First off,english are not my primary language so im going to do my best to be readable.
Taking drugs or not are a question of values.Im proud to have 5 years of training without use of drugs excepting a cycle of UNIVERSAL ANIMAL TEST.Excepting acne and a bad mood,i got nothing from it.I was young and
stupid.Things have changed then
im a weltherweight and proud to be.I really cant understand why a guy want to be super huge.Take a look on ronnie
coleman,he can be compared to a mutant…he’s gross.He’s so huge that im sure he need special clothes just for him.I noticed guys here who rants about lightweights or weltherweights but man,i prefer to attract girls.
i challenge a heavyweight vs a weltherweight to see how many girls they are going to attract in a club.The smaller but more naturally trained guy are going to win high time.
It depend of what type of goal you want to reach.For me,a shape like a healthy young jean claude van damme are
my goal.If you guys want to be like jay cuttler…well go for it but one thing need to be said,you will never be like him and i think its nice like that.
On steroids and HGH,you have the illusion of being strong but in reality your are strong because you are on juice.And the sad part is when you gonna stop taking it definitively,you are not going to be motivated to continue to train naturally due the fact that your not going to have the positive thing of it.
thats why i will not take them.
Being a poser are not in my values and
don’t worry,poeple can notice if you are on juice or not.Sure its a your choice to take them but put in your mind thats its not hot to be huge.We are not in the 80’s.
I prefer to train hard but not extremely and have other interestings thing to do in life instead of looking myself in a mirror all day long and being sad because i’m not satisfied about my physique.
First off,english are not my primary language so im going to do my best to be readable.
Taking drugs or not are a question of values.Im proud to have 5 years of training without use of drugs excepting a cycle of UNIVERSAL ANIMAL TEST.Excepting acne and a bad mood,i got nothing from it.I was young and
stupid.Things have changed then
im a weltherweight and proud to be.I really cant understand why a guy want to be super huge.Take a look on ronnie
coleman,he can be compared to a mutant…he’s gross.He’s so huge that im sure he need special clothes just for him.I noticed guys here who rants about lightweights or weltherweights but man,i prefer to attract girls.
i challenge a heavyweight vs a weltherweight to see how many girls they are going to attract in a club.The smaller but more naturally trained guy are going to win high time.
It depend of what type of goal you want to reach.For me,a shape like a healthy young jean claude van damme are
my goal.If you guys want to be like jay cuttler…well go for it but one thing need to be said,you will never be like him and i think its nice like that.
On steroids and HGH,you have the illusion of being strong but in reality your are strong because you are on juice.And the sad part is when you gonna stop taking it definitively,you are not going to be motivated to continue to train naturally due the fact that your not going to have the positive thing of it.
thats why i will not take them.
Being a poser are not in my values and
don’t worry,poeple can notice if you are on juice or not.Sure its a your choice to take them but put in your mind thats its not hot to be huge.We are not in the 80’s.
I prefer to train hard but not extremely and have other interestings thing to do in life instead of looking myself in a mirror all day long and being sad because i’m not satisfied about my physique.
You know,you got me thinking. It’s hard not to see the conections between steroids and all these health problems. It’s too bad everybody else is in denial.
My only problem is your screen name and avatar. How can you possibly name yourself after a video game or claim to be a fan of any video game when video games are responsible for all the recent school shootings. They’re basically responsible for all forms of teen violence and you name youself after one. How disrespectful.
Good point malonetd!
Seriously Beast(ha), troll elsewhere.
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I do not belive the game can pull an actual trigger. As parents, we are responsible to monitor what our children see and do, who they chill with.
I am by no means taking sides just pointing out that there is a lot of pointing fingers going on.
[quote]jbdd wrote:
o.k. can we quit indulging this troll now or maybe we can all find a scrawny video game geek forum and waste HIS time on that enough already!!![/quote]
You break two inches of cement with your fist then talk to me about body weight.
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I was reading along, wondering why someone who went from 135 to 173 didn’t have his head screwed on straighter about the ins and outs of intelligent gaining, and then this. I’m surprised no one else was flabbergasted by it.
My working theory is that this amazing 38 pound gain happened from the ages of 17 to 19, i.e. through living normally and going from high school nerd to college dork…but wouldn’t all those evil endogenous pubescent hormones be as bad for him as cigarettes?
Anyway, just when you thought he was getting it, he lets us juice apologists (haven’t done any yet, sorry) know that he can allegedly do to a two inch concrete slab what we all thought of doing to his xiphoid process. I wonder if the UFC stud even knows where that is.
You know,you got me thinking. It’s hard not to see the conections between steroids and all these health problems. It’s too bad everybody else is in denial.
