s something that isn’t stressed enough on this diet. Eat your veggies! Remember, fiber does not count against your CHO count. You have 30 non-fibrous carbs to play with, and you can pack in quite a few veggies with that amount, given that most cruciferous veggies are at minimum 1/2 to 3/4 fiber.
[quote]zdrax wrote:
I think that’s something that isn’t stressed enough on this diet. Eat your veggies! Remember, fiber does not count against your CHO count. You have 30 non-fibrous carbs to play with, and you can pack in quite a few veggies with that amount, given that most cruciferous veggies are at minimum 1/2 to 3/4 fiber.[/quote]
That’s something that i’ve been a little confused about so far. So, if I eat broccoli, cucumber, or spinach that doesn’t count against my carb intake? What about benefiber? I know that has 4g carbs in it. But since it’s fiber, it doesn’t count right? I’ve read half this thread and i’m still just a tad confused about that.
Basically certain veggies become unlimited in a sense. Spinach, broccoli, coliflower (sp?), etc. are so fiberous that:
A) once you see how much you need to get 30 g active CHO you realize that you would have to actually set yourself to the task of eating it. It’s more than you would eat in a day.
B) Because they are so much a percentage of fiber the active CHO they do contain is rarely ever used to create ATP. Because the active CHO are part of ‘insoluable fiber’ they are typically passed through and made inot poops.
C) you usually accompany these feax-carbs with perfectly good fat sources like EV olive oil. Since the digestion process is dynamic and constantly moving your body can only digest so much food from the time it goes in your mouth to the time it leaves your asshole. so in this time your GI tract gets whatever it can. Since it can’t digest insoluable fiber at all and it can digest fat, the fat becomes more bioavailable to your GI tract. it’s typically the ‘soluable’ fiber that can bring an active CHO with it, but those are not veggies. Eat veggies. don’t count benefiber.
-chris
[quote]dre wrote:
zdrax wrote:
I think that’s something that isn’t stressed enough on this diet. Eat your veggies! Remember, fiber does not count against your CHO count. You have 30 non-fibrous carbs to play with, and you can pack in quite a few veggies with that amount, given that most cruciferous veggies are at minimum 1/2 to 3/4 fiber.
That’s something that i’ve been a little confused about so far. So, if I eat broccoli, cucumber, or spinach that doesn’t count against my carb intake? What about benefiber? I know that has 4g carbs in it. But since it’s fiber, it doesn’t count right? I’ve read half this thread and i’m still just a tad confused about that.[/quote]
[quote]dre wrote:
That’s something that i’ve been a little confused about so far. So, if I eat broccoli, cucumber, or spinach that doesn’t count against my carb intake? What about benefiber? I know that has 4g carbs in it. But since it’s fiber, it doesn’t count right? I’ve read half this thread and i’m still just a tad confused about that.[/quote]
Dr. DiPasquale states that, “Fiber shouldn’t be counted as carbs because they’re not absorbed. So don’t include it as part of the 30 grams.”
I just discovered Buffalo brand chipotle sause, which claims to be “very hot” and “Mexico’s #1 hot sauces for 60 years.”
It’s good stuff, and it is pretty hot. No carbs, low sodium, great on scrambled eggs.
I’ve discovered that the mexican food section of the grocery store (or the mexican grocer, if you have one) is a fantastic resource for AD’ers.
Best part? It’s a buck and change for almost 6 ounces, which is plenty, unless you have a cast iron oral mucosa.
-Conor
Number one reason why the AD whoops huge ass:
buffalo/hot wings and ranch dressing.
I love chicken wings so much.
I also love them shaken in olive oil, mayo and malt vinegar. add some celery salt on that and come in your jocks.
-chris
[quote]conorh wrote:
I just discovered Buffalo brand chipotle sause, which claims to be “very hot” and “Mexico’s #1 hot sauces for 60 years.”
It’s good stuff, and it is pretty hot. No carbs, low sodium, great on scrambled eggs.
I’ve discovered that the mexican food section of the grocery store (or the mexican grocer, if you have one) is a fantastic resource for AD’ers.
Best part? It’s a buck and change for almost 6 ounces, which is plenty, unless you have a cast iron oral mucosa.
-Conor[/quote]
I’ve got a question about tomatoes. I just put a batch of meat chili to stew on the stove. I used a couple jalepenos, about half a bulb of garlic, a small white onion and two medium sized roma tomatoes. This will probably last me a couple days.
The onion’s probably about 10 grams of CHO according to the USDA nutrient database, and the tomatoes are probably about 10-15 each, again according to the USDA.
Think this is a bad move, or am I good to go?
This stuff, olive oil, flax seeds/wheat bran and a ton of whole eggs are about all I’m going to eat, so I feel pretty safe… but I want to hear what y’all think.
As an aside, large eggs, three dozen a dollar at my grocery store till tomarrow…
[quote]conorh wrote:
I’ve got a question about tomatoes. I just put a batch of meat chili to stew on the stove. I used a couple jalepenos, about half a bulb of garlic, a small white onion and two medium sized roma tomatoes. This will probably last me a couple days.
The onion’s probably about 10 grams of CHO according to the USDA nutrient database, and the tomatoes are probably about 10-15 each, again according to the USDA.
Think this is a bad move, or am I good to go?
This stuff, olive oil, flax seeds/wheat bran and a ton of whole eggs are about all I’m going to eat, so I feel pretty safe… but I want to hear what y’all think.
As an aside, large eggs, three dozen a dollar at my grocery store till tomarrow…[/quote]
Tomatos to have some fiber…and the lycopene is worth eating the tomatos for…I wouldn’t worry about them. Eat them guilt-free.
dude you’ve been on it for ages haven’t you?
If you’ve been on it for a couple months your body will not give a shit about some tomatos and onion. vegetable sugars hav almost a non-effect on insuline and blood sugar. think about energy pathways. How much energy are you getting from those tomato/onions? way less than 100 cals for all of them together. When you are getting over a couple thousand cals in fat your guts are definently going to maintain its lipids-as-primary-ATP-sources mode. Vegetable sugars other than corn and shit like that are no worries after a while.
-chris
nice work on the eggs. I was just thinking “If only I could just buy some chickens as pets…”
[quote]conorh wrote:
I’ve got a question about tomatoes. I just put a batch of meat chili to stew on the stove. I used a couple jalepenos, about half a bulb of garlic, a small white onion and two medium sized roma tomatoes. This will probably last me a couple days.
The onion’s probably about 10 grams of CHO according to the USDA nutrient database, and the tomatoes are probably about 10-15 each, again according to the USDA.
Think this is a bad move, or am I good to go?
This stuff, olive oil, flax seeds/wheat bran and a ton of whole eggs are about all I’m going to eat, so I feel pretty safe… but I want to hear what y’all think.
As an aside, large eggs, three dozen a dollar at my grocery store till tomarrow…[/quote]