My Experience On the Anabolic Diet Part II

[quote]colinphenom wrote:
Does anyone get night sweats on the AD? If you did, did it go away? I am on day three and I am sweating worse than I do on dnp and feel absolutely exhausted in the morning because I am waking up 2-3 times a night drenched in sweat…[/quote]

At what time(s) are you waking?

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
colinphenom wrote:
Does anyone get night sweats on the AD? If you did, did it go away? I am on day three and I am sweating worse than I do on dnp and feel absolutely exhausted in the morning because I am waking up 2-3 times a night drenched in sweat…

At what time(s) are you waking?[/quote]

Im not sure at what time I woke up I dont sleep with any lights facing my bed, alarm included.
It must have just been my metabolism adjusting to the increase in kcals and fat? Yesterday I had a 15 minute nap in the afternoon and woke up drenched again. Although last night I did not sweat at all and did not sweat during my nap today either. I was not nearly as lethargic today as I have been the past few although I am starting to feel like shit during the later hours. Have I crashed this early four days in or should I still be expecting the worst?

I know this problems, but in my experience it´s just at the beginning of this diet-style. Now I´m sleeping very well!

But what I have to say, for me the works better with a little higher carb-intake. Maybe 50g per day (all of veggies)! I feel much better and I think my progresses are also better now.

Hi, just got a quick question about the crash you’re supposed to have during the first week of the adaptation phase. I’ve been on the AD for six days now, but haven’t had a real definite crash. I mean I’ve felt a bit foggy here and there, but nothing drastic. Workouts haven’t really been affected, strength is about the same. I did the AD last year and didn’t crash either, but had previously been eating somewhat low carb, so I put it down to that. Since I’ve been eating quite a lot of carbs lately, I thought I might experience the infamous crash this time around.

Does everyone have a real definite crash, and is that a real sign of the beginning of being fat adapted ?

Do most people report a drop in strength during the adaptation phase ?

This has probably been answered before but Im struggling to find it:

Im planning to start AD the week after next and basically I wake up have breakfast and 45min-1 hour later im in the gym, so should I tailor what I eat for this time i.e. have a small meal so I havent got a huge meal sitting on my stomach, or should I not worry and just eat what I planned i.e.

5 eggs (probably raw to save time + cinnamon+splenda to make it palatable) + 1tbsp fish oil

Should I change anything? or add some supplementation etc. any advice appreciated

Dan

[quote]SpiderDan wrote:
This has probably been answered before but Im struggling to find it:

Im planning to start AD the week after next and basically I wake up have breakfast and 45min-1 hour later im in the gym, so should I tailor what I eat for this time i.e. have a small meal so I havent got a huge meal sitting on my stomach, or should I not worry and just eat what I planned i.e.

5 eggs (probably raw to save time + cinnamon+splenda to make it palatable) + 1tbsp fish oil

Should I change anything? or add some supplementation etc. any advice appreciated

Dan

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If the eggs are eaten raw there shouldn’t be much of a problem. I find cooked eggs to sit in my stomach alot heavier than raw so you should be ok. It’s really up to you and how you feel at the gym.

[quote]colinphenom wrote:

Im not sure at what time I woke up I dont sleep with any lights facing my bed, alarm included.
It must have just been my metabolism adjusting to the increase in kcals and fat? Yesterday I had a 15 minute nap in the afternoon and woke up drenched again. Although last night I did not sweat at all and did not sweat during my nap today either. I was not nearly as lethargic today as I have been the past few although I am starting to feel like shit during the later hours. Have I crashed this early four days in or should I still be expecting the worst?[/quote]

A lot of folks feel hot or sweat more -night or day -it just depends on the individual.

Same thing with the “crash” -It may be a short-lived event -or it may be several days of flu-like symptoms -OR…it just depends on the individual. Your mileage may vary. The AD is just like that…

;^)

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Same thing with the “crash” -It may be a short-lived event -or it may be several days of flu-like symptoms -OR…it just depends on the individual. Your mileage may vary. The AD is just like that…

;^) [/quote]

Thanks for the input.

Yeah my crash was on day 8 as I recall. Started in the afternoon. In my case there was no mistaking it. It wasn’t horrible, but I felt heavy, achy, a bit of a headache, kinda like a hangover. It was gone the next morning.

one more question,

For the second week of the start up phase, how should you work out ? Considering that most of the glycogen stored in the muscles will be depleted, what will the muscles use for energy ? Should you treat it like a deload week and back off a little, or is it still safe to train at full intensity ?

Train how you feel.

My understanding is that the only energy a muscle can use for intense heavy weight training is glycogen. So is there no chance during the second week that muscle will catabolise itself for energy ?

Sorry for the newb questions, you must have heard the same ones a million times.

