[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
dude you’ve been on it for ages haven’t you?
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Yeah, with a brief hiatus where I let my bodyweight go crazy. The things I do just to be able to pick up heavy shit…
Anyway, I just didn’t know about 'maters because I’ve never liked them or eaten them in appreciable non-ketchup quantities. As I’ve gotten older, smarter and poorer I’ve learned to cook with and eat a wider variety of things, thus my question about the funky red veggie.
Thanks,
Conor
Oh dewd you are in a new world of fun. I try and make sure to get to tomato in every day of summer because It really helps you tan and protects your skin. Get the canned tomatos with italian herbs or another type of spice. They taste so good.
I used them to create my “death by beef” chili with, get this…
are you ready???
Ground beef AND steak (little cubes of lean round)!!!
Steak in chili!! the revolution will not be televised!!
Sometimes I also stick some goat in there. I love goat and sheep, you should get into them.
I love dishing up a bowl of chili and putting a sunny side up/over easy egg on top and going nuts. nothing is quite as good as frsh egg yolk in your chili. If you’re a real flash jonson at cooking you can use soft boiled eggs but i couldn’t be fuckt to boil eggs.
eat up.
-chris
[quote]conorh wrote:
realpeanutbutter wrote:
dude you’ve been on it for ages haven’t you?
Yeah, with a brief hiatus where I let my bodyweight go crazy. The things I do just to be able to pick up heavy shit…
Anyway, I just didn’t know about 'maters because I’ve never liked them or eaten them in appreciable non-ketchup quantities. As I’ve gotten older, smarter and poorer I’ve learned to cook with and eat a wider variety of things, thus my question about the funky red veggie.
Thanks,
Conor[/quote]
[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
Basically certain veggies become unlimited in a sense. Spinach, broccoli, coliflower (sp?), etc. are so fiberous that:
A) once you see how much you need to get 30 g active CHO you realize that you would have to actually set yourself to the task of eating it. It’s more than you would eat in a day.
B) Because they are so much a percentage of fiber the active CHO they do contain is rarely ever used to create ATP. Because the active CHO are part of ‘insoluable fiber’ they are typically passed through and made inot poops.
C) you usually accompany these feax-carbs with perfectly good fat sources like EV olive oil. Since the digestion process is dynamic and constantly moving your body can only digest so much food from the time it goes in your mouth to the time it leaves your asshole. so in this time your GI tract gets whatever it can. Since it can’t digest insoluable fiber at all and it can digest fat, the fat becomes more bioavailable to your GI tract. it’s typically the ‘soluable’ fiber that can bring an active CHO with it, but those are not veggies. Eat veggies. don’t count benefiber.
-chris
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Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up!
Chris, since you’re the fiber guru, If I take psyllium hulls or some 100% fiber supplement, would it cancel out any equal amount of other carbs taken at the same time? Or does the carb minus fiber equation only work when its in the same food?
[quote]allNatural wrote:
Chris, since you’re the fiber guru, If I take psyllium hulls or some 100% fiber supplement, would it cancel out any equal amount of other carbs taken at the same time? Or does the carb minus fiber equation only work when its in the same food?[/quote]
Doesn’t matter dude. Bottom line is:
Fiber - doesn’t count towards daily limit
Any other carbs- Do count toward the 30grm limit. Regardless of source or food combo being eaten at any given time.
Basically i second this. eat fiber stay away from sugar, starch and sugar acohols.
-chris
[quote]Deinabolic wrote:
allNatural wrote:
Chris, since you’re the fiber guru, If I take psyllium hulls or some 100% fiber supplement, would it cancel out any equal amount of other carbs taken at the same time? Or does the carb minus fiber equation only work when its in the same food?
Doesn’t matter dude. Bottom line is:
Fiber - doesn’t count towards daily limit
Any other carbs- Do count toward the 30grm limit. Regardless of source or food combo being eaten at any given time.
[/quote]
hey guys, I just started the AD and I’m on day 3 of the break-in phase… First of all, so far I’m in love with this diet and I hope it works for me… I started getting headaches today but I know I’m suppose to stick it out especially the first week… Please critique my diet here. I’m right at 30gms of carbs and about 30+gms of fiber/day.
breakfast
4 whole eggs (2omega 2regular)
4 strips of bacon
2 tblsp. butter
snack
15 pieces pepperoni
3oz. string cheese
lunch
8oz. beef of any kind (untrimmed)
1 cup spinach
1 tblsp. virgin olive oil
1 tblsp. balsamic vinegarete
5 cherry tomatoes
1oz. philly cream cheese for desert
snack
protein shake
1 tblsp flax seed meal
dinner
8oz of any meat… (lately brisket)
1 small avocado
1 tortilla (the ones i buy have only 5gms of carbs and 14grams of fiber!!!)