My only problem is your screen name and avatar. How can you possibly name yourself after a video game or claim to be a fan of any video game when video games are responsible for all the recent school shootings. They’re basically responsible for all forms of teen violence and you name youself after one. How disrespectful.
Good point malonetd!
Seriously Beast(ha), troll elsewhere.
I do not belive the game can pull an actual trigger. As parents, we are responsible to monitor what our children see and do, who they chill with.
I am by no means taking sides just pointing out that there is a lot of pointing fingers going on.[/quote]
Um, I do believe he was being sarcastic by way of comparison.
If any angry roid heads are still reading this can you answer me a question of Barry Bonds.
Do you think he is still using something illegal resembling steroids or hgh?
From looking at the plethora of articles on here about the ups and downs of Juice, it seems nearly everyone has a low(depressed mentally and physically) when they stop using. Yet this guy is going on 43 and still hitting better then the majority of the league.
Bonds doesn’t strike out. Never has. His ability to put the bat on the ball has always been his strong point - and he can still do it better than 99% of the hitters in MLB.
He is not hitting HR’s at near the rate he did several years ao, but is closer to his HR rate back in the early days.
I doubt very seriously that gear, or gh, or any other banned substance can take credit for his numbers this year.
But I could be wrong. I’d rather him be juicing and hitting 80 dingers a season, too.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Bonds doesn’t strike out. Never has. His ability to put the bat on the ball has always been his strong point - and he can still do it better than 99% of the hitters in MLB.
He is not hitting HR’s at near the rate he did several years ao, but is closer to his HR rate back in the early days.
I doubt very seriously that gear, or gh, or any other banned substance can take credit for his numbers this year.
But I could be wrong. I’d rather him be juicing and hitting 80 dingers a season, too. [/quote]
To be honest I don’t see what the argument with Barry’s steriod use is about, considering he is competing against other athletes who use. I’m sure there are a few pitchers who pitch faster because of steriod use so it all balances out in my eyes.
Besides that, I was thinking more of the fall off from quitting the juice. When I look at the discussion rooms and even in this discussion there are a posts that speak of the depressions from quitting. They made it seem as though Barry used a ton for over 5 years, I would think he would have a major fall off from quitting specially at 43. Maybe to the point of falling below what he had before the steroids.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Bonds doesn’t strike out. Never has. His ability to put the bat on the ball has always been his strong point - and he can still do it better than 99% of the hitters in MLB.
He is not hitting HR’s at near the rate he did several years ao, but is closer to his HR rate back in the early days.
I doubt very seriously that gear, or gh, or any other banned substance can take credit for his numbers this year.
But I could be wrong. I’d rather him be juicing and hitting 80 dingers a season, too. [/quote]
Not a Bonds fan but there is no question that with or without gear he is one of the best hitters ever.
I think he used gear and it helped him hit the ball further.
I also think he faced pitchers that used gear.
I don’t want too see him break Hank’s record, not because of steroid use but because Aaron seems like a good guy. Bonds seems like a jerk.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Not a Bonds fan but there is no question that with or without gear he is one of the best hitters ever.[/quote]
True.
True. To expound on this idea: Now that he’s built the muscle needed to hit the ball further, it doesn’t take AAS to maintain the physique he has. So, it is true that he does not need steroids to hit home runs today. Understand this. He did not deflate and lose what he gained during his AAS use. Get it?
Steroids do not make you stronger. They allow you to recover faster, allowing you to grow faster. (That was primarily for airtruth and that beast dude… not the regulars that know their ass from their face.)
True.
Oh, I really don’t care if he breaks any record. Baseball is more than Barry.
Steroids do not make you stronger. They allow you to recover faster, allowing you to grow faster. (That was primarily for airtruth and that beast dude… not the regulars that know their ass from their face.)
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I beg to differ. I can tell a huge jump in strength when on tren versus off. I can also tell a big difference when on deca.
I agree with the increased recovery, but at BB’s age, which is pretty close to mine - you do see a marked jump in strength.
Another point that needs to be made is that there seems to be an assumption that Bonds was juicing at IFBB levels. I just can’t see this being the case.
One time several years ago, my wife and I were in a bar with some friends. I had had WAY too much bourbon.
There was this drunk guy that had passed out sitting straight up in a chair near the pool table where we were playing pool. I mean the guy was out like a light, but was fat enough that he was like a weeble. He would wobble, but he would never fall down.
For some reason, I felt the urge to poke him with my cue stick. I was laughing my ass off poking this kid, and I was poking him pretty hard. I started chalking up my cue, and would poke him again. He had little blue chalk dots all over his shirt.
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I’m sure this was funny at the time, but it doesn’t seem like the right thing to do. Not too cool.