[quote]rebekkerrb wrote:
How would this diet work for women? I need to gain about 10 lbs of muscle and lose 3% BF. Would this work for me?
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Actually, I think women would do better on the AD than men. I think most women eat way too many carbs and not enough protein. Most women I know tend to do best on high pro/med fat/lower carb diets.
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
Because people with real experience on the diet know that ketosis should be avoided and dropping fat is a no-no. And, this thread had 95 pages and a thousand posts before you decided to educate us, so maybe we’ll all be ok without your citing skills. [/quote]
I obviously read something about the diet if my posts contain citations.
You know nothing about me nor about my “real experiences.”
Dropping fat is a no-no? DiPasquale himself states otherwise. You obviously did not read his “Anabolic Solution.”
With regard to ketosis
How does ketosis not occur on this diet to some degree?
There is an increase in ketone body production on this diet. While most tissues are using primarily FFAs after a few weeks of adaptation, the brain cannot use FFAs and can derive up to 75% of its fuel from ketones.
Lyle McDonald states in his book that, “…ketones will only be present in the bloodstream under conditions where FFA use by the body has increased. We can assume that a large increase in FFA use is accompanied by an increase in ketone utilization.”
He further states, “Ketosis is defined clinically as a ketone concentration above 0.2mmol/dl,” and “under normal conditions (regular mixed diet), ketones are present in the blood stream in minute amounts at approximately 0.1mmol/dl. [low amounts of ketones in blood]” “Dietary ketosis results in 115-180g of ketones produced per day and a ketone concentration of 4-10mmol/dl” “Mild ketosis (~2mmol/dl) occurs following aerobic exercise.”
Isn’t it probably accurate to surmise that if ketone concentrations increase on this diet, and the ketone concentrations can be 0.1mmol/dl on a normal diet that contains carbs, that ketone concentrations will be >0.2mmol/dl on this diet (i.e., one will be in ketosis)? If not, can you, or someone else, please explain.
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
LOL I dont wanna bust your balls, but try dropping the fat for a while and it will be self explanitory.
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I’m not talking about dropping ALL of the fat. If one person is eating, say, 230g of fat per day and drops it down to 180g of fat per day, that’s 450 calories a day. Doing that over a month or two isn’t going to hurt any.
Sorry for the miscommunication. I meant drop some of the fat, not all of it
Thanks Il Cazzo. My trainer put me on something suspiciously similar to this, so I wanted to make sure it would work!
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
rebekkerrb wrote:
How would this diet work for women? I need to gain about 10 lbs of muscle and lose 3% BF. Would this work for me?
Actually, I think women would do better on the AD than men. I think most women eat way too many carbs and not enough protein. Most women I know tend to do best on high pro/med fat/lower carb diets.
[quote]rebekkerrb wrote:
Thanks Il Cazzo. My trainer put me on something suspiciously similar to this, so I wanted to make sure it would work!
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My girlfriend wanted to lose some weight, so I convinced her to go on this diet. I even put her daily calorie intake at 2,000. And, honestly, she has lost 5 pounds in 2 weeks and that is with minimal cardio. That doesn’t count the first “initiation” week. She only did the one week since she wanted to take the diet slowly, but she is doing really well.
Don’t be afraid to eat 2,000 or more calories when you start the initiation weeks. You can always drop them later. Plus, more frequent meals = faster metabolism
IMO some posters’ problem with you (including myself) is not about experience, knowledge or understanding on the AD. It has to do with the way you behave through your posts on the thread.
You come out of the blue to join a company (which by the way welcomes new members) and all of a sudden you throw around advice on issues that have been the main topic of discussion and controversy for tenths of previous pages (as you can recall since you’ve read the whole thread, right?)
Il Cazzo’s reaction wasn’t the nicest although justified IMO, but i can’t find any reason in my previous post to justify your irony towards me.
So what are your intentions afterall? To disturb the friendly (and maybe boring to you) atmosphear of this thread or share your knowledge on the topic?
I’m always happy to listen to people with more knowledge and experience than me especially at this point of the thread where thorough contributions are rare, but i also enjoy the friendliness and the absence of trolls who turn upside down every other thread and sometimes fuck the whole site.
IMO some posters’ problem with you (including myself) is not about experience, knowledge or understanding on the AD. It has to do with the way you behave through your posts on the thread.[/quote]
g.anagno,
Please be more specific with regard to how I “behave.” If you mean by citing stuff directly from DiPasquale’s book, what is the problem with it? I mean, we are talking about DiPasquale’s diet, aren’t we?
