Ok, broccoli when not eaten with other carbs equals the mother of all farts. Other then that I’m feeling really good still.
Still have to stay off my feet but atleast while not working out I can just atkins it instead of ADing it until my feet are feeling better.
For dinner its ham steaks, eggs and maybe spinach for the green stuff.
[quote]conorh wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
BTW, does anyone ever sweat more often now? Or is it just me?
I seem to get a huge adrenergic response when I cut out carbs and I sweat like a hog.
This, combined with a couple caps a day of HOT-ROX Extreme and I’m pretty much moist continuously.[/quote]
Good, so its not just me. LOL
Quick question for the ADers . . .
Has anyone on this thread gotten really lean, I mean sub 10%, on this diet? If so, what was your excercise and calorie protocol.
I’ve been on this lifestyle for about 7 weeks and still haven’t really gotten the hang of it in terms of dialing it in.
Just curious . . .
Thanks,
Sasha
Figured I should sound off on this topic. Been on AD basically for 8 years. Started when I was 20 due to high genetic triglyceride levels. Dr Mauro DiPasquale is my HERO!!! Loved it from the beginning. I have made many adjustments over the years and I’ve recently been training very hard trying to put on some size while at the same time trying to stay lean(9%).
I usually consume some sort of PW drink (Rapid Recovery, Critical Mass, or scoop whey isolate w Apple Juice.) I’ve gone with the T-Dawg diet mentality as far as PW nutrition goes and it seems to have been working well. I don’t go BIG on carb up days though. I usually have a nice meal or two and that’s it.
I’ve also recently added NoXplode and Cell Mass…WOW!!! I love this stuff!! I will never train without the NoXplode again. Don’t forget a very complete mutivitamin/multimineral. I use Every Man from NewChapter Organics. God bless the big bacon omelette at IHOP!!!
[quote]drewbro wrote:
Figured I should sound off on this topic. Been on AD basically for 8 years. Started when I was 20 due to high genetic triglyceride levels. Dr Mauro DiPasquale is my HERO!!! Loved it from the beginning. I have made many adjustments over the years and I’ve recently been training very hard trying to put on some size while at the same time trying to stay lean(9%).
I usually consume some sort of PW drink (Rapid Recovery, Critical Mass, or scoop whey isolate w Apple Juice.) I’ve gone with the T-Dawg diet mentality as far as PW nutrition goes and it seems to have been working well. I don’t go BIG on carb up days though. I usually have a nice meal or two and that’s it.
I’ve also recently added NoXplode and Cell Mass…WOW!!! I love this stuff!! I will never train without the NoXplode again. Don’t forget a very complete mutivitamin/multimineral. I use Every Man from NewChapter Organics. God bless the big bacon omelette at IHOP!!! [/quote]
Drewbro,
If I may…a few questions?
So how lean did you get/are you? Is +/-9% your goal or your current bf%?
Since you’ve been experimenting w/ foods for a while…can you share what works/doesn’t work…at least for you?
And lastly…how do you manage the carbs in the apple juice, NoXplode & Cellmass? You must have found success with more than the ‘recommended’ carb intake?? How much do you take in??
As an aside…I too enjoyed NoXplode -gave me a real nice ‘rush’ and fueled my training well. However I found that after about my third container those feelings waned. It may be good to cycle those products to maintain their effectiveness (just my 2cents).
Does anyone else get head quakes? I’m talking massive headache, the kind that makes your hair hurt? I’ve increased my water, I’ve increased my fat today and it is just not stopping.
I’m going to give it another day then I’m going to have to call it quits. Its damn near debilitating.
Pauli,
Right around 8% at 195 pounds, 5’10, is the leanest i’ve gotten. I travel for work so it’s been tough for me to get lower than that. I’m about 10% currently. Lower back is a HUGE issue for me. I get super lean everywhere else and those damn love handles just hang in there.
As far as food goes, I’ll give you a typical day for me:
1)Upon waking; Isopure no carb shake w/water
2)Big Bacon omellete from IHOP(one of the best things in the world) side of cottage cheese.
multivitamin
3)almonds or mixed nuts
4)Chipotle bowl w fajita veggies, chicken, pork, guacamole, cheese, sour cream
5) Oh Yeah Protein Bar
6) Salad w/ chicken or steak, bleu cheese or viniagrette dressing
7) Isopure shake
I usually drink 2 gallons of water each day(I piss like a race horse!!)
If I’m feeling too “full” i’ll back down a bit on the calories and take in some more liquid protein.
Eggs, Eggs, Eggs work great!!! You can usually find a breakfast buffet somewhere and pile on the eggs and bacon, etc. In a pinch, fast food restaurants are great. A few cheeseburgers without the bun, just be careful of the ketchup. For you office guys, a bag of pepperoni and some bagged cheese cubes are perfect. Some tuna loaded with mayo is great. I like to toss in a little honey mustard for a treat. Being on the road, I LIVE at restaurants. IHOP every morning, Outback at night. A big steak and some mixed veggies and steamed brocolli. I’m drawing a blank right now on any other good food choices. I will go back through my food journals from years past and see what else there is.
