Wow, now THAT’S a first impression!
Solid-looking recipe!
I know, right??? 
Can’t wait to try that!!
by chance, anyone know a ballpark the temperatures for each setting of a stove? Say setting 5-high? using a non-stick pan
I’m going to try that recipe. It looks awesome. I might try some unsweetend applesauce in place of some of the oil. It will only add about 10g of carbs to the whole thing, but cut out a lot of the oil.
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
by chance, anyone know a ballpark the temperatures for each setting of a stove? Say setting 5-high? using a non-stick pan[/quote]
I would have thought it’s dependent on the brand and model, perhaps you could look up your stoves specs online?
[quote]HulkSmash7 wrote:
I’m going to try that recipe. It looks awesome. I might try some unsweetend applesauce in place of some of the oil. It will only add about 10g of carbs to the whole thing, but cut out a lot of the oil. [/quote]
That sounds like a good idea - I’ve cut out cured meats like ham and bacon which has freed up a few grams of carbs here and there so I might give it a try.
I did also try adding broken almond pieces and cocoa powder (along with the usual cinnamon); frying it in butter as pancakes. It was good but without any kind of sweetener it was kinda plain.
I really do love the AD - it has been said numerous times but it really is very forgiving.
I upped my calories from maintenance of 2700-2800 to around 3500 or so while at the same time introducing twice-daily whey shakes (see my post about milk-allergy) and within less than a week I felt (and looked) like I’d reverted back to the shape I was in before even the induction phase. In all fairness I’ve still gained more LBM on this diet than ever before but I felt like I was gaining fat at an alarming rate.
In hindsight I think a large part of this must have been to do with the bloating caused by the whey + cream and cheeses I was eating.
I’m feeling good today though, got my abs back pretty quickly after quitting the dairy (and dropping cals to 500 below maintenance) so everyday bears new progress now.
I only took around 2050 calories yesterday though so I’d best make up for it today! S’all good though, it’s a Arms+Shoulders and Legs+Core day on Waterbury’s Total Body Split Training. I might throw in asome hill-sprinting too seeing as I just have so much energy and such great recovery times on this diet.
Roll on Sunday’s carb-load so I can feel smooth and bloated again hah…
Look up Walden farms everyone…NOW!!! They have sugar-free dressings, fruit spreads, syrup, dips and such. The sweetener they use is sucralose so no sugar alcohol! Oh and theyre quite tasty! Ive used their BBQ and salad dressings quite often! Its delicious. So El Sonido go to your local health food place and get some syrup…oh and btw just upping calories by 700 in one go? of course you’ll gain! Gotta be systematic. Add 250 or so at a time and see how progress goes after a week or two. Then change based on those factors. Another thing, I guarantee along with that cal spike you also significantly added sodium! So, I bet a lot of that is retained water!
BTW why are we dropping the oil from the flax bread recipe and replacing it with apple sauce? We are on the AD arent we? And all that oil? Really is, all that healthy monounsaturated fats with a nice dose of polys as well…
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
Look up Walden farms everyone…NOW!!! They have sugar-free dressings, fruit spreads, syrup, dips and such. The sweetener they use is sucralose so no sugar alcohol! Oh and theyre quite tasty! Ive used their BBQ and salad dressings quite often! Its delicious. So El Sonido go to your local health food place and get some syrup…oh and btw just upping calories by 700 in one go? of course you’ll gain! Gotta be systematic. Add 250 or so at a time and see how progress goes after a week or two. Then change based on those factors. Another thing, I guarantee along with that cal spike you also significantly added sodium! So, I bet a lot of that is retained water!
BTW why are we dropping the oil from the flax bread recipe and replacing it with apple sauce? We are on the AD arent we? And all that oil? Really is, all that healthy monounsaturated fats with a nice dose of polys as well…[/quote]
I’m really not so sure about Walden Farms. I’ve been looking through their website and doing a few searches to find some of their ingredients lists, so far I’ve come across the usual vague ‘natural’ or ‘artificial’ flavour labels that leave way too much to the imagination.
I remember reading about ingredients listing requirements a while back and ‘natural’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘non-carcinogenic’ or generally ‘non-harmful’ - the article I read did list some specific examples of this but I really don’t remember the details. (While of course at the same time ‘artificial’ doesn’t necessarily have to mean ‘harmful’).