Come out of the blue to join a company that welcomes new members? I am not sure what you mean. These are public forums, and I have been a member of this site from Day 1 after TC, Poliquin, etc. left Muscle Media.
Well, I do not find it justified.
I intended to contribute to the thread.
No, I am not here to disturb the friendly atmosphere. I have an interest in these kinds of diets, hence all the books I own on them.
Forums are places to discuss topics. Not everyone will agree with one another. Do you agree?
Hopefully those exchanges can be pleasant.
I attempted to do that, but my post was responded to with an unpleasant response.
As I have stated, I have been a member for years (from day 1) on this site.
IMO some posters’ problem with you (including myself) is not about experience, knowledge or understanding on the AD. It has to do with the way you behave through your posts on the thread.
g.anagno
Please be more specific with regard to how I “behave.” If you mean by citing stuff directly from DiPasquale’s book, what is the problem with it? I mean, we are talking about DiPasquale’s diet, aren’t we?
You come out of the blue to join a company (which by the way welcomes new members)
Come out of the blue to join a company that welcomes new members? I am not sure what you mean. These are public forums, and I have been a member of this site from Day 1 after TC, Poliquin, etc. left Muscle Media.
Il Cazzo’s reaction wasn’t the nicest although justified IMO,
Well, I do not find it justified.
So what are your intentions afterall? To disturb the friendly (and maybe boring to you) atmosphear of this thread
I intended to contribute to the thread.
No, I am not here to disturb the friendly atmosphere. I have an interest in these kinds of diets, hence all the books I own on them.
Forums are places to discuss topics. Not everyone will agree with one another. Do you agree?
Hopefully those exchanges can be pleasant.
or share your knowledge on the topic?
I attempted to do that, but my post was responded to with an unpleasant response.
I’m always happy to listen to people with more knowledge and experience than me especially at this point of the thread where thorough contributions are rare, but i also enjoy the friendliness and the absence of trolls who turn upside down every other thread and sometimes fuck the whole site.
As I have stated, I have been a member for years (from day 1) on this site.[/quote]
IMO one should draw other people’s attention and respect by doing and saying things a little more profound and substantial than repeatedly advertising membership-from-Day-1 or specific book ownership or personal connection with important individuals.
You’re welcome (at least by me) to help this thread to go a little further if you want to do so.
WOW, this is getting a little heated. Well, all I wanted to add was that I went to Quaker Steak and Lube last night and ate a bucket of wings!!! And of course they were off the low carb menu!!!
[quote]drewbro wrote:
WOW, this is getting a little heated. Well, all I wanted to add was that I went to Quaker Steak and Lube last night and ate a bucket of wings!!! And of course they were off the low carb menu!!![/quote]
Quaker Steak and Lube!!
What a great name for a Pub-n-Grub!
hey guys are u taking fats plus protien after workout ? …just had a doubt that the fat will delay the uptake of protien in muscles ? …what do every 1 and the vetrans think about this ? is just a protien shake or fats plus protien shake ? help will be really appreciated
what do you guys do when you go on vacation?you eat whatever and pay no mind to the anabolic diet and then come home and re do the 12 day deal?im going away and ill be about a month or so into the anabolic diet after taking a month off.i was on for 8 weeks before stupidly getting off it.
[quote]raviraj wrote:
hey guys are u taking fats plus protien after workout ? …just had a doubt that the fat will delay the uptake of protien in muscles ? …what do every 1 and the vetrans think about this ? is just a protien shake or fats plus protien shake ? help will be really appreciated[/quote]
I usually have some whey protein right away after my workout, then 30 minutes after, I’ll have some egg whites with a little bit more whey protein, flax seed oil, natural peanut butter and fish oil.
[quote]mikemazz wrote:
what do you guys do when you go on vacation?you eat whatever and pay no mind to the anabolic diet and then come home and re do the 12 day deal?im going away and ill be about a month or so into the anabolic diet after taking a month off.i was on for 8 weeks before stupidly getting off it.[/quote]
I would do the whole 12 days over again if you ate like crap the whole time. If you haven’t messed up, just stay on the diet when on vacation
yea house im thinking i ll stay on this while im away.ill have two days of eating crap at least.but going 12 straight again is a daunting task.proably harder than beign good on vacation.
I use glutamine (20-30 g), BCAA (10-20 g), and a scoop of whey isolate immediately post-workout. About 45-60 minutes after I have a protein/fat shake, consisting of a slower digesting protein source mixed with 2-4 eggs and heavy whipping cream.