Muscle Patheticness

[mbdix]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Evolv wrote:
I have no problem with big muscular dudes. Those two guys are douchebags. 12 inch biceps or 22 inch biceps, 130 lbs or 260 lbs-- doesn’t matter, their douchebags by the very definition. [/quote]

They are actually two guys walking around with a camera crew.

I have been to enough beach parties to know a camera changes EVERYTHING…and once again means maybe there is more to someone than you see in 3 second intervals.[/quote]

When you wear the indoor sunglasses, the skintight tank tops, the oversized jewelery and you continually refer to yourself as the freaks, you should just expect to be called a doosh. I mean I look at those two about like I look at most of the cast of Jersey Shore. If you want to dress in the “look at me club style” then go for it but don’t get butt hurt when someone assumes that you act like the stereotypical subset of people that your are trying to be associated with.

Edit: Pretty much what Aragon said regarding these two. [/quote]

The reality is, many people give bad looks to ANY guy who is really big and shows any of it off.

These two are an extreme.

As for myself, I won’t be wearing baggy clothes just so no one ever thinks I think too highly of myself.

Life is too short to care that much about what random people think.

Aside from the sunglasses indoors and the bright colors, why would someone built like that have to cover it up just so no one thinks poorly of them?[/quote]

I agree with most here. But, what would you think if you saw a 6’2" 180lb guy in a skin tight shirt walking around?

You already pointed out the sunglasses indoors, bright colors, add onto that skin tight clothing, walking around a mall when they are 2 men in their mid 20’s(?) I think they define douche bags in almost every way. Come On Man! Just admit that these 2 seem like major Dooshes.

[jbpick86]

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
What is the big deal about the video? Either I’m missing it or you guys are a bunch of girls just looking for something to get cramps about.
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Ha watching that video you didn’t instantly think these two looked like they had just stepped out of an episode of Jersey Shore?[/quote]

Nah. I knew right off the bat that it was a set up to illicit a response. Pulling up and parking in the drop off in a big chromed out hummer, dressing like the guys from jersey shore, then changing up everything that they ordered is just pushing buttons of virtually everybody.

That vid is like the OP of an expertly crafted troll thread, then there was their normal selves at the end.
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I apparently didn’t make it to the end and the normal selves part. I assumed They were egging it on a little bit but they were still oozing that doosh vibe. If it was all a act then I got trolled and just didn’t realize it.

[Professor_X]

[quote]mbdix wrote:

I agree with most here. But, what would you think if you saw a 6’2" 180lb guy in a skin tight shirt walking around?[/quote]

That he’s trying to show off what he hasn’t built. I do believe that is the only time I think “douche”…when someone clearly doesn’t have it but really thinks they do.

Imaginary lat syndrome is a douche disease.

You already pointed out the sunglasses indoors, bright colors, add onto that skin tight clothing, walking around a mall when they are 2 men in their mid 20’s(?) I think they define douche bags in almost every way. Come On Man! Just admit that these 2 seem like major Dooshes.

I don’t see “douche” in “built guy wearing tank top”.

I see “built guy wearing tank top”…that’s all.

[Professor_X]

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Question 1:
How do you know they are looking down on someone just because they are smaller?[/quote]

They told me.[/quote]
They told you what exactly? Someone actually said, “I look down on you simply because you are smaller”???

Most of the people I train around lately aren’t my size. I damn sure don’t look down on them just because they are smaller than me.

I seriously doubt someone said that to you. I think it is what you believe other built people think.

So if Steve Jobs comes up and tells you that you suck for not making as much money as him, you’ll take it?

This comment doesn’t make sense. If the topic were on making money, he would clearly be the winner in that conversation…just like if the topic is on building big muscles, the guy with the big muscles is likely the “winner” in that conversation.

I generally use the word elitist to refer to anyone who has something exceptional in a given field but has no humility.

?? How much “humility” does someone owe you? Being proud of what you accomplished does not mean you lack humility. Further, how would you judge such a deep facet of someone’s character in one encounter?

Because I seriously dislike anyone who lacks humility.

Dude, you seem to lack humility.

[magick]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
They told you what exactly? Someone actually said, “I look down on you simply because you are smaller”???

Most of the people I train around lately aren’t my size. I damn sure don’t look down on them just because they are smaller than me.

I seriously doubt someone said that to you. I think it is what you believe other built people think.[/quote]

In that exact phrase? No. Something so similar that it means the same thing? Yes.

And there is a reason why I said it’s an anecdote… And why I fully expected you to write what you wrote here.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This comment doesn’t make sense. If the topic were on making money, he would clearly be the winner in that conversation…just like if the topic is on building big muscles, the guy with the big muscles is likely the “winner” in that conversation.[/quote]

It’s part of that humility thing.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
?? How much “humility” does someone owe you? Being proud of what you accomplished does not mean you lack humility.[/quote]

I never said being proud of how much you accomplished does not mean you lack humility. I said being proud of it and shoving it in people’s faces is lacking humility. Hence the Steve Jobs comment.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, you seem to lack humility.[/quote]

How so? I know I lack it, but I’m curious how that shows itself in the posts I’ve written.