I really would love to try their pancake syrup and peanut spread though hehe
(Peanut Spread Ingredients: Triple Filtered Purified Water, Cellulose Gum, Salt, Corn Starch, Xanthan Gum, Natural Fresh Roasted Peanut Flavoring, Natural Peanut Extract, Peanut Flour, Caramel Color, Lactic Acid, Propolyene Glycol Alginate, Sucralose.
And from http://www.glutensmart.com/wffruit.html:
Strawberry Fruit Spread Ingredients: Triple Filtered Purified Water, strawberry flavor, dehydrated strawberries, natural flavors, sucralose, citric acid, cellulose gel, red cabbage color, xanthan gum, sodium benzoate.)
Call me picky but that’s just too non-specific for me and I’m not liking the sodium benzoate.
(Maybe I just picked bad examples though).
Anyway, as for my calorie increase you’re totally right, stupid move on my part. Thanks for the heads up, I think I’ll sit around 3000 for a while and see how I go.
I don’t currently have any scales so it’s a real pain in the ass having to make semi-estimated guesses about my current weight based on what it was a few months ago and my appearance is now - I would speculate that my maintenance is probably more like 2800-2900 but I’m going to stay around 3000 for a while, of course I’m still in the early days of the AD right now so I’m not too concerned for the timebeing - my body comp is still improving.
I didn’t do the 12 day induction phase because when i read about it i didn’t know i was supposed to… i’m on day eleven and tomorrow is my 3rd carb up day… ( last sat and sunday were my first two ) … what should i do… carb up tomorrow and sunday and just keep going? because i can’t go back and make it a 12 day induction, i wish i would have though… am i fine?
[quote]LogTrog wrote:
I didn’t do the 12 day induction phase because when i read about it i didn’t know i was supposed to… i’m on day eleven and tomorrow is my 3rd carb up day… ( last sat and sunday were my first two ) … what should i do… carb up tomorrow and sunday and just keep going? because i can’t go back and make it a 12 day induction, i wish i would have though… am i fine?[/quote]
By my understanding the 12 day induction isn’t a strict requirement, it just ensures a fuller glycogen depletion and therefore a more immediate initial adaptation.
I would assume that another benefit of the 12 day induction is that you will more likely experience just one ‘major’ crash instead of recurring bouts lethargy as your body adapts more slowly.
I’m not expecting to be fully fat-adapted for several months so I suppose projecting into the long-term it really shouldn’t be an issue either way.
Of course I’m open to correction this…
[quote]LogTrog wrote:
I didn’t do the 12 day induction phase because when i read about it i didn’t know i was supposed to… i’m on day eleven and tomorrow is my 3rd carb up day… ( last sat and sunday were my first two ) … what should i do… carb up tomorrow and sunday and just keep going? because i can’t go back and make it a 12 day induction, i wish i would have though… am i fine?[/quote]
Sorry, on second glance I’m just trying to understand this.
So you mean that this is your second carb-load phase overall, I assume? I think I’m just being dim here…
As long as you are being strict enough on your low-carb days and your activity level is high enough I think you should be fine.
I don’t think the good Dr. even mentions the 12 day induction in the original AD, though of course that doesn’t mean a thing…
[quote]LogTrog wrote:
I didn’t do the 12 day induction phase because when i read about it i didn’t know i was supposed to… i’m on day eleven and tomorrow is my 3rd carb up day… ( last sat and sunday were my first two ) … what should i do… carb up tomorrow and sunday and just keep going? because i can’t go back and make it a 12 day induction, i wish i would have though… am i fine?[/quote]
Well, do you feel like your body adapted with one week of induction? How did your first carb-up feel? Did you notice subcutaneous (did I spell that right? lol) and muscle fullness from the extra glycogen? Have you had any “crashes” during the low-carb phase? And how religious were you about tracking your carbs during the induction?
I wouldn’t stress too much, I don’t think you ruined your diet or anything! It may just take a little longer for your body to get fat-adapted than if you shocked it with a longer induction.
Okay guys, so today is my first carb-up!!! I was so happy because today is also my daghter’s birthday, so I got to have CAKE!!! Do you know how long it’s been since I tasted cake? OMG! But now my tummy hurts. 
Too much too soon I think.
That was really my only “dirty” meal today, the rest of my carbs were home-made oatmeal and yogurt, sweet potatoes, and fruit, and some whole grain bread. Tomorrow I’m going to try to stay squeaky-clean, because I don’t want to get into the habit of gorging on trash during my carb-up.
I’m looking foward to my leg workout tomorrow! I’m ready to crank out some killer squats!!