[quote]Zhelezen wrote:
My understanding is that the only energy a muscle can use for intense heavy weight training is glycogen. So is there no chance during the second week that muscle will catabolise itself for energy ?

Sorry for the newb questions, you must have heard the same ones a million times.[/quote]

I would train heavy, low reps. This will use the atp stores as well as creatine phosphate systems instead of high reps which would require glycolytic pathways to minimize any muscle catabolism. I am not doing it this way because I don’t want to change my program, however I will be supplementing extra glutamine (can be converted to glycogen for exercise) as well as BCAA’s to prevent any muscle catabolism, of which I wasn’t planning on bothering with for the rest of the diet because protein intake is so high.

thanks colinphenom, I just read some of a PDF on the CKD by Lyle McDonald which pretty much confirms what you wrote. Sets shorter than 20 secs are fuelled by ATP and CP. So heavy weight low reps would be better. I tend to stick below 10 reps anyway, so shouldn’t affect me much.

[quote]Zhelezen wrote:
thanks colinphenom, I just read some of a PDF on the CKD by Lyle McDonald which pretty much confirms what you wrote. Sets shorter than 20 secs are fuelled by ATP and CP. So heavy weight low reps would be better. I tend to stick below 10 reps anyway, so shouldn’t affect me much.[/quote]

It’s funny, I’be known that for awhile but didn’t even think about it. I’m doing my strength workouts each week with sets not generally over 8 reps and then just LI cardio so I’m probably hardly using up my glycogen

You can always travel to Indianapolis to see Mike Hart play for the Colts. ;0

I started pulsing cuz I’m a restless “tinkerer”. I’m not sure thats a legal Scrabble word but if Jesse Jackson can show artistic license then so can I.

If theres a smarter way to do it, I want to know about it sums me up.

Rotating meat sources? Nothing planned. Budget usually does that! Its been more chicken and less steak for awhile now. Maybe next year if the market stabilizes…

I probably consume about 1/2 my protein as wpc. I cannot eat a large volume of food at once, unless Im loading, so liquid calories are my friend.

I need to hook up with a hunter and get some deer. I actually tried elk for the first time last year and it was OUTSTANDING. Best meat Ive ever eaten.

DH

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
DH wrote:
hey Buddy. How you been?

Your Lions should have made a move for Jay Cutler (the one that REALLY gets paid for all those who are confused her). Letting the Bears get him will prove costly.

DH

DH!

Yea…I didn’t have ANY football around here last year, ya believe that?

Wolverines didn’t show up -and the Lions…yeesh! All that dough for that nice big stadium…
But what’cha gonna do, right?

So the hyperaminoacidemia thing…how’s that going anyway?
What was your original purpose for running it -lessen the demand for whole food?

Another question:
Have you ever experimented with animal protein sources? -Meaning, have you ever used say ~poultry only for a length of time -then used beef and game only then compared?
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hopefully im not the second person to ask this question on the thread. but i got no idea how we still eat the g of fat we need using a george foreman, let alone a griddle. it drains the fat away u know? no matter how u cook it, u wont keep the fat. so do i pour all the fat that was spilled out into my dish and pour all the fat from the gf drip tray into my dish? blech but im willing to do wat it takes.

[quote]vcjha wrote:
hopefully im not the second person to ask this question on the thread. but i got no idea how we still eat the g of fat we need using a george foreman, let alone a griddle. it drains the fat away u know? no matter how u cook it, u wont keep the fat. so do i pour all the fat that was spilled out into my dish and pour all the fat from the gf drip tray into my dish? blech but im willing to do wat it takes.[/quote]

Most of that is water, not fat. I’ve heard several times that the Foreman grill doesn’t cook away any more fat than other cooking methods. Yes, some fat is cooked away, but not that much.

thanks for the quick reply. so it would be useless to pour the fat back into the meat? i was stupid but i poured the fat back in and actually ate it blech and i actually felt my body become less lazy alot more energetic, and more cut in four hours. can anyone explain this, and if so, do u think dr. di pasquale would reccommend this?

[quote]vcjha wrote:
thanks for the quick reply. so it would be useless to pour the fat back into the meat? i was stupid but i poured the fat back in and actually ate it blech and i actually felt my body become less lazy alot more energetic, and more cut in four hours. can anyone explain this, and if so, do u think dr. di pasquale would reccommend this?[/quote]

You’re making this way more complicated than it has to be. Just cook and eat hamburgers however you like. They will have lots of fat in any case unless you squeeze them to death between a stack of paper towels. One of the bonuses here is that you don’t have to buy lean more expensive varieties of hamburger. If in doubt have some EVOO.

I think you’re imagination is getting the best of you too. Especially about being more cut in 4 hours. Nobody gets noticeably more cut in 4 hours without liposuction.