[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
AlisaV wrote:
Beans. I keep forgetting beans. Thanks, that’s good advice.
Beans are good food. Cheap and nutritious.
Lotsa fiber, very steady low GI/GL carb source, some micros and protein, though the protein is incomplete.[/quote]
The phytoestrogens in beans not freak you out a little Tiribulus?
The fiber is good, sure -but not enough to make me go all legume happy -but that’s just me. It may not be an issue for you -or for many I suppose.
Typically, if one is insulin-resistant -beans are not a very good idea.
For men with high skinfolds at the tricep and pec sites -beans are bad news.
Females with high skinfolds at the thigh, hips and glute should stay away from 'em too.
You from England? -You have enough estrogen pollution in your water to give you troubles -you really don’t need beans!
Like I say though, it’s going to depend on the individual, their genetics and current fitness level. The leaner you are, the more room you have on the load. I’m just not crazy about beans in general I guess.
/end rant and totally not slamming Tiribulus -slamming beans -sure. Tirib’s a good-guy
[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
AlisaV wrote:
Beans. I keep forgetting beans. Thanks, that’s good advice.
Beans are good food. Cheap and nutritious.
Lotsa fiber, very steady low GI/GL carb source, some micros and protein, though the protein is incomplete.
The phytoestrogens in beans not freak you out a little Tiribulus?
The fiber is good, sure -but not enough to make me go all legume happy -but that’s just me. It may not be an issue for you -or for many I suppose.
Typically, if one is insulin-resistant -beans are not a very good idea.
For men with high skinfolds at the tricep and pec sites -beans are bad news.
Females with high skinfolds at the thigh, hips and glute should stay away from 'em too.
You from England? -You have enough estrogen pollution in your water to give you troubles -you really don’t need beans!
Like I say though, it’s going to depend on the individual, their genetics and current fitness level. The leaner you are, the more room you have on the load. I’m just not crazy about beans in general I guess.
/end rant and totally not slamming Tiribulus -slamming beans -sure. Tirib’s a good-guy
;^)
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Not to be argumentative, (you’re a good guy too) but what you are saying concerning beans and insulin resistance runs contrary to everything I’ve read. Also, the mere presence of phytoestrogens, which occur naturally in A LOT of plant based foods don’t particularly alarm me in the amounts they’re found there. I only eat maybe a couple cups anyway. I actually read somewhere (don’t remember) a while ago where naturally occurring dietary phytoestrogens were being associated with a decreased risk of cancer in both men and women, but especially women. Xenoestrogens are another story.
Pauli –
Nope, not from England. I’m 'murrican all the way. And yes, I carry fat in the rear, though I have no idea if it has anything to do with how I respond to phytoestrogens. In my vegetarian days I ate a LOT of beans and tofu, loved them. At any rate, ought to be better than my usual sugar-crap.
/end rant and totally not slamming Tiribulus -slamming beans -sure. Tirib’s a good-guy
;^)
Not to be argumentative, (you’re a good guy too) but what you are saying concerning beans and insulin resistance runs contrary to everything I’ve read. Also, the mere presence of phytoestrogens, which occur naturally in A LOT of plant based foods don’t particularly alarm me in the amounts they’re found there. I only eat maybe a couple cups anyway. I actually read somewhere (don’t remember) a while ago where naturally occurring dietary phytoestrogens were being associated with a decreased risk of cancer in both men and women, but especially women. Xenoestrogens are another story.[/quote]
Nope -not arguing either…(probably just showing off) ;^)
What did you read about beans and insulin resistance, out of curiosity?
[quote]AlisaV wrote:
Pauli –
Nope, not from England. I’m 'murrican all the way. And yes, I carry fat in the rear, though I have no idea if it has anything to do with how I respond to phytoestrogens. In my vegetarian days I ate a LOT of beans and tofu, loved them. At any rate, ought to be better than my usual sugar-crap.[/quote]
AlisaV,
Not trying to scare you away from beans, You’re right, compared to sugar -beans win hands down.
I just don’t like beans, grains or dairy…don’t like 'em and ask folks to stay away from them.
They may work for you though.
May I ask…
Did vegetarianism work for you? Were you ‘fat in the can’ then too?
How do your joints feel?
If you still menstruate -is it tough on you? -cramps? -mood swings? -migraines?
I’ve always been a normal-sized person, not overweight (look at profile for some pictures.) Started paying attention to diet for the first time ever, around March; realized I was getting essentially all my calories from carbs, and found it nearly impossible to follow standard T-Nation nutritional advice as a vegetarian. Since switching over I think I’ve made some improvements, but it’s hard to tell if it’s the beans or just overall giving up my gluttonous ways.
Never had joint problems; and I have very easy periods.
Your Lions should have made a move for Jay Cutler (the one that REALLY gets paid for all those who are confused her). Letting the Bears get him will prove costly.
DH
[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Ha! You’re neither, DH -I know better!
The good news is…I ain’t really that handsome -so we’re even
;^)
DH wrote:
Im cheap and easy. I’ll admit it.
sunshne wrote:
DH wrote:
What happened to my “baby”?! The original thread is locked.
BTW, why didn’t anyone tell me Pauli D was so handsome.
DH
lol, is that what we have to do to lure you over here??
