Forget About Heavy Weights To Gain Muscle

I guarantee you that whatever workout routine you’re currently using to gain weight and build muscle mass is causing you to focus on “getting stronger”…instead of “getting physically bigger”.

This is where the whole �¢??lift big to get big�¢?? philosophy comes from.

Most have us have been fooled to associate the lifting of heavy weights with the building and stimulating of large muscles.

But is that the case in the �¢??real world�¢??�¢?�¦.as I like to call it?

The simple answer�¢? NO.

There are many, many reasons for this.

In this article Iâ??ll discuss the first reason why not:

  1. Lifting heavier and heavier weight is not the main factor in stimulating muscle weight gain and growth

I know, this seems to go against what everyone and their mama seem to think.

But, letâ??s take a look at what goes on in the real world.

How many individuals do you know (and perhaps youâ??re one of them) that can bench press a ton, yet when they take their shirt off donâ??t have that much of a chest to show off?

How many weight lifters do you know that can squat a car, yet when you take a look at their thighs / quads it leaves much to be desired?

How many bodybuilders have you seen that are as strong as an ox, yet if it wasnâ??t that youâ??ve seen them lifting weights at the gym or know them personally you would have never

guessed that they even work out?

Again, yes, they may lift progressively heavier weights every week, and yes, they may be getting stronger and stronger consistentlyâ?¦â?¦but that doesnâ??t mean that they are growing in size and muscular weight!

Every article and workout program recommends to â??progressively overload the muscleâ??â?¦.which is absolutely correct.

However, the type of â??progressive overloadâ?? that is recommended in 99% of these workout routines is to lift heavier and heavier weightâ?¦â?¦.focusing on the strength building aspect of the equationâ?¦â?¦instead of the size building aspect.

Lifting heavier weights is not the main stimulus for building and developing muscle mass.

(In future articles Iâ??ll get into the other factors that trigger muscular growth).

Think about it, if lifting heavier and heavier weight on a progressive basis was the way to gain muscle mass then powerlifters and Olympic lifters would have the largest and most developed muscles, not bodybuilders.

All you have to do is take a quick look at the pec development of a bodybuilder and compare it to the pec development of a powerlifter / Olympic lifter.

Sure, the powerlifter / Olympic trainer can probably bench press literally hundreds of pounds more than the bodybuilder, but the bodybuilder will always have a physically larger and more developed chest.

Thatâ??s because powerlifters / Olympic trainers are focused on the lifting of heavier weight, regardless of how the muscle feels, while the bodybuilder could care less about how much weight he / she can lift, but instead is focusing on the feel of the muscle, the tension thatâ??s placed on it.

Sure, a powerlifter may weigh 100 pounds more than a bodybuilder, but we all know that half of a powerlifterâ??s body weight is fat.

Also, many of the most well developed physiques are of individuals who hardly ever increase the amount of weight they lift, at least not on a regular basis.

Yet, they built and gained some serious muscle mass and weight.

Thatâ??s because they knew that there are other more important factors in stimulating muscular development than lifting progressively heavier weights.

PART2

In the previous article of this series, “Forget About Heavy Weights To Gain Muscle and Weight”, I had mentioned that the first reason why you should not be focusing on trying to lift heavier and heavier weights on a regular basis is because when you take a look at what goes on in the real world, those that concentrate on that aspect of weight training may get stronger with that method but not necessarily bigger in muscular size.

In this article we�¢??ll be going deeper as to why not to build your workout routine around getting stronger if you main goal is to gain weight and muscle mass.

Reason # 2: The lifting of heavier and heavier weight is not the signal to your body to make the muscle larger in size.

Every bodybuilding article and website still believes in the myth that your body adapts to the lifting of heavier weights by making the muscle larger.

Well, that�¢??s not the case in the real world.

Here�¢??s the reality of the situation:

When your body senses that a particular muscle is being forced to lift a progressively heavier weight, the signal that it sends is for the body to become stronger�¢?�¦.not bigger.

