Occupation 101: Gaza’s Reality
Who are the victims trying to survive?
The aftermath of the “Israeli victims” using their hightech weaponry.
http://www.uruknet.de/?s1=1&p=32995&s2=20
Footage of Israeli victims “defending themselves” using American weapons.
More footage of what the blood-thirsty Israelis do when someone stands up to them.
I apologize for not feeling an ounce of sympathy for the poor, defenseless, psychotic Israelis.
Dustin
[quote]Dustin wrote:
I apologize for not feeling an ounce of sympathy for the poor, defenseless, psychotic Israelis.
Dustin
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Point taken. But why would you feel sympathy for people who target civilians and do things like blow up busses? These people you sympathize with?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Who says Allah wants the Jews out of Israel?[/quote]
Hamas and a number of other Islamic Jihadis.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
Occupation 101: Gaza’s Reality
Who are the victims trying to survive?
The aftermath of the “Israeli victims” using their hightech weaponry.
http://www.uruknet.de/?s1=1&p=32995&s2=20
Footage of Israeli victims “defending themselves” using American weapons.
More footage of what the blood-thirsty Israelis do when someone stands up to them.
I apologize for not feeling an ounce of sympathy for the poor, defenseless, psychotic Israelis.
Dustin
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[quote]Dustin wrote:
Occupation 101: Gaza’s Reality
Who are the victims trying to survive?
The aftermath of the “Israeli victims” using their hightech weaponry.
http://www.uruknet.de/?s1=1&p=32995&s2=20
Footage of Israeli victims “defending themselves” using American weapons.
More footage of what the blood-thirsty Israelis do when someone stands up to them.
I apologize for not feeling an ounce of sympathy for the poor, defenseless, psychotic Israelis.
Dustin
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Are you serious? Don’t follow Lixy’s example of bias,please! Its sad that innocent lives are lost…but how is that in your eyes only innocent Muslim and Arab lives have been lost and no innocent Israeli lives? That just shows ignorance on your part. Why does Israel even have to take the stance it has against its neighbors? I know its holy land,but why are Muslims and Arabs wasting energy obsessing over such a small land when they already occupy so much? Is greed,obsession a sin in Islam?? I’m just curious.
Hmmm…you’re surrounded by neighbors whom are basically trying to make you disappear since the day you first existed…do you sit there and take it in the ass? You’re corned by a group of guys who not just want to rough you up,but kill your ass…are you gonna throw the first strike to give yourself a chance…or are you just gonna offer to suck their dicks and die anyways?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
90% of Sederot’s population are from Morocco.
It’s common knowledge that Hezbollah’s rockets kill and disturb only Arabs and Muslims.
Don’t be fooled and turn this into “Muslims against Jews”. It’s got nothing to do with it. It’s a people with no perpective for the future, jailed in an open-air prison that want to make their voices heard. I agree that it’s not the best possible way, but what else can they do? The UN passed resolution after resolution which Israel (hiding behind the US) is yet to comply with.
I’m listening.
Jailed by whom? They are not accepted by the Arab world and the Israelis cannot trust them because of the many, many, many acts of terrorism.
The only solution for them is to cut the horseshit. Renounce terrorism and then the world can bring pressure on Israel to improve their lot.
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Exactly. Like we did when Arafat renounced terrorism and the world brought pressure on Israel . . .
Oops, never mind.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Exactly. Like we did when Arafat renounced terrorism and [/quote]
And Fatah’s Islamic Jihad carried out bombings against Israel and Arafat sanctioned the intifada… . . .
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Are you serious? Don’t follow Lixy’s example of bias,please! Its sad that innocent lives are lost…but how is that in your eyes only innocent Muslim and Arab lives have been lost and no innocent Israeli lives?
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Innocents on both sides of the aisle are being killed and its horrible anyway you look at it. I’m baffled, however, at people who always want to blame the Palestinians, make them out to be the blood-thirsty savages, and the Israelis the poor, defenseless victims who just want to live in peace. That’s bullshit and couldn’t be further from the truth.
The American media is downright horrible in reporting the conflict. It’s because of this, that we see the almost fanatical support of the Israelis in America.