And, looking at this,

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Further, how would you judge such a deep facet of someone’s character in one encounter?[/quote]

It seems rather hypocritical to say that you cannot judge people based on a single encounter in one second, then claim that I lack humility in another.

[Professor_X]

[quote]Evolv wrote:
I’ve never been to a beach party because douchebags like these go to beach parties.[/quote]

You need more life experience outside Jersey Shore reruns and the internet. I am not sure “douch” fits what I’ve seen at the Kappa Beach Parties in Texas.

More like “walking through an outside strip club”…but clearly you know best.

How these guys conducted themselves in about 12 MINUTES of video was plenty of evidence for me. A camera doesn’t change someone’s behavior, it captures it.

Actually, many people show out for cameras…like many ladies you might point one at while at a Kappa Beach party.

They were doing the same here…acting for the camera…and you fell for it…because you base what you believe are the deepest aspects of one’s personality on brief meetings and assumptions.

[The_Mighty_Stu]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
he’s trying to show off what he hasn’t built. I do believe that is the only time I think “douche”…when someone clearly doesn’t have it but really thinks they do.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I damn sure don’t look down on them just because they are smaller than me.
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[Professor_X]

[quote]magick wrote:
I never said being proud of how much you accomplished does not mean you lack humility. I said being proud of it and shoving it in people’s faces is lacking humility. Hence the Steve Jobs comment.[/quote]

Dude, we are talking about BODYBUILDING. How the hell do you avoid “shoving it in people’s faces” when apparently simply walking around a mall in a tank top means you are a douche now?

I mean, seriously…any dude who is really big is going to get attention unless he is wearing a parka. You seem to take this attention as a personal insult…and that says way more about you than them.

I hope to “shove it in people’s faces” as much as possible this summer. By wearing tank tops and going shopping.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, you seem to lack humility.[/quote]

How so? I know I lack it, but I’m curious how that shows itself in the posts I’ve written.[/quote]

You lack humility because you believe your snap judgment of people is actually appropriate and correct…when you couldn’t possibly know someone on that level in such a brief encounter.

It seems rather hypocritical to say that you cannot judge people based on a single encounter in one second, then claim that I lack humility in another.

I just explained it above…and you just wrote out enough about yourself…more than you got from that video of those two guys.

Enjoy the read.

[Professor_X]

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
he’s trying to show off what he hasn’t built. I do believe that is the only time I think “douche”…when someone clearly doesn’t have it but really thinks they do.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I damn sure don’t look down on them just because they are smaller than me.
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Stu, being smaller than me isn’t the issue. Lacking muscle mass yet showing off like you have it is a douche move.

I don’t see myself as better than someone SIMPLY because my muscles are bigger than theirs…and someone who has NO muscle isn’t even in the discussion.

[BrickHead]

We are all losers here.

We don’t have the mass of Dorian Yates, the looks of Robert Redford in his prime, the wealth of Warren Buffet, the brains of Werner Von Braun, the athleticism of Michael Jordan, the speed of Usain Bolt, the strength of Ed Coan.

We all lost. All of life is about losing and winning.

[BrickHead]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
They were doing the same here…acting for the camera…and you fell for it…because you base what you believe are the deepest aspects of one’s personality on brief meetings and assumptions.
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It’s normal and natural for people to judge others like that. We just hired someone at my job. All we had was 15 minutes to interview her, not her life story or how she will work in EVERY job situation or how she will behave in EVERY interaction she has with others.

The term “first impression” came about for a reason. If one DOES have time and opportunity to get past the first impression, then that’s a different story.

[Professor_X]

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
We are all losers here. [/quote]

Speak for yourself only.

[Professor_X]

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
They were doing the same here…acting for the camera…and you fell for it…because you base what you believe are the deepest aspects of one’s personality on brief meetings and assumptions.
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It’s normal and natural for people to judge others like that.[/quote]

It’s natural for humans to take a shit but doing it on someone is bad thing.

Just because some people act like this and see a guy in a tank top and immediately jump to something negative, it doesn’t make it right.

It also doesn’t mean we can’t discuss how wrong it actually is openly…but thanks for telling me what normal is.

Normal sounds disgusting.

We just hired someone at my job. All we had was 15 minutes to interview her, not her life story or how she will work in EVERY job situation or how she will behave in EVERY interaction she has with others.

WTF? So, no application and no resume that tells you work history?

LOL. You know a shit load about someone during an INTERVIEW…it is nothing like watching a big guy walk past in a tank top and calling him a douche.

