He’s written a book for powerlifters on the AD
http://news.discovery.com/archaeology/neanderthal-hormones-strong-arms.html
I think everyone would like this. An article on how the male neanderthals were rather muscular because of their all meat diet. It says they were unusually pumped up on “male hormones”
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
He’s written a book for powerlifters on the AD[/quote]
Ahhh i found 'em. Cheers.
Metabolic Diet
Anabolic Solution
and i’ve found the books for BB & PL.
Day 3 today of initial phase (planning on doing 12day induct). Pissing like a horse, huge water retention going and have lost 3 stone off my jowls.
Hungry as all hell, but not in that carby way; the one where you’ve gonna binge all the time secretly and have to constant fight the urge to plurge. Hungry in a nice way, a nice “coupla hours n its meat time” way.
Report back in soon…
H
First off, I would like to say this is a great thread. Plan to go back and read the others when I get the chance. I’m sure there is lots of information there that I can read about and apply the knowledge to the AD.
Anyway, a little background about myself. 6’2, 195 lbs. For the longest time, I did your standard BB workout. Isolation exercises and whatnot. It worked at the beginning but that was because of noob gains. In March, I switched over to SL5x5 which I now love. Deadlift, squats, OHP, all of it. Gotten a hell of a lot stronger and lost a fair amount of fat/bf. I’d say right now, I am around 14%. Obviously, I would like to lower that.
I’ve had success with Intermittent Fasting. From March until now, I fast 1-2 days a week. Still continued to make progress, lose fat and gained strength. But now, I feel like I am ready for a change and try a new diet. Part of it has to do with the fact that I like to eat and just didn’t want to fast anymore haha. I plan to start up the AD on Monday. I feel that I can do well as I have been doing a relatively low carb diet (not this low though) and really want to push myself. See how far I can really go.
http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/recipes.html
Prolly use that a lot for recipes. They seem to have some good stuff on there.
One final question, I haven’t seen people mention cottage cheese that much. With only 3g of carbs per serving and the amount of protein, it seems like a great thing to eat on this diet. Maybe it is but I just missed out where people are actually eating this.
In any case, thanks again and I look forward to trying this out!
[quote]OdysseusUnbound wrote:
Hey all…
I apologize if this has been covered in previous threads, but I can’t read all posts in all AD threads, and the ‘search’ function hasn’t been all that helpful, so here goes:
I am starting the AD next week because I have stalled on Lyle McDonald’s UD 2.0. I suspect that the low levels of dietary fat and the length of the carb-loads (and the amount of carbs) are to blame. I am currently 195lbs approx 12-13 % bf.
I am simply wondering which type of training has yielded the best fat loss results for the AD’ers here. I was considering Poliquin’s German Body Comp or Staley’s EDT. I don’t know if it is relevant, but I train at 5 am. Also, how much and what type of cardio do folks incorporate while on the AD?
Any help is greatly appreciated. Peace.[/quote]
Hard and heavy.
Seriously, guys think too much about what kind of training to do for “fat loss.” If you’re dieting and moving around, you’ll drop fat. In fact, I think it’s a hugeeee mistake to try to train for fat loss. Train more like a powerlifter, preserve or build new muscle and always try to get stronger! Even if you get “tired” while dieting, you can still build crazy strength, anyone who tells you otherwise is either a high carb douche or doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
[quote]OdysseusUnbound wrote:
Hey all…
I apologize if this has been covered in previous threads, but I can’t read all posts in all AD threads, and the ‘search’ function hasn’t been all that helpful, so here goes:
I am starting the AD next week because I have stalled on Lyle McDonald’s UD 2.0. I suspect that the low levels of dietary fat and the length of the carb-loads (and the amount of carbs) are to blame. I am currently 195lbs approx 12-13 % bf.
I am simply wondering which type of training has yielded the best fat loss results for the AD’ers here. I was considering Poliquin’s German Body Comp or Staley’s EDT. I don’t know if it is relevant, but I train at 5 am. Also, how much and what type of cardio do folks incorporate while on the AD?
Any help is greatly appreciated. Peace.[/quote]
Hard and heavy.