A muscle doesn�¢??t have to be bigger in size to handle heavier weight!

(Read that last sentence over and over until you fully grasp this concept.)

It just has to be stronger.

What does the body then do to adapt to the heavier weight if it isn�¢??t to make it bigger?

Realize that the lifting of heavier weights is a matter of your body becoming more efficient at recruiting more motor units to come into play to handle the heavier weight�¢?�¦which has nothing to do with becoming physically larger.

It is also a matter of becoming better at using leverage in your lifting technique�¢?�¦which has nothing to do with making the muscle grow.

It is also a matter of your neuro-muscular system becoming better at sending nerve signals between the muscle and brain to handle heavier loads�¢?�¦which has nothing to do with stimulating muscle mass.

�¢?�¦and on and on.

Do you see the point I�¢??m trying to make here.

A muscle being able to handle heavier and heavier weight really doesn�¢??t have much to do with making the muscle physically larger in size and appearance.

Again, I�¢??ll refer back to the real world example of bodybuilders versus powerlifters / Olympic trainers.

Powerlifters have their bodies trained so that they are very efficient at using leverage in their lifting techniques, recruiting a maximum amount of motor units, and establishing excellent neuro-muscular connections / pathways�¢?�¦all which allow them to lift extreme amounts of weights.

However, their muscular development is nowhere near that of a bodybuilder.

Although the bodybuilder probably can�¢??t lift not even half of the amount of weight that a powerlifter can, he has muscles that are much bigger in size and development.

That�¢??s because a bodybuilder could probably care less about using leverage, recruiting motor units. etc.

He�¢??s just trying to gain weight and build muscle mass.

PART3

In the last article I wrote about this topic, I detailed the second reason why the lifting of heavier and heavier weight is not the signal to your body to gain weight and muscle mass. In this article, we’ll discuss the third reason why not.

There�¢??s a big myth that has been spread around for years that claims that you must lift heavy weights (which would cause you to fail in the 6-10 rep range in any particular set) in order to target the muscle fibers that are most responsible for size.

I�¢??m not going to get into detail about all of the different fiber types, their colors, their classifications, etc., because in the �¢??real world�¢?? that�¢??s not important. All we need to know is that when it comes to muscle fibers, there are basically 3 types. Some are stronger than others. Some are larger. Some come into play in a set quicker. Some come later. Some fatigue faster. So on and so forth.

Here�¢??s the point�¢?�¦one of those types of fibers are the ones that have the greatest potential for growth (although that�¢??s not agreed upon by everyone). Many workout programs and routines that recommend to use a heavier load claim that you must do that in order to target the bigger muscle fibers.

This is one of the reasons where the whole �¢??lift big to get big�¢??, �¢??lift heavy for mass�¢??, etc., sayings originate from.

On the other hand, many feel that lighter weights with higher reps mainly target the �¢??smaller, endurance-oriented�¢?? fibers, which have given birth to the �¢??high reps and lower weights are only good for endurance, but not for mass�¢?? myth.

Well, here�¢??s where there�¢??s a misconception:

Sure, you may have certain fibers that come into play quicker if you use heavier weights, but if a set is stopped after just a few reps, those are going to be the only fibers that would have been worked.

You would have left a ton of other fibers untouched.

That�¢??s why you can have a muscle that is very strong, yet not be any bigger in size or development.

On the flip side, when a set is long enough, in other words, high in reps, sure, the smaller sized fibers may be called in first, but once those give out�¢?�¦.guess who then has to come into the rescue?

All the other fibers that are left!

That�¢??s why those that use slightly lighter weights for a ton of reps have gained more muscle mass than the individual next to them that�¢??s as strong as an ox, but doesn�¢??t even look like he lifts weights.

Take a look at all of these prisoners that don�¢??t have access to weights. Those individuals do nothing but �¢??body weight�¢?? exercises, like pushups, dips, pullups, etc. They do a boat load of reps�¢?�¦.sometimes hundreds of reps in a workout for a given muscle group. Yet, look at how much muscle and weight they gain.

