My Experience On the Anabolic Diet Part III

Damn. I had several green teas yesterday with Sweet n Low. Apparently, it actually has 0.9g carb instead of the printed 0g. That is bullshit. They should show it as <1g if not truly zero and no rounding to zero either. I ended up with 32g of carbs because of that.

Had green tea with no sweetener today. I have had tea before without and liked it. I just wanted some sweetener now to cover sweet tooth. Looks like I need to get liquid sucralose (Liquid Splenda) which is supposed to actually be 0 carb.

[quote]jsdool wrote:
Damn. I had several green teas yesterday with Sweet n Low. Apparently, it actually has 0.9g carb instead of the printed 0g. That is bullshit. They should show it as <1g if not truly zero and no rounding to zero either. I ended up with 32g of carbs because of that.

Had green tea with no sweetener today. I have had tea before without and liked it. I just wanted some sweetener now to cover sweet tooth. Looks like I need to get liquid sucralose (Liquid Splenda) which is supposed to actually be 0 carb. [/quote]

Hey man, I think you’ll be o.k. just going over by 2 carbs. You’re splitting hairs. Dr. Di P. says"As far as the 30 gram carb limit, it’s not written in stone. As you increase your caloric intake, especially at the high end, you can increase the carb intake without causing any problems as far as adapting to the diet." I know you might be cutting right now but this tells me that 2 carbs on the high side will not cause any problems.

[quote]broken4head wrote:
jsdool wrote:
Damn. I had several green teas yesterday with Sweet n Low. Apparently, it actually has 0.9g carb instead of the printed 0g. That is bullshit. They should show it as <1g if not truly zero and no rounding to zero either. I ended up with 32g of carbs because of that.

Had green tea with no sweetener today. I have had tea before without and liked it. I just wanted some sweetener now to cover sweet tooth. Looks like I need to get liquid sucralose (Liquid Splenda) which is supposed to actually be 0 carb.

Hey man, I think you’ll be o.k. just going over by 2 carbs. You’re splitting hairs. Dr. Di P. says"As far as the 30 gram carb limit, it’s not written in stone. As you increase your caloric intake, especially at the high end, you can increase the carb intake without causing any problems as far as adapting to the diet." I know you might be cutting right now but this tells me that 2 carbs on the high side will not cause any problems. [/quote]

Agreed, but I like to make goals I set. Thanks.


I logged my intake today, just to get a feel for where I’m at. I’m not usually this precise about things, but I guess I should start. I had some psyllium husks with those protein shakes, and I ate a little less veggies today than usual.

This is day 3 of the 12 day adaptation phase. I weigh 200lbs.

Critique is welcomed.

[quote]jsdool wrote:
Damn. I had several green teas yesterday with Sweet n Low. Apparently, it actually has 0.9g carb instead of the printed 0g. That is bullshit. They should show it as <1g if not truly zero and no rounding to zero either. I ended up with 32g of carbs because of that.

Had green tea with no sweetener today. I have had tea before without and liked it. I just wanted some sweetener now to cover sweet tooth. Looks like I need to get liquid sucralose (Liquid Splenda) which is supposed to actually be 0 carb. [/quote]

Try stevia instead. Pure stevia has no carbs, no calories and will actually help restore your adrenals.

[quote]Mr.Purple wrote:
I logged my intake today, just to get a feel for where I’m at. I’m not usually this precise about things, but I guess I should start. I had some psyllium husks with those protein shakes, and I ate a little less veggies today than usual.

This is day 3 of the 12 day adaptation phase. I weigh 200lbs.

Critique is welcomed.[/quote]

You gotta get some better Whey man, with less carbs at least IMO… Also, don’t count your broccoli against your total. You don’t have to log your fibrous vegetables.

I was astounded by your carbs until I realized you probably have at least 10g of fiber in there and you’re counting net carbs (carbs - fiber) for the AD.

Otherwise, you have a pretty decent diet.

I started AD on Nov.2 with 12*BW kcal and I plan on doing 6 low CHO / 1 high CHO based upon me wanting to lose fat and my prior experience with high carbs. This seems to be OK based upon some stuff that DH has posted.

I would like to do 24h carb load starting noon Sat and ending noon Sunday. That would allow me to have carbs during family meals on weekends. I would then be lifting following M/Tu/Th/F and I normally do so after lunch (it will be evenings when I am not laid off :().