Seriously, guys think too much about what kind of training to do for “fat loss.” If you’re dieting and moving around, you’ll drop fat. In fact, I think it’s a hugeeee mistake to try to train for fat loss. Train more like a powerlifter, preserve or build new muscle and always try to get stronger! Even if you get “tired” while dieting, you can still build crazy strength, anyone who tells you otherwise is either a high carb douche or doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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Hell yeah. Nice to see you drop in Cazzo! Good to see a veteran from the original AD thread
So a question with regards to fats…
I know that you are suppose to aim around 50-60%. However, you are still trying to eat the “good fats”. Does that mean I should go for 93/7 ground beef as opposed to extra lean? Same concept with bacon. Turkey bacon or regular bacon? I know that as long as you hit that 50-60% threshold, you are good to go but was just wondering what the best approach might be.
Also, I gathered that it is perfectly fine to use EVOO with just about every meal (salads, meats, eggs, etc).
Thanks!
Yeah, I don’t see a big issue with some fatty meat…obviously nothing crazy. Just aim for more mono and poly fats as bulk. Yes, also keep fats above 50%. EVOO is fine
GJ
My general understanding is to have the bulk of fats come from sat. and mono. sources
Hey BK,
Yes, this was my understanding as well…up until a recent interview with Dr M aswell as recommendations from other coaches(Poliquin). I suppose making 1/3 from each source type would be best…what you say?
GJ
I’d agree with that notion. It’s always been the way to go. So says my main man who got me on the healthy eats bandwagon…Berardi of course
MMM anyone ever try throwing a frozen sweet poatato with a splash of whatever liquid, cinnamon, and sugar to make some nice frozen yogurt-esque dessert? love it
I just finished my first week on AD following DiPasquale’s guidelines to the letter. It was exciting the first couple days when I dropped like 3 lbs of water and thought I’d found the holy grail, but then my weight leveled out and it all came back on the weekend. After finding this thread and seeing what, at first blush, looks like really unimpressive results a lot of people are getting, I’m about ready to quit right now. Weds Thurs and Friday were HORRIBLE for me: I was not just ravenous all the time, I was MEAN. It’s like 1000 degrees in Texas, and I do a lot of cardio. By Friday afternoon I was a zombie.
I’m 34, 5’8", 167 lbs @ 18% body fat = 140lbs fat free mass. Was right at 3000 cal/day last week, 55/41/4 fat/protein/carbs = 185 g fat, 300 g protein, 30 g carbs.
[quote]alexprice wrote:
I just finished my first week on AD following DiPasquale’s guidelines to the letter. It was exciting the first couple days when I dropped like 3 lbs of water and thought I’d found the holy grail, but then my weight leveled out and it all came back on the weekend. After finding this thread and seeing what, at first blush, looks like really unimpressive results a lot of people are getting, I’m about ready to quit right now. Weds Thurs and Friday were HORRIBLE for me: I was not just ravenous all the time, I was MEAN. It’s like 1000 degrees in Texas, and I do a lot of cardio. By Friday afternoon I was a zombie.
I’m 34, 5’8", 167 lbs @ 18% body fat = 140lbs fat free mass. Was right at 3000 cal/day last week, 55/41/4 fat/protein/carbs = 185 g fat, 300 g protein, 30 g carbs.[/quote]
DROP the cardio…all the shit does is increase oxidative stress, causing your body to hang onto fat stores, muscle loss, training the SLOW twitch fibres and ages you!!! The only “Cardio” worthwhile is HIIT/sprint sessions at maybe 2 times per week.
You will feel like shit initially, but after you adapt to fats for fuel you will feel great! Much higher cognitive alertness and more drive generally due to increase in free T. Most people don’t obtain the results they should be getting because they don’t abide by the rules ANS many overdo their carb ups by miles leading to plenty of fat gain(speaking from personaly experience).
Stick with it bro…and it will yield good results…PROVIDING you are not particular genetically gifted for carbs, in which case a moderate carbs diet may be better suited to you. Hard to say without testing you to be honest. Do you store most of your fat on your supriliac and upper back area?
Any other questions?
