My Anti Steroid Rant

Pharma
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[quote]Altered Beast wrote:
stuff… [/quote]

You know,you got me thinking. It’s hard not to see the conections between steroids and all these health problems. It’s too bad everybody else is in denial.

My only problem is your screen name and avatar. How can you possibly name yourself after a video game or claim to be a fan of any video game when video games are responsible for all the recent school shootings. They’re basically responsible for all forms of teen violence and you name youself after one. How disrespectful.

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[quote]Altered Beast wrote:

More excuses. Yeah cocaine caused Titus to be incarcerated back in the 90s for steroid distribution. You can’t prove Peyton didn’t die of roids, it’s pretty obvious but not for people in denial. And once again dumbfucks the article came up in the most discussed topics and was titled anti-steroid. I never said I would use a myostatin inhibitor, learn to read instead of rage. Real Myostatin inhibitors, the ones created by the pharmaceutical companies cause the cardiac muscles and organs to grow as well, get a fucking clue, this is why people shrivel up after cycles, myostatin increases and stays high even after you get off the drugs.

You guys haven’t said shit except for insulting my weight, my lift, my name, and where I live. All I said was people aren’t shit without them. Which is true,Anorld wouldn’t be shit without his drugs none of you will make gains without your drugs either.

I’ll put a video up and then you bitches will say that’s not me. Now go pat each other on the butts and say how funny your bosu jokes were. Then cycle up and pop female fertility drugs and talk about how you’re Ron Jeremy in the bedroom, too bad you’ll be little man tate when you run out of drugs and money.

Thanks for the laughs.

See you tomorrow. [/quote]

You haven’t said shit either, little boy, except for calling all of us dumbfucks, saying we need to learn to read not rage, and proclaiming anyone who has used steroids is not shit without them. Can you provide one single peer reviewed article linking steroid use to any of the illnesses/deaths you claim were caused by steroids?

Guess what little guy, I did two cycles of juice back in 95, and I am willing to bet you can’t even come close to the gains in the photos in my profile, drug free 10+ years after juicing. The last pic was taken in February, I seriously doubt I need to take a recent pic to call bullshit on you.

Now if you will excuse me, My neighbor’s Hummer has a flat tire and my lifting assistance is needed.

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
Altered Beast wrote:
stuff…

You know,you got me thinking. It’s hard not to see the conections between steroids and all these health problems. It’s too bad everybody else is in denial.

My only problem is your screen name and avatar. How can you possibly name yourself after a video game or claim to be a fan of any video game when video games are responsible for all the recent school shootings. They’re basically responsible for all forms of teen violence and you name youself after one. How disrespectful.[/quote]

Yeah! That’s right! And, and… Everyone who has ever had cancer, heart problems, impotence, liver cirrhosis, renal damage, speech loss and/or committed a violent crime, they all drank WATER at some point in their lives, right? It’s the only thing they all have in common!

All you dumb people can keep deluding yourselves and blame other shit for those health problems, when it’s so clear water is the true culprit. Amazing how those scientists, researchers and doctors spent years looking at these things without twigging onto the true cause.

It’s the water. No fucking question. You junkies and water addicts stay in denial and drink all the water you want. I’ll stay well clear of water and be healthy, thank you very much.

Proof? Who needs proof? I say so, that’s all you need to know. I have to go offline now, the martians need me to help save their civilization.

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[quote]Altered Beast wrote:
Which is true,Arnold wouldn’t be shit without his drugs none of you will make gains without your drugs either.
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You know I am really getting sick of your lame ass shit. If you wanna make conclusions, make legitimate conclusions.

I’m sure it is the steroid use that made Arnold millions. You know he was an investor and businessman long before he even entered the movie business. I’m also sure it made him Governor of California. I’m absolutely sure his slogan during his campaign was “I’m a juicer, vote for me.”

Bodybuilding aside the man was an icon, for all people, and he nor us need you to use him to tell us steroids are bad.

Make legitimate statements from now on, please. You are dealing with a bunch of intelligent men here. Not idiots. Please treat us as such.

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[quote]HunterKiller wrote:
steroids are like cigarettes

I didn’t want to hijack a thread so I started my own.