1 cup of steamed veggies
1 tblsp. olive oil
2 slices american cheese
snack
protein shake
1 tblsp flax seed meal
How are the MMA guys doing on the AD by the way?
bro u can up ur intake of flaxseed meal and also olive oil have a lot of brocoli also even lettuce will fill u up , also remember to take ur fish oil caps 10caps a day with meals is what the DR recommends in his books. u can also have nuts as ur snack with ur protien shake like walnuts ,almonds, peanuts,pistachios . remember to have the ratio of sat, mono,poly ftas 1:1:1 and remember its a high fat diet where u have 70%cals comming from fats …so have ur fat intake up
Day 9.
I crashed hard yesterday on day 8. I partially blame it on overtraining. Day 7 was supposed to be a day off of training for me(my first in probably 12 or 13 days) but…I got into a fistfight. So instead of spending the day recovering, I pretty much taxed my CNS into oblivion. So by yesterday I was having a hard time even getting up out of bed and moving. I spend all day relaxing and icing my hand and such.
I feel alright on day 9. Some delayed fatigue going on. But Im sticking it out. I havent even had a carb up yet.
Im resting again today and doing some major massive eating.
[quote]McNeil wrote:
How are the MMA guys doing on the AD by the way?
[/quote]
Ok so far. I was stampeding like a bull day 1 threw 7. Day 8 was a disaster.
Day 9 Im ok…
Just wanted to give you all an update on my second attempt at the AD. I am currently on Day 5 and experiencing some of the crashing symptoms that others have spoken about. Oddly enough, my crash this time around seems to be worse than the first time.
I have very little strength in the gym. When I went to squat on Tuesday, my warmup weight (225) felt like 325. I took this as a sign to go light with the workouts until my body fully adapts. Do these strength issues usually last the whole 12 days once they start, until the carb up? I’ve read the whole thread, but cannot remember the answer to this question.
Diet hasn’t been too difficult to keep up with. I’m getting way more good fats than I did the last time, and I hope this will keep the cholesterol in check. I always had perfect numbers but after a couple months on the AD, they skyrocketed. Of course, I was also eating bacon 2-3x a day, a half pound of mozzarella daily, and tons of bad fast food meats. Now I am sticking to lean meats, oils, nuts, fish, etc., allowing myself red meat about 2-3 times per week. I am also taking Carlsons fish oil capsules until Biotest’s Flameout is back in stock.
Looking forward to this again, and I have to thank everybody here who has contributed to help make this one of the best diet threads on the Internet. Hope everybody is getting closer to their goals!
[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
I love dishing up a bowl of chili and putting a sunny side up/over easy egg on top and going nuts. nothing is quite as good as frsh egg yolk in your chili. If you’re a real flash jonson at cooking you can use soft boiled eggs but i couldn’t be fuckt to boil eggs.
eat up.
-chris
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Shit man. An egg in chili… that’s a genious idea, and i have a huge craving to try that right now.
Soft-boiled eggs all mashed up with butter or some kind of cream-based dressing… my favourite. Add some crispy bacon as a side dish and i’m flyin’.
Feeling strangely bloated today, not sure why. Maybe i ate too many brussels sprouts last night. Those things are my cocaine, i swear. Or maybe it’s because i drink like 40 litres a water on some days. Mysteries of life.
Eggies give me huge boner. the ultimate food I say.
As far as the bloat goes, check your sodium. the high sodium food give you teh mad bloat. for instant relief take a TBSP of “milk of magnesia”
Some times i make myself a huge egg salad (hard B eggs, cayenne, paprika, natural egg mayo, celery, CILANTRO, various herbs and grated broccoli stalks) and dump it on some canned tuna and chow down.
-chris
[quote]suavij wrote:
realpeanutbutter wrote:
I love dishing up a bowl of chili and putting a sunny side up/over easy egg on top and going nuts. nothing is quite as good as frsh egg yolk in your chili. If you’re a real flash jonson at cooking you can use soft boiled eggs but i couldn’t be fuckt to boil eggs.
eat up.