If I do this, realizing I want total carbs limited, wouldn’t I then split my intended carb load grams 2/3 Sa and 1/3 Su?

[quote]broken4head wrote:
Hey guys,
In a couple of weeks my work is having a Mid week holiday party. I don’t usually do a mid week carb meal but I don’t think just once should hurt. I’m currently in a mass phase anyway but I would like to avoid fat gain. Dr. Di talks about a mid week carb meal in his book and says it will not disturb my fat adapted body as long as I keep my normal carb day to one moderate carb meal, and the mid week carb meal moderate as well. Any experienced suggestions?[/quote]

ANYONE?

I usually buy fresh salomn but it is too expensive right now. Canned salmon was on sale so I bought it and decided to make salmon patties. I didn’t like the recipes I found on the internet so here is what I used:

1 can Pillar Rock Pink Salmon
1 Tbs minced onion (dried kind)
1/2 tsp minced garlic
4 Tbs ground flax seed
2 large eggs

Mixed it together and fried it in 2 Tbs olive oil. Makes about 480g. I added Weber’s Sweet & Savory Salmion Rub as seasoning but Lawry’s seasoned salt would probably be good. I ate this over a bed of lettuce and topped it with some capers.

A 100g patty is 20.5g fat, 3g carb (2g CHO and 1g fiber), 25.6g protein. Lots of good fats. 20% Ca. Almost hits the weekly macros right on the nose.

[quote]broken4head wrote:
broken4head wrote:
Hey guys,
In a couple of weeks my work is having a Mid week holiday party. I don’t usually do a mid week carb meal but I don’t think just once should hurt. I’m currently in a mass phase anyway but I would like to avoid fat gain. Dr. Di talks about a mid week carb meal in his book and says it will not disturb my fat adapted body as long as I keep my normal carb day to one moderate carb meal, and the mid week carb meal moderate as well. Any experienced suggestions?

ANYONE?[/quote]

What kind of carb up do you do on a normal week? I usually do two days carb up for the weekends, although this past week on thursday I ended up being out with no good options for carb-less food. Just decided to call an audible and make thursday a moderate carb up, and took out my carb up for saturday. It’s all about manipulation.

If you do 2 days carb up, you could probably get away with what I sorta did. Keep in mind though, I had NO transition minus gym workouts. I had no mood swings, nothing, and when I carb up, I feel nothing adverse.

[quote]samdan wrote:
Mr.Purple wrote:
I logged my intake today, just to get a feel for where I’m at. I’m not usually this precise about things, but I guess I should start. I had some psyllium husks with those protein shakes, and I ate a little less veggies today than usual.

This is day 3 of the 12 day adaptation phase. I weigh 200lbs.

Critique is welcomed.

You gotta get some better Whey man, with less carbs at least IMO… Also, don’t count your broccoli against your total. You don’t have to log your fibrous vegetables.

I was astounded by your carbs until I realized you probably have at least 10g of fiber in there and you’re counting net carbs (carbs - fiber) for the AD.

Otherwise, you have a pretty decent diet.[/quote]

About the whey, 3.8g of those carbs per serving are fiber.

It’s Fitday that are counting the carbs in the broccoli and cucumbers, not I :slight_smile: for some reason it doesn’t count all the carbs in broccoli as dietary fiber.

Thanks for your input.

[quote]samdan wrote:
broken4head wrote:
broken4head wrote:
Hey guys,
In a couple of weeks my work is having a Mid week holiday party. I don’t usually do a mid week carb meal but I don’t think just once should hurt. I’m currently in a mass phase anyway but I would like to avoid fat gain. Dr. Di talks about a mid week carb meal in his book and says it will not disturb my fat adapted body as long as I keep my normal carb day to one moderate carb meal, and the mid week carb meal moderate as well. Any experienced suggestions?

ANYONE?

What kind of carb up do you do on a normal week? I usually do two days carb up for the weekends, although this past week on thursday I ended up being out with no good options for carb-less food. Just decided to call an audible and make thursday a moderate carb up, and took out my carb up for saturday. It’s all about manipulation.

If you do 2 days carb up, you could probably get away with what I sorta did. Keep in mind though, I had NO transition minus gym workouts. I had no mood swings, nothing, and when I carb up, I feel nothing adverse.[/quote]

I usually start my carb up at 3:00 p.m on Sat. and have the last of them for breakfast Sun morning. The carbs do make me feel a little dopey but I have not put on any fat.