Isn’t steroid use a bit like smoking? I mean look at people who get to be 50 and have used steroids. Heart problems are the number one killer of Americans. Also they say exercise is the number one way to prevent that. Isn’t this counter productive.

I wont blindly say steroids are dangerous, just like smoking, moderation is the best way to do this. It is also the best way not to have a problem in the future from it.

Also steroids are illegal, I don’t think they should be. I also don’t think pot should be illegal either. But jail sucks, and prison sucks worse. Also nothing would be worse then crashing off a cycle and being weak and testosteroneless when your surrounded by people who could be murders and rapists.

Final note, we all want to be buff like Arnold it was all of our dreams since childed hood, but I would rather be buff like me then have my chest sawed open, my heart stops and my blood be pumped by a machine to have bi-pass surgery ever.

End Rant. [/quote]

How about you get past being 173 lbs. at 6’1? Then you’ll have something to say about being “buff like me.” Tool.

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[quote]Altered Beast wrote:
Take a look at Craig Titus (in jail)[/quote]
This isn’t germane to the topic at hand, which is the health reprecussions for which steroids are allegedly responsible.

Err…I’d like to see how much time you have to lift weights with the dedication that he had (36 hours/week) when you’re the governor of the richest state in the union.

That heart condition was a hereditary trait. Arnold was born with it as well. I know you “hate steroid users (with a jealous streak)” but I’m sure you don’t think Arnold was juicing at the age of 2 months old (do you?)

No, no! You had me at “I deadlift 3.5x bodyweight, but I won’t show videos or pics!”

WTF? I hope you realize that some people are just plain ugly. It happens. My roommates girlfriend looks downright haggard – not that there’s anything wrong with that.

His football performance and legacy are superhuman – bad example for a case AGAINST steroids.

That’s “Mentzer” – and he had a long battle with amphetamine addiction. Meth kills.

There has been NO research that indicates a correlation between brain cancer (Alzado’s killer) and steroid use. Alzado said that steroids caused his ailment. He had no evidence to support this and he knew nothing of the medical discipline – this was really just his own guilt lending itself to a gut feeling that karmic retribution was taking its toll on him.

You’re just making shit up.
Too bad your intellect is just as welterweight as your spindly ass. If you’d been a bit more of a heavyweight, it wouldn’t have been so maddeningly easy to KO your dumb ass. Fuckin’ trolls.

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[quote]MrZsasz wrote:
Well, I’m not going to be baited into any sort of discussion here. I’ll only take the time to point out the error in your premise.

Steroids are not like cigarettes. Your analogy is faulty and, therefore, so are the conclusions your draw from it.

Cigarettes are without health benefits, period. Steroids have a myriad of benefits and medical applications, albeit with potential risks. On the other hand, cigarettes have actual risks with no benefits, besides making you look cool, of course.

And that’s all I have to say about that…

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DITTO

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Let a doctor that knows his stuff teach you. Contact palm beach life extention. Open a old school way of thinking and look for proof.

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Let us not forget the HBO special on steroidss. Hmmmmmm? Give you somthing to think about yet?

There is no proof that steroids are the root of these problems. You belive what your mother told you about them and go on breathing in this ever so clean air. Eat all that meat and drink all that milk, eat that produce. Ever think how they are able to produce enough of this stuff. Hmmmmmm? Maybe just a little help growing?

You do not think that we injest it in our everyday diet? Drive your car, cross the street, go to the movies. I would say these things are probably more dangerous for you.

That is ok I am not trying to get you to partake. I simply belive if you are going to make a statement. DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

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[quote]Altered Beast wrote:
rainjack wrote:

Titus was a coke head.

Peyton never took steroids - if he did, prove it.

Conseco was an unintelligible idiot the first day he put on a baseball uniform.

Romanowski is a dick.

Do you have proof that steroids caused any of these things - or are you TiVoing Oprah again?

How about that myostatin again? I noticed you completely glossed over the fact that you are a screaming hypocrite.

I wonder why that is?

Oh yeah - you are too busy trying to make up how much you can DL.