/end rant and totally not slamming Tiribulus -slamming beans -sure. Tirib’s a good-guy
;^)
Not to be argumentative, (you’re a good guy too) but what you are saying concerning beans and insulin resistance runs contrary to everything I’ve read. Also, the mere presence of phytoestrogens, which occur naturally in A LOT of plant based foods don’t particularly alarm me in the amounts they’re found there. I only eat maybe a couple cups anyway. I actually read somewhere (don’t remember) a while ago where naturally occurring dietary phytoestrogens were being associated with a decreased risk of cancer in both men and women, but especially women. Xenoestrogens are another story.
Nope -not arguing either…(probably just showing off) ;^)
What did you read about beans and insulin resistance, out of curiosity?
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I guess I’m taking it from the standpoint of being a type 2 diabetic. A term I really hate, but that’s another story. When I was researching that, I gotta be honest, I was tripping knee deep in referenced web articles and forum posts by long time diabetics proclaiming various “meaty” beans as an excellent carb source due to the exceptionally low rate at which they are processed into blood glucose. I know the AD way is to slam some high GI cho first on load days, but my blood glucose will still spike if I do that and I personally don’t see the usefulness.
Curious as to what you strength gains/losses have been on this diet and how people have responded in terms of body change for muscle mass and body fat… I’m not exactly counting calories right now but I have a general idea of what I’m taking in and so far my strength has gone up a decent amount for me. I’d love to do a cut but I simply don’t have the strength/muscle mass to make it worth doing a traditional one. I’m hoping with eating this way that I might be able to increase muscle mass a little while dropping in over all BF.
[quote]MDur8 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
MDur8 wrote:
Anyone using macadamia nut oil instead of olive oil?
I don’t think I’d use any oil INSTEAD of olive oil.
Why is that? From what I understand the mac nut oil has more mufa’s…and it tastes pretty damn good[/quote]
Mac nut oil has to be very expensive and EVOO, assuming it’s real (another whole topic) is universally documented as being very healthy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Mac nut oil is also quite healthy though I haven’t looked. I’m just saying I wouldn’t eliminate olive oil.
Does anyone get night sweats on the AD? If you did, did it go away? I am on day three and I am sweating worse than I do on dnp and feel absolutely exhausted in the morning because I am waking up 2-3 times a night drenched in sweat…
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
MDur8 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
MDur8 wrote:
Anyone using macadamia nut oil instead of olive oil?
I don’t think I’d use any oil INSTEAD of olive oil.
Why is that? From what I understand the mac nut oil has more mufa’s…and it tastes pretty damn good
Mac nut oil has to be very expensive and EVOO, assuming it’s real (another whole topic) is universally documented as being very healthy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Mac nut oil is also quite healthy though I haven’t looked. I’m just saying I wouldn’t eliminate olive oil.[/quote]
Actually its quite inexpensive, I bought a gallon for $45. Its also supposed to be 83-85% mufa while EVOO is 73-75%. Sorry not trying to argue here, its just Evoo makes me gag when I put it in shakes haha
[quote]MDur8 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
MDur8 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
MDur8 wrote:
Anyone using macadamia nut oil instead of olive oil?
I don’t think I’d use any oil INSTEAD of olive oil.
Why is that? From what I understand the mac nut oil has more mufa’s…and it tastes pretty damn good
Mac nut oil has to be very expensive and EVOO, assuming it’s real (another whole topic) is universally documented as being very healthy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Mac nut oil is also quite healthy though I haven’t looked. I’m just saying I wouldn’t eliminate olive oil.
Actually its quite inexpensive, I bought a gallon for $45. Its also supposed to be 83-85% mufa while EVOO is 73-75%. Sorry not trying to argue here, its just Evoo makes me gag when I put it in shakes haha[/quote]
That is cheaper than I thought it would be though I never priced it. I assumed since the nuts are so expensive that the oil would be too.
[quote]AlisaV wrote:
I’ve always been a normal-sized person, not overweight (look at profile for some pictures.) Started paying attention to diet for the first time ever, around March; realized I was getting essentially all my calories from carbs, and found it nearly impossible to follow standard T-Nation nutritional advice as a vegetarian. Since switching over I think I’ve made some improvements, but it’s hard to tell if it’s the beans or just overall giving up my gluttonous ways.
Never had joint problems; and I have very easy periods.[/quote]
Well the AD is a very, very good strategy to take. You will certainly be in a much better place health-wise and you stand to reach your physique goals much easier too. Good for you!
Don’t fret about the beans. If you’re relatively lean and only using beans as a carb source for your loads, you shouldn’t have a problem.
Your Lions should have made a move for Jay Cutler (the one that REALLY gets paid for all those who are confused her). Letting the Bears get him will prove costly.
DH
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DH!
Yea…I didn’t have ANY football around here last year, ya believe that?
Wolverines didn’t show up -and the Lions…yeesh! All that dough for that nice big stadium…
But what’cha gonna do, right?
So the hyperaminoacidemia thing…how’s that going anyway?
What was your original purpose for running it -lessen the demand for whole food?
Another question:
Have you ever experimented with animal protein sources? -Meaning, have you ever used say ~poultry only for a length of time -then used beef and game only then compared?