Then you have people who follow your typical workout routines in their gyms, doing sets of 6-10 reps, taking 2 minutes of rest between sets�¢?�¦then a year later they look at themselves in the mirror, don�¢??t look any different, and then wonder why.

Again, the point of this article is this:

If you use heavy weights (that cause you to fail at 10 reps or less per set), you are only going to tap into a small percentage of all the available fibers you have in that muscle.

Meaning, your growth and development will be minimal, at best. Sure, you�¢??ll be strong, but you won�¢??t physically look like it. However, using slightly lighter weight for a high amount of reps force most available fibers to have to work, whether they be type 1, 2, or 3.

Obviously, the higher the amount of total fibers you train and force to work, the more weight gain and muscle mass you will stimulate.

There are many, many reasons for this.

In this article I�¢??ll discuss the first reason why not:

  1. Lifting heavier and heavier weight is not the main factor in stimulating muscle weight gain and growth

I know, this seems to go against what everyone and their mama seem to think.

But, let�¢??s take a look at what goes on in the real world.

How many individuals do you know (and perhaps you�¢??re one of them) that can bench press a ton, yet when they take their shirt off don�¢??t have that much of a chest to show off?

How many weight lifters do you know that can squat a car, yet when you take a look at their thighs / quads it leaves much to be desired?

How many bodybuilders have you seen that are as strong as an ox, yet if it wasn�¢??t that you�¢??ve seen them lifting weights at the gym or know them personally you would have never

guessed that they even work out?

Again, yes, they may lift progressively heavier weights every week, and yes, they may be getting stronger and stronger consistently�¢?�¦�¢?�¦but that doesn�¢??t mean that they are growing in size and muscular weight!

Every article and workout program recommends to �¢??progressively overload the muscle�¢??�¢?�¦.which is absolutely correct.

However, the type of �¢??progressive overload�¢?? that is recommended in 99% of these workout routines is to lift heavier and heavier weight�¢?�¦�¢?�¦.focusing on the strength building aspect of the equation�¢?�¦�¢?�¦instead of the size building aspect.

Lifting heavier weights is not the main stimulus for building and developing muscle mass.

(In future articles I�¢??ll get into the other factors that trigger muscular growth).

Think about it, if lifting heavier and heavier weight on a progressive basis was the way to gain muscle mass then powerlifters and Olympic lifters would have the largest and most developed muscles, not bodybuilders.

All you have to do is take a quick look at the pec development of a bodybuilder and compare it to the pec development of a powerlifter / Olympic lifter.

Sure, the powerlifter / Olympic trainer can probably bench press literally hundreds of pounds more than the bodybuilder, but the bodybuilder will always have a physically larger and more developed chest.

That�¢??s because powerlifters / Olympic trainers are focused on the lifting of heavier weight, regardless of how the muscle feels, while the bodybuilder could care less about how much weight he / she can lift, but instead is focusing on the feel of the muscle, the tension that�¢??s placed on it.

Sure, a powerlifter may weigh 100 pounds more than a bodybuilder, but we all know that half of a powerlifter�¢??s body weight is fat.

Also, many of the most well developed physiques are of individuals who hardly ever increase the amount of weight they lift, at least not on a regular basis.

Yet, they built and gained some serious muscle mass and weight.

That�¢??s because they knew that there are other more important factors in stimulating muscular development than lifting progressively heavier weights.

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ARM CHAIR BODYBUILDER LOL?

No, this is stupid


what the fuck is this nonsense drabble? Yeah because all these huge guys got that way by curling pink dumbells, and squatting 135 on a bosu ball. How much more complicated can this shit get?

[quote]MODOK wrote:
Its a shame that we teach all citizens in our society to read and write.[/quote]

lmao

Too long. Didn’t read.

[quote]DOHCrazy wrote:
Too long. Didn’t read.[/quote]

Yes. Also, you can tell after the first line that it’s going to be a one way trip to full retard.

