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So, the single most anabolic event in the average person’s life muscular or otherwise isn’t important to bodybuilding? interesting.[/quote]
If a teenager were to lift correctly for size during this time period, they would probably make some of their best gains in the shortest period of time. Have you believed that we have been saying otherwise on this forum? That is nearly all I talk about. Instead of 16 year olds logging in asking about how to bring out their abs on a 130lbs frame, the goal is to get them to realize how their body is working and take advantage of any growth spurts. I am very glad I did so right as I was going through my own last real growth spurt. However, does bodybuilding hinge only on those who are growing in height? NO, it doesn’t, so why are you focusing only on puberty?
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Some kid who weighs 70lbs in the 4th grade grows up to be a 150lbs skinny guy in high school.
Once again, you’re distorting what I said. You’re talking total mass, I was talking muscle mass.[/quote]
That is not a distortion of what you said. It is attempting to get you to realize that the bulk of that lean body mass gain in a growing teenager is NOT muscle mass.
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I’m not trying to draw a correlation although I’m sure there are those that do with much success. I’m merely saying that the weights you lift are far from the single determining factor in your muscular growth success, a fact to which you’ve agreed.[/quote]
I truly hope that most people who aren’t rank beginners on this site do understand this already.
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What about ROM? I’m sure someone asking about sports practice in favor of hypertrophy has other priorities on their mind than just weights. Apparently you can’t see that.[/quote]
Your point? Again, they would probably get more benefit by saving stretching for AFTER training or even on off days. Why would a trainer’s ROM be negatively effected by not stretching right before lifting? Are you about to go into the myth of bulky muscles being detrimental to sports performance? I would rather a trainer stretch DURING lifting than right before due to the possible effect on strength.
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You have more than proven my point that genes, ribosomes, tRNA, and hormones determine your success and that stretch has been shown to adequately stimulate these mechanisms, and while stretching isn’t the total answer, neither is weights. I still await your response to “my” assertions about Starling’s Law.[/quote]
What “assertions”? His work wasn’t supporting hypertrophy of skeletal muscle. Beyond that, again, stretching will not produce muscle growth by itself. Are you still claiming it does? You are majoring on the minors and I still don’t understand why. I am sure everyone understands that weight lifting alone is just one factor in the equation for muscle growth. However, focusing on ribosomal response to stretching which does not show any significant muscle growth in mature adults is like being unnaturally focused on whether 1,999mg of Vitamin C is less healthy than 2,000mg of Vitamin C. The real question is, who the hell is getting big just by stretching to the point that this needs to be a major focus? I don’t stretch much at all. I’m big. No, I don’t think I missed out on much. Why is stretching such a huge deal to you?
In fact, I do believe that fascial stretching can aid in muscle growth due to the possibly of stretching the sarcoplasimic “bag” surrounding muscle tissue. It is one reason I believe in bulking up and is something I have believed since I was a first year biology major. It is not because of a belief that stretching releases so much growth hormone that simply mechanically stretching a muscle will produce any growth at all.