As far as carb intake with the apple juice, etc, I’m a “t-dawg 2.0” guy. If you remember that spinoff of AD, they recomended 70 grams CHO non training days and 100 on training days. Most of my carbs come in the 1 hour PW. For example, right now I have the SizeOn from Gaspari. That’s 31 grams, then i’ll throw down a recovery drink that will have anywhere from 30 to 60 grams in it. That pushes me up around my 100 on training days. But, I’m also a believer that those PW carbs will go straight to replenish glycogen stores. I don’t get carb phobic about it. Periodically I will load up on a heavier carb meal if I have a real hardcore training session.
Last but not least, I don’t go overboard on the weekends. It is not a chance to load yourself up with a bunch of shit and justify it. I usually will go to California Pizza Kitchen and get a chicken salad and a White Pizza on honeywheat dough. Then I’ll get a little ice cream. Sunday morning I will go train and then I’ll head home and change and go to Cheesecake Factory for brunch. A huge plate of French Toast and some eggs and potatoes. I generally don’t eat it all, but that is my splurge on the weekend. It’s not every weekend though. Sometimes I’ll just go with one good meal of carbs and that will be it.
I’ve been doing this for about 8 years so I’m down to answer any questions anybody has.
[quote]Geography wrote:
Does anyone else get head quakes? I’m talking massive headache, the kind that makes your hair hurt? I’ve increased my water, I’ve increased my fat today and it is just not stopping.
I’m going to give it another day then I’m going to have to call it quits. Its damn near debilitating.[/quote]
I’ve seen this before. I think your body is having trouble processing all the fat. This happens to some people.
Nice -sounds like you have it dialed right in!
[quote]drewbro wrote:
Pauli,
Right around 8% at 195 pounds, 5’10, is the leanest i’ve gotten. I travel for work so it’s been tough for me to get lower than that. I’m about 10% currently. Lower back is a HUGE issue for me. I get super lean everywhere else and those damn love handles just hang in there.
As far as food goes, I’ll give you a typical day for me:
1)Upon waking; Isopure no carb shake w/water
2)Big Bacon omellete from IHOP(one of the best things in the world) side of cottage cheese.
multivitamin
3)almonds or mixed nuts
4)Chipotle bowl w fajita veggies, chicken, pork, guacamole, cheese, sour cream
5) Oh Yeah Protein Bar
6) Salad w/ chicken or steak, bleu cheese or viniagrette dressing
7) Isopure shake
I usually drink 2 gallons of water each day(I piss like a race horse!!)
If I’m feeling too “full” i’ll back down a bit on the calories and take in some more liquid protein.
Eggs, Eggs, Eggs work great!!! You can usually find a breakfast buffet somewhere and pile on the eggs and bacon, etc. In a pinch, fast food restaurants are great. A few cheeseburgers without the bun, just be careful of the ketchup. For you office guys, a bag of pepperoni and some bagged cheese cubes are perfect. Some tuna loaded with mayo is great. I like to toss in a little honey mustard for a treat. Being on the road, I LIVE at restaurants. IHOP every morning, Outback at night. A big steak and some mixed veggies and steamed brocolli. I’m drawing a blank right now on any other good food choices. I will go back through my food journals from years past and see what else there is.
As far as carb intake with the apple juice, etc, I’m a “t-dawg 2.0” guy. If you remember that spinoff of AD, they recomended 70 grams CHO non training days and 100 on training days. Most of my carbs come in the 1 hour PW. For example, right now I have the SizeOn from Gaspari. That’s 31 grams, then i’ll throw down a recovery drink that will have anywhere from 30 to 60 grams in it. That pushes me up around my 100 on training days. But, I’m also a believer that those PW carbs will go straight to replenish glycogen stores. I don’t get carb phobic about it. Periodically I will load up on a heavier carb meal if I have a real hardcore training session.
Last but not least, I don’t go overboard on the weekends. It is not a chance to load yourself up with a bunch of shit and justify it. I usually will go to California Pizza Kitchen and get a chicken salad and a White Pizza on honeywheat dough. Then I’ll get a little ice cream. Sunday morning I will go train and then I’ll head home and change and go to Cheesecake Factory for brunch. A huge plate of French Toast and some eggs and potatoes. I generally don’t eat it all, but that is my splurge on the weekend. It’s not every weekend though. Sometimes I’ll just go with one good meal of carbs and that will be it.
I’ve been doing this for about 8 years so I’m down to answer any questions anybody has. [/quote]
To all the AD’ers:
Does anyone have a mid week carb up? Just wondering if you have a big meal or have the whole day to carb up.
Then, on the weekend, do you only do 12 hours of carbing up? (8am-8pm).
Thanks in advance for any input on this.
[quote]drewbro wrote:
Geography wrote:
Does anyone else get head quakes? I’m talking massive headache, the kind that makes your hair hurt? I’ve increased my water, I’ve increased my fat today and it is just not stopping.