More excuses. Yeah cocaine caused Titus to be incarcerated back in the 90s for steroid distribution. You can’t prove Peyton didn’t die of roids, it’s pretty obvious but not for people in denial. And once again dumbfucks the article came up in the most discussed topics and was titled anti-steroid. I never said I would use a myostatin inhibitor, learn to read instead of rage. Real Myostatin inhibitors, the ones created by the pharmaceutical companies cause the cardiac muscles and organs to grow as well, get a fucking clue, this is why people shrivel up after cycles, myostatin increases and stays high even after you get off the drugs.

You guys haven’t said shit except for insulting my weight, my lift, my name, and where I live. All I said was people aren’t shit without them. Which is true,Arnold wouldn’t be shit without his drugs none of you will make gains without your drugs either.

I’ll put a video up and then you bitches will say that’s not me. Now go pat each other on the butts and say how funny your bosu jokes were. Then cycle up and pop female fertility drugs and talk about how you’re Ron Jeremy in the bedroom, too bad you’ll be little man tate when you run out of drugs and money.

Thanks for the laughs.

See you tomorrow. [/quote]

I knew Titus, and his dumbass bitch Kelly, and they were on meth really bad, and so was the ho they burned. As far has his incarceration, it was for getting caught with 30,000 tabs of exstacy, not 'roid distribution. Know your facts, fuck. And he was also on the coke, GHB, and all the other “party” drugs through the years.

And as far as my screen name, I thought it was funny myself, due to the fact that it is totally contradictory, but good line Airhead. You were SO funny there, you almost made DC laugh, but I’m sure he didn’t because of the way 'roids make one pissed off all the time.

I have to agree with the dude that says it’s the water! I know after a gallon, I could kill someone because of waking up thru the night pissing! Obviously, it’s the water! I gotta get off that stuff, and drink me some Mountain Dew!

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and my friend/co-worker who lost custody of his kid and started losing the skin off his face due to his equipoise abuse.

Wow, at least I don’t have a kid to be taken, but now I don’t wanna take this Equipoise! Thanx little guy, you saved my pretty face! Just like you save all those outer space guys with your, uh, joystick!

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
Altered Beast wrote:
stuff…

You know,you got me thinking. It’s hard not to see the conections between steroids and all these health problems. It’s too bad everybody else is in denial.

My only problem is your screen name and avatar. How can you possibly name yourself after a video game or claim to be a fan of any video game when video games are responsible for all the recent school shootings. They’re basically responsible for all forms of teen violence and you name youself after one. How disrespectful.[/quote]

Good point malonetd!

Seriously Beast(ha), troll elsewhere.

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[quote]MrZsasz wrote:
Well, I’m not going to be baited into any sort of discussion here. I’ll only take the time to point out the error in your premise.

Steroids are not like cigarettes. Your analogy is faulty and, therefore, so are the conclusions your draw from it.

Cigarettes are without health benefits, period. Steroids have a myriad of benefits and medical applications, albeit with potential risks. On the other hand, cigarettes have actual risks with no benefits, besides making you look cool, of course.

And that’s all I have to say about that…

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not exactly. cigarettes are a proven neural stimulant. people on cigarettes and other forms of tobacco tend to get alot of shit done. history is literally overflowing with great contributions from ass-kickers who smoked.

not that the world’s great achievers wouldn’t be above the hoi polloi anyway, but i have to believe that, like great athletes using steroids, they’re able to handle higher workloads and take it further than they would without the aid of nicotine.

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[quote]Altered Beast wrote:
Arnold wouldn’t be shit without his drugs [/quote]

Hell yeah, if drugs could me make the worlds most famous actor, a millionaire and governor, well then sign me up! Or maybe I should not take them and instead be pathetic, angry, play with monster dolls and call myself ALTERED BEAST…

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Not sure if “altered beast” will drop this thread; although we all know hes wimpering like a little bitch when he reads RJ and these guys crush him. Kinda funny to see morons try to bash responsible steroid use. Oh i must have forgot… any steroid use is NOT responsible. “At least thats what my health teacher told me”. Hah

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Are you guys really having fun or what?

This thread should have died a long time ago.

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[quote]KSman wrote:
Are you guys really having fun or what?