-chris
Shit man. An egg in chili… that’s a genious idea, and i have a huge craving to try that right now.
Soft-boiled eggs all mashed up with butter or some kind of cream-based dressing… my favourite. Add some crispy bacon as a side dish and i’m flyin’.
Feeling strangely bloated today, not sure why. Maybe i ate too many brussels sprouts last night. Those things are my cocaine, i swear. Or maybe it’s because i drink like 40 litres a water on some days. Mysteries of life.[/quote]
[quote]raviraj wrote:
bro u can up ur intake of flaxseed meal and also olive oil have a lot of brocoli also even lettuce will fill u up , also remember to take ur fish oil caps 10caps a day with meals is what the DR recommends in his books. u can also have nuts as ur snack with ur protien shake like walnuts ,almonds, peanuts,pistachios . remember to have the ratio of sat, mono,poly ftas 1:1:1 and remember its a high fat diet where u have 70%cals comming from fats …so have ur fat intake up[/quote]
(this is also aimed at Justinf77)
how do you keep a fat ratio of 1:1:1? forgive me if it’s already been addressed in the thread… at this point it’s kinda hard to exhaust all the important information contained here… Before trying this diet all I ever did was make sure fat was low… this is a complete 180! I use fitday for seeing my fat percentages… it shows Sat at 22%, Poly at 2%, and Mono at 14% with a total fat% of 61% out of 3064 cals… I should probably up my calories because I weigh 270… I was just taking it easy because I was weary of how my body would respond to such a high fat intake… my main goal right now is to lose bf. However, I know the break-in is crucial. Also, I thought you’re suppose to keep Poly %'s down… many cancers are linked to high polyfats in the diet… I really want to have the most health conscious approach possible to the diet… Justin’s high cholesterol levels worry me… but I’m not gonna be eating a bunch of fastfood meats 
one more thing… i thought the book says to have a fat/pro/carb ratio of 55-60/30- 35/5-8?
Thanks for the help
[quote]Nicholas F wrote:
McNeil wrote:
How are the MMA guys doing on the AD by the way?
Ok so far. I was stampeding like a bull day 1 threw 7. Day 8 was a disaster.
Day 9 Im ok…
[/quote]
I noticed by day 3 that my strength level had taken a slight dip. I’ll see how it goes today. Are you using the original AD with you’re MMA training?
Uhhh… I’d love to see where cancer is linked to polyunsats (PUFA) in any way other than PUFA makes cancer go away. PUFA’s are found in:
Fish
fish oil
flax
flax oil
etc.
Get lots of fish in and fish oil caps are necessary for all humans. they will only do you good.
Monounsats (MUFA) are found in:
Olive oil
safflower
nuts etc.
Get lots in. keep and even ratio. mucho importanto.
-chris
[quote]McNeil wrote:
raviraj wrote:
bro u can up ur intake of flaxseed meal and also olive oil have a lot of brocoli also even lettuce will fill u up , also remember to take ur fish oil caps 10caps a day with meals is what the DR recommends in his books. u can also have nuts as ur snack with ur protien shake like walnuts ,almonds, peanuts,pistachios . remember to have the ratio of sat, mono,poly ftas 1:1:1 and remember its a high fat diet where u have 70%cals comming from fats …so have ur fat intake up
(this is also aimed at Justinf77)
how do you keep a fat ratio of 1:1:1? forgive me if it’s already been addressed in the thread… at this point it’s kinda hard to exhaust all the important information contained here… Before trying this diet all I ever did was make sure fat was low… this is a complete 180! I use fitday for seeing my fat percentages… it shows Sat at 22%, Poly at 2%, and Mono at 14% with a total fat% of 61% out of 3064 cals… I should probably up my calories because I weigh 270… I was just taking it easy because I was weary of how my body would respond to such a high fat intake… my main goal right now is to lose bf. However, I know the break-in is crucial. Also, I thought you’re suppose to keep Poly %'s down… many cancers are linked to high polyfats in the diet… I really want to have the most health conscious approach possible to the diet… Justin’s high cholesterol levels worry me… but I’m not gonna be eating a bunch of fastfood meats
one more thing… i thought the book says to have a fat/pro/carb ratio of 55-60/30- 35/5-8?