On the week in question,I was thinking of only carbing up on Sat. for dinner and stopping. Then at my work dinner having carbs as well but even less then on Sat. Does this sound correct?
Also should I carb up again the following Sat. like usual or have one carb meal?

Your plan SOUNDS like it would work to me, although again I’m coming from something like a 40-hour carb up every week and it hasn’t hurt me yet.

You might even go with:

Saturday: Normal Carbs, none on Sunday
Party: Something near what you would have done on Sunday morning
Saturday: Carb up dinner, breakfast on Sunday

Pauli D can probably offer you a more better idea, but that’s what I’d go with. If you don’t watch your carbs at this work party, the energy drop a couple hours later might be bad depending on how long your party lasts and so I figured some amount of carbs comparable to what you would have had for a Sunday breakfast.

Had my first shot of olive oil today. It was a double. I needed to up my fat more since I missed it earlier in the day. Tasted pretty good. Not like the cod liver oil I used to take years ago.

Been on a 15 day maintenance phase, but I just realized that I took about 40-45 grams of carbs each day. Do I have to restart this phase again, or should I proceed to carb up?

Thanks!

[quote]samdan wrote:
Your plan SOUNDS like it would work to me, although again I’m coming from something like a 40-hour carb up every week and it hasn’t hurt me yet.

You might even go with:

Saturday: Normal Carbs, none on Sunday
Party: Something near what you would have done on Sunday morning
Saturday: Carb up dinner, breakfast on Sunday

Pauli D can probably offer you a more better idea, but that’s what I’d go with. If you don’t watch your carbs at this work party, the energy drop a couple hours later might be bad depending on how long your party lasts and so I figured some amount of carbs comparable to what you would have had for a Sunday breakfast.[/quote]

Sounds good to me. Don’t over-think it -and don’t overdo it.
The AD can be very social and very forgiving…if done with your head screwed on straight.
~Paul

[quote]Forkit wrote:
Been on a 15 day maintenance phase, but I just realized that I took about 40-45 grams of carbs each day. Do I have to restart this phase again, or should I proceed to carb up?

Thanks![/quote]

Where did the carbs come from?
What have you been eating and how did you go over?

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Forkit wrote:
Been on a 15 day maintenance phase, but I just realized that I took about 40-45 grams of carbs each day. Do I have to restart this phase again, or should I proceed to carb up?

Thanks!

Where did the carbs come from?
What have you been eating and how did you go over?[/quote]

The carbs came mostly from 2 table spoons of bbq sauce I used for my steaks. Besides that, my diet basically revolved around chicken thighs, eggs, hamburger meat, cheese, and porkchops. Only veggie I had was spinach, besides the few onions tomatoes pepper cilantro mushroom I used for my morning omlettes (the veggies for the omlette would amount for about 1 cup altogether, which totals less than 2-3 g of carbs).

[quote]Forkit wrote:
Pauli D wrote:
Forkit wrote:
Been on a 15 day maintenance phase, but I just realized that I took about 40-45 grams of carbs each day. Do I have to restart this phase again, or should I proceed to carb up?

Thanks!

Where did the carbs come from?
What have you been eating and how did you go over?

The carbs came mostly from 2 table spoons of bbq sauce I used for my steaks. Besides that, my diet basically revolved around chicken thighs, eggs, hamburger meat, cheese, and porkchops. Only veggie I had was spinach, besides the few onions tomatoes pepper cilantro mushroom I used for my morning omlettes (the veggies for the omlette would amount for about 1 cup altogether, which totals less than 2-3 g of carbs).
[/quote]

And have you leaned up at all?

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Forkit wrote:
Pauli D wrote:
Forkit wrote:
Been on a 15 day maintenance phase, but I just realized that I took about 40-45 grams of carbs each day. Do I have to restart this phase again, or should I proceed to carb up?

Thanks!

Where did the carbs come from?
What have you been eating and how did you go over?

The carbs came mostly from 2 table spoons of bbq sauce I used for my steaks. Besides that, my diet basically revolved around chicken thighs, eggs, hamburger meat, cheese, and porkchops. Only veggie I had was spinach, besides the few onions tomatoes pepper cilantro mushroom I used for my morning omlettes (the veggies for the omlette would amount for about 1 cup altogether, which totals less than 2-3 g of carbs).

And have you leaned up at all?[/quote]

Yes sir, I gained weight but I seem to be losing bodyfat. My stomach is shrinking and its noticable. My arms are also producing visible veins.