I’m going to give it another day then I’m going to have to call it quits. Its damn near debilitating.
I’ve seen this before. I think your body is having trouble processing all the fat. This happens to some people.
[/quote]
I’m off it. I’m going into a carb coma now.
[quote]Geography wrote:
I’m off it. I’m going into a carb coma now.
[/quote]
Really? That sucks to hear, man. Show us your diet and maybe we can help.
I just finished the induction phase a few days ago, but since i’m currently trying to lean up I’m trying something simlar. I’ll have a postworkout carb shake followed by a single carb-up meal postworkout. Once mid-week and once on the weekend. We’ll see how it works.
Years ago when I was on the diet I followed the regular plan: 36-48 hour carb-ups on the weekend and it worked great for me in terms of gaining weight while minimizing fat gain. I’m speculating that the 2 smaller carb-ups will be better for fatloss(actually got the idea from reading some of Thib’s stuff, as well as Faigin)
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
To all the AD’ers:
Does anyone have a mid week carb up? Just wondering if you have a big meal or have the whole day to carb up.
Then, on the weekend, do you only do 12 hours of carbing up? (8am-8pm).
Thanks in advance for any input on this.[/quote]
Dude, did you go from a regular med/high CHO diet to AD? If so that’s likely why you get mad headaches. Just ween yourself into it by going to about 100 g CHO for two weeks. That way when you go to real AD you won’t crash or get headaches. Almost everyone who was moderately low CHO previous to AD has had no adversitys.
Also are you on any test boosters like yohimbe? Alpha Male etc? how bout caffine? All those will give some people (me incl.) headaches on the AD. stop all herbals and cycle them back in slowly after 2 weeks off.
PM me with your usual food supp list, or post it.
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
To all the AD’ers:
Does anyone have a mid week carb up? Just wondering if you have a big meal or have the whole day to carb up.
Then, on the weekend, do you only do 12 hours of carbing up? (8am-8pm).
Thanks in advance for any input on this.[/quote]
I’ll do it periodically. Usually later in the day so i can train the next morning and take advantage of that pump. I normally only do one meal in the midweek carb up and it’s only once every couple of weeks that I’ll do it.
As far as the weekend goes, there are many factors.
2)what’s your metabolism like
My carb up on the weekend is centered around my training. I go pretty big on sat night and train VERY HARD on sunday morning. Then I have my last big carb meal. The rest of the day has me taking in a few shakes and a couple small meals so my caloric intake isn’t too high. Experiment with what works for you. That’s the great thing about this “lifestyle,” it works differently for everyone.
[quote]drewbro wrote:
I’ll do it periodically. Usually later in the day so i can train the next morning and take advantage of that pump. I normally only do one meal in the midweek carb up and it’s only once every couple of weeks that I’ll do it.
As far as the weekend goes, there are many factors.
2)what’s your metabolism like
My carb up on the weekend is centered around my training. I go pretty big on sat night and train VERY HARD on sunday morning. Then I have my last big carb meal. The rest of the day has me taking in a few shakes and a couple small meals so my caloric intake isn’t too high. Experiment with what works for you. That’s the great thing about this “lifestyle,” it works differently for everyone. [/quote]
Sounds good 
I’m experimenting with a Friday night carb meal and Saturday carb up to see what happens.
Thanks again for the input…
I posted my diet earlier in the thread, maybe 1 or 2 pages back, possibly a bit more. Other then whey I’ve taken no supplements and caffeine I take maybe 2-3times a week max.
[quote]Geography wrote:
I posted my diet earlier in the thread, maybe 1 or 2 pages back, possibly a bit more. Other then whey I’ve taken no supplements and caffeine I take maybe 2-3times a week max.[/quote]
Found it. Your diet looks pretty good. I’m guessing the headaches came from, like someone else said, dropping the carbs too quick. Its not your fault, though. I did it and survived with minimal headaches. But, I would try and give it another crack if you want.
I’m finally getting past the point that I don’t want carbs that much, even on carb day. I’ll eat them, but I don’t “crave” them as much.
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Geography wrote:
I posted my diet earlier in the thread, maybe 1 or 2 pages back, possibly a bit more. Other then whey I’ve taken no supplements and caffeine I take maybe 2-3times a week max.
Found it. Your diet looks pretty good. I’m guessing the headaches came from, like someone else said, dropping the carbs too quick. Its not your fault, though. I did it and survived with minimal headaches. But, I would try and give it another crack if you want.
I’m finally getting past the point that I don’t want carbs that much, even on carb day. I’ll eat them, but I don’t “crave” them as much.[/quote]
Being able to effectively troubleshoot and adjust parameters in the AD is key. Some people really don’t do well on the 30g CHO especially if previous eating was high in CHO.
Personally I’d try to lower CHO to 30g/day until the headaches get too bad to handle and then do a 12 or 24 hour carb up until the headache goes away. A big part of the AD is figuring out what works best for YOU and learning how to read the signs that your body is giving you. This isn’t a one size fits all approach.
Experimenting is the key.
Yeah. What he said.