Thanks for the help
[/quote]
I do the AD with MMA/BJJ/wrestling. But instead of doing the BIG CHO up I do 2 little ones. One on wednesday after training (I sleep like a drugged prom date on wed night) and one more CHO up on sunday after training. If I’m not training MMA as much and it’s mostly strength I will CHO up only on sundays but I’ll do it all day long. Two days is too much for me.
The AD is so similar to Dr. JB’s precision nutrition that it’s not funny. the carb ups are just timed cheats for your 10%. It basically keeps your cheats planned and prevents over cheating.
I like to call it P’nad.
eggs.
-chris
[quote]McNeil wrote:
Nicholas F wrote:
McNeil wrote:
How are the MMA guys doing on the AD by the way?
Ok so far. I was stampeding like a bull day 1 threw 7. Day 8 was a disaster.
Day 9 Im ok…
I noticed by day 3 that my strength level had taken a slight dip. I’ll see how it goes today. Are you using the original AD with you’re MMA training?
[/quote]
I should have clarified… right, fish oils do the exact opposite… but omega6’s do increase the risk of tumor growth… Omega-3’s… the opposite… do you just try to make sure the majority of your polyunsaturated fats are omega-3’s?
[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
Uhhh… I’d love to see where cancer is linked to polyunsats (PUFA) in any way other than PUFA makes cancer go away. PUFA’s are found in:
Fish
fish oil
flax
flax oil
etc.
Get lots of fish in and fish oil caps are necessary for all humans. they will only do you good.
Monounsats (MUFA) are found in:
Olive oil
safflower
nuts etc.
Get lots in. keep and even ratio. mucho importanto.
-chris
McNeil wrote:
raviraj wrote:
bro u can up ur intake of flaxseed meal and also olive oil have a lot of brocoli also even lettuce will fill u up , also remember to take ur fish oil caps 10caps a day with meals is what the DR recommends in his books. u can also have nuts as ur snack with ur protien shake like walnuts ,almonds, peanuts,pistachios . remember to have the ratio of sat, mono,poly ftas 1:1:1 and remember its a high fat diet where u have 70%cals comming from fats …so have ur fat intake up
(this is also aimed at Justinf77)
how do you keep a fat ratio of 1:1:1? forgive me if it’s already been addressed in the thread… at this point it’s kinda hard to exhaust all the important information contained here… Before trying this diet all I ever did was make sure fat was low… this is a complete 180! I use fitday for seeing my fat percentages… it shows Sat at 22%, Poly at 2%, and Mono at 14% with a total fat% of 61% out of 3064 cals… I should probably up my calories because I weigh 270… I was just taking it easy because I was weary of how my body would respond to such a high fat intake… my main goal right now is to lose bf. However, I know the break-in is crucial. Also, I thought you’re suppose to keep Poly %'s down… many cancers are linked to high polyfats in the diet… I really want to have the most health conscious approach possible to the diet… Justin’s high cholesterol levels worry me… but I’m not gonna be eating a bunch of fastfood meats
one more thing… i thought the book says to have a fat/pro/carb ratio of 55-60/30- 35/5-8?
Thanks for the help
[/quote]
[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
PUFA’s are found in:
Fish
fish oil
flax
flax oil
etc.
[/quote]
This week I started food logging in fitday, as opposed to just counting my macros by hand. Everything seems right except that my Poly fats seem to hover around 10% of my total cals (~3000)everyday. Both mono and sat fats are about 20-25% of the total.
So my fat breakdown is 40% satfat, 40% monofat, 20% polyfat. The other day I had 2 pounds of salmon fillet, in addition to my daily 20 fish oil caps and 2 tablespoons of flax meal. I was still lower in poly than the other two.
What else are you guys eating to get your poly fats up? I don’t think my problem is too much of the other fats, since I’m eating about 50-60% of my cals from total fat everyday.
I know if I drop cheese from my diet (~6oz/day), I’ll drop sat fat, which’ll help the ratio, technically, but I’ll also be dropping 500 cals.
Do I need to just suck it up and start eating flax meal like a food group, or what?
A good way to increase your polys is a high quality fish oil. Check out:
http://www.ascentahealth.com/Products/nutrasea_hp.asp
It’s very hard to get enough through whole foods. I’ve found liquid supplementation is the best choice for quickest absorption.