Why do Israel’s neighbors take the stance that they do? There is reason that the Palestinians go so far as to blow themselves up to kill Israelis.
My ignorance? Please take some time and look at foreign and independent news sources to get accurate reporting of this conflict.
The only people “taking it in the ass”, as you claim, are the Palestinians living their Warsaw-like ghettos in the Occupied Territories.
Dustin
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Dustin wrote:
I apologize for not feeling an ounce of sympathy for the poor, defenseless, psychotic Israelis.
Dustin
Point taken. But why would you feel sympathy for people who target civilians and do things like blow up busses? These people you sympathize with?[/quote]
No, I don’t. I sympathize with Palestinians who are treated like animals.
And the Israelis don’t target civilians? Did you watch any of the videos I provided. Is it because the Israelis use tanks and high-tech missiles that make their behavior legitimate?
Dustin
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
The situation in Palestine is FUBAR because the UN practically hand fed the locals, forcing millions and millions of dollars and food supplies down their throat.
Demographics hardly lie and a poor palestine women being able to raise nine children instead of three are a way to ensure there will be some form of conflict. Give the youngsters a custom made, violent BS religion that tells you their divine arch enemy is right next door and nothing can go wrong anymore.
Artificially sponsoring a youth bulge through subsidizing and charity is probably the most surreal thing western civilization has done so far.
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Schwarzfahrer:
I hardly ever agree with you but your post was very accurate.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Are you serious? Don’t follow Lixy’s example of bias,please! Its sad that innocent lives are lost…but how is that in your eyes only innocent Muslim and Arab lives have been lost and no innocent Israeli lives?
Innocents on both sides of the aisle are being killed and its horrible anyway you look at it. I’m baffled, however, at people who always want to blame the Palestinians, make them out to be the blood-thirsty savages, and the Israelis the poor, defenseless victims who just want to live in peace. That’s bullshit and couldn’t be further from the truth.
The American media is downright horrible in reporting the conflict. It’s because of this, that we see the almost fanatical support of the Israelis in America.
That just shows ignorance on your part. Why does Israel even have to take the stance it has against its neighbors?
Why do Israel’s neighbors take the stance that they do? There is reason that the Palestinians go so far as to blow themselves up to kill Israelis.
My ignorance? Please take some time and look at foreign and independent news sources to get accurate reporting of this conflict.
The only people “taking it in the ass”, as you claim, are the Palestinians living their Warsaw-like ghettos in the Occupied Territories.
Dustin
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I don’t get how foreign and independent news sources are the standard for accurate news…how do we know if any news is accurate?
Not every American supports Israel but you’ve made your WEAK case for die-hard belief of Israel as a terrorist state…obviously,you need to open both eyes before you start condemning actions. I’m sure they could of dealt with some things better…but you can say that for every country…in the end it doesn’t matter…all nations will come to rise against Israel…and be defeated anyways.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Dustin wrote:
I apologize for not feeling an ounce of sympathy for the poor, defenseless, psychotic Israelis.
Dustin
Point taken. But why would you feel sympathy for people who target civilians and do things like blow up busses? These people you sympathize with?
No, I don’t. I sympathize with Palestinians who are treated like animals.
And the Israelis don’t target civilians? Did you watch any of the videos I provided. Is it because the Israelis use tanks and high-tech missiles that make their behavior legitimate?
Dustin[/quote]
Maybe you should make your stance more clear. You come on here just blatantly defending the “poor” Palestinians and condemning Israel. Innocent people should never die from either side. So what if you have videos?? You’re using the same tactics as the “misinforming” American media. Ironic.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
The only people “taking it in the ass”, as you claim, are the Palestinians living their Warsaw-like ghettos in the Occupied Territories.
Dustin
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Believe it or not, when I was younger, I believed the same as you. I would have agreed with what you have written above.
Then, I saw how the Palestinians began a wave of suicide attacks against totally civilian targets and it changed my mind. I could not sympathize with a people who deliberately target civilians as a form of war. I began to see that the Palestinians weren’t any more morally correct then the Israelis who they claimed were supressing them.
And don’t tell me they are so downtrodden that it’s the only way they can fight. Why not attack military targets?