GJ
Yea I decided the strict AD wasn’t for me as I start to hate life on the weekends. My sugar addiction kicks in, I get mad bloat, feel like hibernating and hate food. Honestly, if it’s not for you don’t post unless you have a question…dont bash.
I’m here every now and then because I did the strict AD for ~3.5 years. I’ve found that nutrient timing just works for me while I still eat 60%+ fat most days and ~90%carbs are from veggies. So I guess you could say I’m Paleo. For me, the weekends were excuses for junk. Especially ice cream…my favorite food yet biggest gut buster of my life! So now I make my own with frozen fruits/sweet potatoes and nuts. Same consistancy and great pure flavor + it’s healthy!
If anyone asks, I tell them I’m on the Paleo diet…which is essentially VERY similar to the Anabolic diet. I do however keep starchy carbs low, incl sweet potatoe etc due to poor insulin sensitivity hence just Fats and Protein…with a good carb up once every 5-7days. PLENTY of greens though that I do not count toward my total count.
GJ
[quote]alexprice wrote:
I just finished my first week on AD following DiPasquale’s guidelines to the letter. It was exciting the first couple days when I dropped like 3 lbs of water and thought I’d found the holy grail, but then my weight leveled out and it all came back on the weekend. After finding this thread and seeing what, at first blush, looks like really unimpressive results a lot of people are getting, I’m about ready to quit right now. Weds Thurs and Friday were HORRIBLE for me: I was not just ravenous all the time, I was MEAN. It’s like 1000 degrees in Texas, and I do a lot of cardio. By Friday afternoon I was a zombie.
I’m 34, 5’8", 167 lbs @ 18% body fat = 140lbs fat free mass. Was right at 3000 cal/day last week, 55/41/4 fat/protein/carbs = 185 g fat, 300 g protein, 30 g carbs.[/quote]
I’ve just finished my first week too, but i’m doing the 12 day induct so i didnt carbfrenzy on saturday still teetotal.
I have done 1 cardio sesh, 2 weight sesh (both brutal) and have been avging probably 3000kcal (at 6 foot 2, 240lb (est 190lb lean mass). I’ve got quite a slow metab; i havent been struggling. I’ve dropped plenty of weight, lots of comments etc.
The only thing im doing diff to you, is less cardio, but i think perhaps more importantly, im eating LESS protein and MORE fat. You’re having a huge amount of protein for your size, and perhaps not enough fat/high fat ratio to work the “fat adapted” thingy.
Maybe?
Cheers & Goodluck, i love this diet.
H
For me, most of my fat is around my stomach. If I flex the right way and have the light hitting the proper angle with the shadows, you can see my abs quite nicely haha.
Seriously though, I just want to try this diet because it is something new and I have heard many positive things about it from both this forum and the SL forums. I feel that I burn carbs relatively quickly but I don’t really know for sure. Still new to all of this. I’ve done Eat Stop Eat but just want to eat. I plan to try Leangains later this year but want to stick with the AD for a while.
Going to go grocery shopping for the next few days. Get me some ground chuck, fish, and of course, my green veggies.
Speaking of Leangains, you can utilize the protocol whilst on the AD. Just fast 16 hours then enjoy your 8 hour feeding window
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
Speaking of Leangains, you can utilize the protocol whilst on the AD. Just fast 16 hours then enjoy your 8 hour feeding window[/quote]
Didn’t think about trying that. It would be interesting for sure. I’ll stick with just AD for now because I would rather stay with the protocol as opposed to experimenting around. When I get more experience under my belt, then I can try a hybrid approach 
And I know it has only been a day and a half but I really can’t believe how full I am feeling. I’m sure it has to do with all the extra fats and fiber I am eating but I didn’t think it would make that big of an impact.
I’m currently trying to aim for around 3k cals for the first two weeks and then make adjustments as necessary. One thing though is that I do have 2 tbl spoons of peanut butter a part of my diet. I want to remove that but that is an easy 190 cals. Stupid carbs…
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
Speaking of Leangains, you can utilize the protocol whilst on the AD. Just fast 16 hours then enjoy your 8 hour feeding window[/quote]
Hey BK, since you do paleo, how much starchy carbs do you actually eat? Of course it wouldn’t be many, but are you eating any at all?