I wanted to ask you guys about protein during the carb-up though. Mine was a little over 100g today, with my PWO shake, a hamburger, and my pb and stuff. Is that bad? It seems a little high. What do you guys think?
Okay, i have been keeping track of everything put in my mouth the entire time and have gone by good with everything… ate a lot of poopy food last weekend but i was craving it all. And idk if my body has adjusted… this morning and last friday morning i could definantly tell i look a lot skinnier and i’m drained of all energy at the end of each week… i’m just going to keep to it… :X
I love this lifestyle! Tomorrow Im starting my carb up with some take home from the asian restaurant I work at (lots of brown rice) and then hittin up the Cheesecake Factory with my mom and bro! Then Im gonna be puttin down peanut butter and dry fruit sammiches!! Oh and a can of maple baked beans… I fuckin love baked beans! then As my treat Im making myself a nice big ice-cream sandwhich oh and Ill also be sharing a nice portion of chocolate cake from the Factory with my lunch guests
Oy Vay! my muskles are so droopy! Cant wait to fill’em up! One thing I love about this is that the taste of a nice bloody rare mooing steak always leaves me feelin like the animal we all have inside! Num NUM!
So I felt well and truly depleted for yesterday’s arm/shoulder workout and ended up in bed by 8:30pm so I decided to bring my carb-load forward one day.
I thought I’d end the day with a 30-minute aerobics session just to squeeze out dem last drops heh
This works well for me as I’m now nicely lined up with the weekend.
I’ve been doing fairly well with 12 hour loads (one day every fifth day, roughly 6am-6pm) but as I’m increasing my workload I’m finding it to be just a little short of sufficient.
I don’t want to repeat the horrors of my first EXCESSIVE load - half a pecan-pie and a litre of ice cream takes many days for a milk-allergic person to recover from - so I’m going to keep my calories at around 3000 and spread the load over two days (depending on how I feel/look) with lots of nice clean carbs.
Today I’m on:
Oats (with PB, cocoa powder, cinnamon, raisins, maybe some molasses).
Spaghetti + a nice oily, garlicy tomato sauce.
Butternut squash + raisin curry with brown rice.
Oh man I need to go splash my face with some cold water… haha
Must… maintain… control…
Btw bkmacky9288 I’m absolutely loving the sound of dried fruit and PB sandwiches, I gotta get me some of that today for sure!
Yep just had one of those sandwiches, added a cup of yogurt on there, and Ill tell ya it was dericious! I decided to add a giant Chocolate-1/2Butterscotch-Banana Cream pudding to my carb load. Its the sugar free kind which I thought Id use for shakes but never do so now its my treat Oh I also have had a giant 53 carb choco-chip cookie topped with some dairy free ice-cream!
Later today: Cheesecake Factory and lots of asian food with brown rice! Ugh Im really gonna have to chill the fuck out Ive already planned out 3/4 my carb load and its not lookin like that much!!
I believe AC/DC mustve been on the AD after listening to T.N.T once more…“So lock up your daughter
Lock up your wife
Lock up your back door
And run for your life…”
Cuz I have that good ol’ feelin of eating everything plus the cute neighborhood dog that runs stray every so often
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
I believe AC/DC mustve been on the AD after listening to T.N.T once more…“So lock up your daughter
Lock up your wife
Lock up your back door
And run for your life…”
Cuz I have that good ol’ feelin of eating everything plus the cute neighborhood dog that runs stray every so often[/quote]
Man I know how you feel. Today I keep getting ravenously hungry every couple of hours, I keep finding recipes online that I want to make.
I’m just gonna have to say fuck it and ride it all the way to hell. I’ve been at a caloric deficit all week so so I’m gonna just kick my own ass today and get back to the deficit on Monday.
I can’t wait to try those fruit and PB sandwiches - (emphasis on the plurality).
I don’t remember if I’ve mentioned this before, but has anyone else consistently woken up from 7-11 hours of sleep without any sort of hunger? My stomach has a warm comfort to it without any feeling of a void. If I weren’t concerned with starting my day with some grooming/hygiene followed by breakfast, I think food would be the last thing on my mind.
By the way, this even applied to waking up from a day of 1600 calories (though my last meal would be the last thing I did before going to bed).
With this subject of fullness in mind, I’d also like to share that any time I eat a sweet potato (roughly 250-300g) with some vegetables and lean meat (nearly no fat in this meal), I will be stuffed from the sweet potato, mainly. The calories will only be like, 400-600 as well.