[quote]Dustin wrote:
And the Israelis don’t target civilians? Did you watch any of the videos I provided. Is it because the Israelis use tanks and high-tech missiles that make their behavior legitimate?
Dustin[/quote]
I did not watch the videos. I will now.
When was the last time they carpet bombed a crowded street full of protesters or fired a rocket into a house totally at random? Do you have video of that?
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
…in the end it doesn’t matter…all nations will come to rise against Israel…and be defeated anyways.[/quote]
Are you talking Biblical here?
I watched the Youtube video because my Quicktime doesn’t work quite right for some reason. Hey, those posts after the video were priceless, did you happen to read any of those?
To quote Big_Boss:
“So what if you have videos?? You’re using the same tactics as the “misinforming” American media. Ironic.”
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
I don’t get how foreign and independent news sources are the standard for accurate news…how do we know if any news is accurate?
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Independent news sources don’t have to worry about upsetting the interests of their advertisers because they don’t have any. How many Arab advertisers to you see in the main stream media?
The main stream media consists of corporations out to make profit. It is not good for business to accurately portray the Israelis using armaments to kill Palestinians made by U.S. corporations and arms manufacturers. Those video I showed previously are never shown in MSM, and if they are, they aren’t put into context.
The MSM is rather pathetic, in general, at framing U.S. foreign policy accurately. The first Gulf War is a prime example. The U.S. government supported Saddam Hussein throughout the 1980s right up until the Iraqi Army invaded Kuwait. In fact, Hussein gave the order for the invasion because the U.S. was vague on what it would do if Iraq went on with the invasion. Our government didn’t seem to give a damn about Saddam’s atrocities at all during the 1980s. Of course, once Iraq invaded Kuwait Saddam was a monster overnight. After the war was over Saddam was allowed to stay in power and once again was allowed to crush insurrection and torture his people while the U.S. government did nothing to help these groups overthrow Saddam.
So, at least with Independent or foreign news sources there isn’t a corporate bias.
Dustin
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
When was the last time they carpet bombed a crowded street full of protesters or fired a rocket into a house totally at random? Do you have video of that?[/quote]
Well, it wasn’t U.S. manufactured missiles fired at this group of women protesting. Instead, the Israel’s used them for target practice. The “official” line was that it was an Israeli operation to root out terrorists, or something.
http://globalresearch.ca/audiovideo/Gaza_women_shot.WMV
Dustin
[quote]Dustin wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/audiovideo/Gaza_women_shot.WMV
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Interesting to note that all of the sound was dubbed in. There were “shots” being fired and no one even reacted. Then they cut to a scene of women carrying another woman down the street. Cut to some ambulances, and shots were still being fired. Would the Israelis be firing after ambulances showed up?
Then they show a woman, basically on a board being loaded into a van. No gurney, no I.V. primitive parametics to say the least. No sign of any shrapnel or dirt flying as would be apparent in a real shooting. No sign of any Israeli army or snipers in the video.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Dustin wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/audiovideo/Gaza_women_shot.WMV
Interesting to note that all of the sound was dubbed in. There were “shots” being fired and no one even reacted. Then they cut to a scene of women carrying another woman down the street. Cut to some ambulances, and shots were still being fired. Would the Israelis be firing after ambulances showed up?
Then they show a woman, basically on a board being loaded into a van. No gurney, no I.V. primitive parametics to say the least. No sign of any shrapnel or dirt flying as would be apparent in a real shooting. No sign of any Israeli army or snipers in the video.[/quote]
Your right, its all faked. Actually, it was some of my Army buddies, no my whole battery got together a few weeks ago and made this video. I then submitted it to globalresearch, a well known and respected information database. They then, without reviewing it, posted on the their website so millions of people around the world could watch it.
I’m really not sure what video you were watching. The sound wasn’t dubbed in. I saw plenty of the women fleeing from the shots (about 50 seconds in to the clip). There is even a replay shown of the individual getting picked off by the sniper. A medic isn’t going to take the time to start an IV while he’s getting shot at. It’s not like they were combat medics.
For you to be able to see the snipers would sort of eliminate their purpose, since your not supposed to see them.
But yeah, it was fake.
Dustin