Just subscribing to the thread to see the flames.

[quote]Mr.Purple wrote:
DOHCrazy wrote:
Too long. Didn’t read.

Yes. Also, you can tell after the first line that it’s going to be a one way trip to full retard.[/quote]

hahahahahaha

[quote]chimera182 wrote:
Just subscribing to the thread to see the flames.[/quote]

Allow me to start.

First off, I have never seen a powerlifting routine that lifted heaver weights every week. Every single routine I have ever seen uses progression in many different areas, volume, frequency, intensity, and yes including weight. I donâ??t think there is a single powerlifter anywhere that tries to attempt lifting more weight every week. Not one.

Additionally powerlifting progression generally focuses on the main lifts, not accessory movements. Accessory movements generally look like BBing routine structure.

Lastly, the 50% of powerlifting weight is fat thing is outright ignorant. You only really see guts on top level powerlifters in the top 2 weight classes. Go to a high level meet, look around at the 181, 198, 220, est. weight classes. You will see a lot of lean impressive physiques.

Additionally, top heavyweight powerlifters carry as much muscle as anyone. One of the reasons many of the guys powerlift is because their structure sucks for bodybuilding. So while BBers do generally have better looking physics, correlation vs. causation.

BTW: this is what way over 300 pounds with visible abs looks like.


now then, who exactly carries way more muscle than guys like this?

WHAT You Eat is NOT That Important in Determining the Amount of Weight You Gain or Muscle You Build!
Before you begin to doubt the sentence you just read, take a good look at PRISONERS:

     1. Prisoners only eat 3 or 4 times a day.

     2. Prisoners have no choice as to what types of food they eat.

     3. Their meals are not very nutritious according to "popular" standards.

     4. Their meals are high in carbohydrates, and are low in protein.

     5. The little protein they eat is not the "ion-exchange" high-priced whey, and most of the time it's considered "mystery meat".

     6. Prisoners don't use any kind of supplements whatsoever.

However, prisoners are some of the most muscular, most massive, most well-defined, most powerful individuals! No doubt about it!

That alone should make it obvious that what you eat almost has no affect on your muscle building progress.

Lol read this off his site.

He also had creatine and amino acids on his “worthless supplement’s list”. Yeah cause they’re EVIL!

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

Allow me to start.

First off, I have never seen a powerlifting routine that lifted heaver weights every week. Every single routine I have ever seen uses progression in many different areas, volume, frequency, intensity, and yes including weight. I don�¢??t think there is a single powerlifter anywhere that tries to attempt lifting more weight every week. Not one.

Additionally powerlifting progression generally focuses on the main lifts, not accessory movements. Accessory movements generally look like BBing routine structure.

[/quote]

Alright, here we go. I agree you dont see programs where they are increasing the weight each week. And thats because they are at a very high level. If they could increase teh weight each week, they would. But the goal is still to INCREASE the weight being lifted. And thats besides the point, because this is powerlifting which is about strength and the OP is talking about lifting heavier for size/muscle.

As for the OP’s views. Well I agree, WEIGHT gain has nothing to do with lifting heavy weights. It also has nothing to do with lifting light weights. WEIGHT gain is all about calories in vs. calories out.

But most of us here are not interested in just weight gain. We are interested in muscle gain. And you better believe that lifting HEAVY weights plays a huge role in getting huge.

You dont see too many natural trainees that just do pushups and bodyweight squats, and are huge, do you? There are a few, but if this method worked well, you’d see a TON of muscular people. But anytime you see someone benching 400, squatting and deadlifting 700+ you best believe they are going to have a great deal of muscle. Most people cant get to those levels of strength purely off leverage and neural efficiency. They are going to have to add a great deal of muscle.