This thread should have died a long time ago.[/quote]

One time several years ago, my wife and I were in a bar with some friends. I had had WAY too much bourbon.

There was this drunk guy that had passed out sitting straight up in a chair near the pool table where we were playing pool. I mean the guy was out like a light, but was fat enough that he was like a weeble. He would wobble, but he would never fall down.

For some reason, I felt the urge to poke him with my cue stick. I was laughing my ass off poking this kid, and I was poking him pretty hard. I started chalking up my cue, and would poke him again. He had little blue chalk dots all over his shirt.

This thread is kinda like poking a drunk who is passed out sitting straight up with a chalked up cue stick.

Only instead of a passed out drunk - we have a 19 year-old welter weight that can pull 595, or something.

But make no mistake - he is just as clueless as the drunk.

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o.k. can we quit indulging this troll now or maybe we can all find a scrawny video game geek forum and waste HIS time on that enough already!!!

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[quote]Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
HunterKiller wrote:
steroids are like cigarettes

I didn’t want to hijack a thread so I started my own.

Isn’t steroid use a bit like smoking? I mean look at people who get to be 50 and have used steroids. Heart problems are the number one killer of Americans. Also they say exercise is the number one way to prevent that. Isn’t this counter productive.

I wont blindly say steroids are dangerous, just like smoking, moderation is the best way to do this. It is also the best way not to have a problem in the future from it.

Also steroids are illegal, I don’t think they should be. I also don’t think pot should be illegal either. But jail sucks, and prison sucks worse. Also nothing would be worse then crashing off a cycle and being weak and testosteroneless when your surrounded by people who could be murders and rapists.

Final note, we all want to be buff like Arnold it was all of our dreams since childed hood, but I would rather be buff like me then have my chest sawed open, my heart stops and my blood be pumped by a machine to have bi-pass surgery ever.

End Rant.

How about you get past being 173 lbs. at 6’1? Then you’ll have something to say about being “buff like me.” Tool.[/quote]

Listen up, I all ready addmited I didn’t known what I was talking about, and politely thanked people for pointing me in the right direction. Read the whole thread next time.

So what if I’m 173. I use to be 135, yes at 6’1". I bust my ass harder then anyone else Iv seen. I never said I was buff, I’m not even cut. I started off weak as hell, I had to work to be average. I have taken all of my lifts and multiplied them almost 3 times over. I was born with shit, theres no natural skill here, only will power and devotion. I don’t give a FUUUUCK about what you think of how much a weigh.

You break two inches of cement with your fist then talk to me about body weight.

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hello fellas

First off,english are not my primary language so im going to do my best to be readable.

Taking drugs or not are a question of values.Im proud to have 5 years of training without use of drugs excepting a cycle of UNIVERSAL ANIMAL TEST.Excepting acne and a bad mood,i got nothing from it.I was young and
stupid.Things have changed then

im a weltherweight and proud to be.I really cant understand why a guy want to be super huge.Take a look on ronnie
coleman,he can be compared to a mutant…he’s gross.He’s so huge that im sure he need special clothes just for him.I noticed guys here who rants about lightweights or weltherweights but man,i prefer to attract girls.

i challenge a heavyweight vs a weltherweight to see how many girls they are going to attract in a club.The smaller but more naturally trained guy are going to win high time.

It depend of what type of goal you want to reach.For me,a shape like a healthy young jean claude van damme are
my goal.If you guys want to be like jay cuttler…well go for it but one thing need to be said,you will never be like him and i think its nice like that.

On steroids and HGH,you have the illusion of being strong but in reality your are strong because you are on juice.And the sad part is when you gonna stop taking it definitively,you are not going to be motivated to continue to train naturally due the fact that your not going to have the positive thing of it.
thats why i will not take them.

Being a poser are not in my values and
don’t worry,poeple can notice if you are on juice or not.Sure its a your choice to take them but put in your mind thats its not hot to be huge.We are not in the 80’s.

I prefer to train hard but not extremely and have other interestings thing to do in life instead of looking myself in a mirror all day long and being sad because i’m not satisfied about my physique.

TO EACH HIS OWN!!