The term “first impression” came about for a reason. If one DOES have time and opportunity to get past the first impression, then that’s a different story.

The term bigot came about for a reason too.

[Professor_X]

big·ot noun
: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group

Apparently the world of building big muscles has been infiltrated by people who don’t like big muscles now.

Hilarious that this is the new trend…hating people who “shove their big muscles in your face”…by wearing clothes that show off the muscles.

You would think the hate would be directed at the people who don’t try at all but sit on the sidelines talking shit.

[super_saiyan]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
he’s trying to show off what he hasn’t built. I do believe that is the only time I think “douche”…when someone clearly doesn’t have it but really thinks they do.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I damn sure don’t look down on them just because they are smaller than me.
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Stu, being smaller than me isn’t the issue. Lacking muscle mass yet showing off like you have it is a douche move.

I don’t see myself as better than someone SIMPLY because my muscles are bigger than theirs…and someone who has NO muscle isn’t even in the discussion.[/quote]

LOL

What an ass.

You do realize some people just like to wear tank tops and couldn’t care less about how much muscle mass they are carrying, don’t you?

Yet you judge someone for not having muscle mass because you assume they are trying to show it off simply because they wear a tank top?

[BrickHead]

People are free to think whatever the hell they want. If some guy thinks the two people in the video are distasteful, then that’s his prerogative.

Are you solution oriented, X? How do you supposed we get all these negative peoples’ thinking straightened out?

I don’t think poorly of ANYONE wearing a tank top. I seriously don’t. If it’s hot outside and you want to wear one, whether you’re fat, muscular, skinny, or whatever, I seriously don’t care, and most people don’t either considering most people don’t give a rat’s ass about analyzing others’ physiques.

[BrickHead]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
The reality is, many people give bad looks to ANY guy who is really big and shows any of it off. [/quote]

That’s exactly right. And they probably are inclined to this line sort of thought because of what a stereotypical “big guy” is like. It’s their right to think that, whether it’s senseless or sensible.

As for myself, I won’t be wearing baggy clothes just so no one ever thinks I think too highly of myself.

Then don’t! Just realize you’re dealing with the real world and that people aren’t going to adjust their thoughts to your liking. If you figure out a way to make them straighten their thinking out, please share.

Life is too short to care that much about what random people think.

In most cases this is true.

Aside from the sunglasses indoors and the bright colors, why would someone built like that have to cover it up just so no one thinks poorly of them?

You speak as if there are people out there making demands on these two men. If they want to wear tank tops, take roids, train their asses off, and eat 7,000 calories per day, that’s their prerogative, just like it’s the prerogative of others to think the bodybuilding lifestyle and look is insane!

[BrickHead]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

That he’s trying to show off what he hasn’t built. I do believe that is the only time I think “douche”…when someone clearly doesn’t have it but really thinks they do.
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What if he simply LIKES the skin tight outfit? Should he not wear it because you think it looks douchy on him?

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I don’t see “douche” in “built guy wearing tank top”.

I see “built guy wearing tank top”…that’s all. [/quote]

Your thoughts and opinions that you’re entitled to, just as those who think the opposite are entitled to their own thoughts too!

[BrickHead]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Just because some people act like this and see a guy in a tank top and immediately jump to something negative, it doesn’t make it right. [/quote]

Says the guy who implies he is in the right in thinking a slender, 180 pound man wearing tight clothing is a douche.

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It also doesn’t mean we can’t discuss how wrong it actually is openly…but thanks for telling me what normal is. [/quote]

Then we should discuss how you shitting on some slender guy wearing tight clothing is wrong too.

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Normal sounds disgusting. [/quote]

Yes, judging people on first impression, when you have nothing to go by except personal preference and past experience and observation with those who give the same sort of impression (classical conditioning at work), IS unfair–just like THE WORLD IS UNFAIR–but if you want to use the word “disgusting”, that’s fine too.

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WTF? So, no application and no resume that tells you work history? [/quote]

Of course it does tell history. But we are still going by the person’s dress, appearance, and mannerisms, and we have no idea how she will perform in certain situations. So we are left with a one page resume and 15 minutes of talking, not observation for any appreciable amount of time.

People have all sorts of impressions of people without even knowing them yet and it’s natural to do so considering personal preference, observation, and experience.

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The term bigot came about for a reason too.[/quote]

Exactly.

[BrickHead]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
big·ot noun
: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group [/quote]

I usually go by this definition: big·ot·ed
: having or revealing an obstinate belief in the superiority of one’s own opinions and a prejudiced intolerance of the opinions of others.

I’m not sure if you’re implying I am bigoted but the definition above certainly doesn’t suit me considering my opinions on this subject are not based on superiority or inferiority.

I’m a very fair person, and if I dislike a person or group, it’s because of my repeated negative experiences with them, which is actually fair: judging people on their repeated behaviors.