And the same would go for someone benchng 95-135lbs. Sure they could just continue increasing their reps, or the “intensiveness” , but 9/10 times, you’d expect the person that is lifting 3-4x what this person is lifting to be SIGNIFICANTLY larger. This isn’t rocket science. I know it seems like building muscle is some mystical phenomenon, and sure your body doesn’t want to build muscle, but if you get stronger, and eat to gain weight their is a VERY HIGH likelihood that you’ll build muscle.

PS: Having said all that, I dont think you have to focus on max strength for your entire lifting career. But early on, strength can be developed VERY fast, even when you are an intermediate. There is no reason why someone shouldn’t strive to bench 300+, squat 400+ and deadlift 500+ (assuming no limitations) if their goals are to be bigger. At that point when they ARE ALREADY LIFTING HEAVY WEIGHTS, then other methods of increasing stimulii will be that much more effective.

I’ve never met a person who possesses a truly impressive strength and still looks small. If the author has met a lot of these persons I suspect the author simply doesn’t know what truly impressive strength is. To clarify, someone can be strong enough to impress the cute PT chick at Planet Fitness without being very big, but if we’re talking strength that is impressive even by a strength athlete’s standard, then no, such a person will not be small.

Edit: Doh, thought the OP had written this, didn’t realize he quoted it all. But damnit, next time you quote something this long and this stupid, make a disclaimer at the TOP of it! By the time people get halfway they’ll be too annoyed to keep reading and proceed directly to flaming without passing go.

[quote]dankid wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:

Allow me to start.

First off, I have never seen a powerlifting routine that lifted heaver weights every week. Every single routine I have ever seen uses progression in many different areas, volume, frequency, intensity, and yes including weight. I don�??�?�¢??t think there is a single powerlifter anywhere that tries to attempt lifting more weight every week. Not one.

Additionally powerlifting progression generally focuses on the main lifts, not accessory movements. Accessory movements generally look like BBing routine structure.

Alright, here we go. I agree you dont see programs where they are increasing the weight each week. And thats because they are at a very high level. If they could increase teh weight each week, they would. But the goal is still to INCREASE the weight being lifted. And thats besides the point, because this is powerlifting which is about strength and the OP is talking about lifting heavier for size/muscle.

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Beginner programs do not constantly increase weight either. I’m not sure what “If they could increase teh weight each week, they would” is supposed to mean. They can’t and they don’t which is contrary to what the OP said. If a BBer could get huge and cut eating ding dongs and watching tv, they would. What does a physically impossible hypothetical have to do with anything?

And no, the OP was directly addressing powerlifting and powerlifting training throughout the article. I don’t know how you could have missed that. The author was talking about something they apparently know very little about.

simply put, if this guy were right, Christian Thibaudeau would be wrong…whose side are you on?

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Beginner programs do not constantly increase weight either. I’m not sure what “If they could increase teh weight each week, they would” is supposed to mean. They can’t and they don’t which is contrary to what the OP said. If a BBer could get huge and cut eating ding dongs and watching tv, they would. What does a physically impossible hypothetical have to do with anything?

And no, the OP was directly addressing powerlifting and powerlifting training throughout the article. I don’t know how you could have missed that. The author was talking about something they apparently know very little about.
[/quote]

Simply put, there are MANY beginner programs that strive to increase weight each workout, whether they be bb’ing or pl’ing. Just because you are using a method of peridization that shoots for “peaking” doesn’t mean that everyone trains this way. Also, I didn’t read the OP’s entire post, that would have just been a waste of time.

Im not really sure if you are in agreement with him or not, but you cant argue that getting stronger will likely lead to getting bigger.

hahahahaha. Everybody knows that ALL powerlifters are 50% body fat.

Fucking hell, I glanced at the end of the OP and I saw this:

mojo_ if you want to quote an article, post an excerpt and then link to the original. Don’t copy and paste the whole thing, and then get flamed for being an idiot (which you may well be).

what does this mean?

“Ã?¢?Ã??Ã?¦Ã??Ã?¢?Ã??Ã?”

i just can’t read posts full of this, don’t make sense and hurts my eyes. someone please explain.