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[quote]buddaboy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]buddaboy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, I would say if you are 40+ and just maintaining your body weight as you get older, unless you are really into bodybuilding and focused on body composition, it is likely you are losing muscle and gaining body fat unless you are seeing regular progress in the gym.

Someone like that could end up at age 50, weighing the same as they did at 40, yet carrying an extra 20-30lbs of body fat.

To my knowledge, many of the people responding aren’t even into bodybuilding actively meaning you can’t relate their actions to someone who is.[/quote]

Louie Simmons is still reporting making progress in the gym, as I said I believe him to be more the exception than the norm, though as i said guys I know tend more to focus on health and CV rather than maintaining a physique of 250LB’s upwards or trying to build MORE muscle. I suppose injuries are a big factor, if you train from your teens into your late forties and early fifties then all that training will take it toll on the body.

RV pointed out fairly that Sly Stallone and Lou Ferrigno are still huge, so we know it certainly is possible to at least maintain a god amount of size into your senior years, though I would question how healthy it is to remain >250LB’s into your fifties and upwards, irrespective of body-fat percentage. [/quote]

That’s the whole point. It isn’t about “body weight” which is why that article is a little off as well as other people’s reactions to it.

As someone gets older, as far as bodybuilding is concerned, there is no such thing as “maintenance”…at least not as far as that term applies to people less than the age of 40-45. Once you reach a certain age, you have to be making progress just to stay in the same place…because your body is working against you even more.

That is why some experience problems later on as far as hormonal profiles…what allowed you to maintain “240lbs” easily before now needs to be amped up or else you are sliding backwards…and ramping things up at that age can cause even further problems.

Why do you think so many of us keep saying that the time for this is limited and that those who slow gain probably won’t ever reach any extreme goal?

I was about 20-21 when I first started reading this site. I ahve stated since then that most should already have any bulking out of the way by the age of 30-35 because the human body does not respond the same after that age.

Mind you, to idiots, this transalates to “eat hamburgers and get fat”.

Bottom line, I’ve been saying this shit…but when the comprehension level of those reading is as poor as it seems top be, it doesn’t matter what you write.[/quote]

I see what you mean about maintenance and having to work harder to stay in the same place, fair point; and if you can healthily keep hold of a large amount of muscle into old age then yes it will require a tremendous amount of hard work and dedication, more than many will be prepared to put in.
The point I was trying to make-is that especially as you get older-health should take priority over size. If you can have both great, but if I can’t for any reason I’ll choose health every time.

I am 31 now and have gained 75Lb’s since I started training-not to shabby though nothing to brag about.
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Most people would choose health, but making an article that makes it seem like simply being bigger is UNhealthy is medically irresponsible.

Your genetics determine that more than anything and I would bet the guy who can carry that size better is the one who reached that weight and kept seriously being focused on body comp through the ages of 35 and later.

In other words, use your time wisely…if your plan is to get really big, go ahead and do so before you hit 35 or accept that you may see poorer health markers as a result of pushing your body that far at an age when it has already settled into what it considers “normal weight set points”.

I swear, after ten years of this and me saying the same thing…you really have to wonder how people see something different…unless people simply see what they want to see.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]buddaboy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]buddaboy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, I would say if you are 40+ and just maintaining your body weight as you get older, unless you are really into bodybuilding and focused on body composition, it is likely you are losing muscle and gaining body fat unless you are seeing regular progress in the gym.

Someone like that could end up at age 50, weighing the same as they did at 40, yet carrying an extra 20-30lbs of body fat.

To my knowledge, many of the people responding aren’t even into bodybuilding actively meaning you can’t relate their actions to someone who is.[/quote]

Louie Simmons is still reporting making progress in the gym, as I said I believe him to be more the exception than the norm, though as i said guys I know tend more to focus on health and CV rather than maintaining a physique of 250LB’s upwards or trying to build MORE muscle. I suppose injuries are a big factor, if you train from your teens into your late forties and early fifties then all that training will take it toll on the body.

RV pointed out fairly that Sly Stallone and Lou Ferrigno are still huge, so we know it certainly is possible to at least maintain a god amount of size into your senior years, though I would question how healthy it is to remain >250LB’s into your fifties and upwards, irrespective of body-fat percentage. [/quote]

That’s the whole point. It isn’t about “body weight” which is why that article is a little off as well as other people’s reactions to it.

As someone gets older, as far as bodybuilding is concerned, there is no such thing as “maintenance”…at least not as far as that term applies to people less than the age of 40-45. Once you reach a certain age, you have to be making progress just to stay in the same place…because your body is working against you even more.

That is why some experience problems later on as far as hormonal profiles…what allowed you to maintain “240lbs” easily before now needs to be amped up or else you are sliding backwards…and ramping things up at that age can cause even further problems.

Why do you think so many of us keep saying that the time for this is limited and that those who slow gain probably won’t ever reach any extreme goal?

I was about 20-21 when I first started reading this site. I ahve stated since then that most should already have any bulking out of the way by the age of 30-35 because the human body does not respond the same after that age.

Mind you, to idiots, this transalates to “eat hamburgers and get fat”.

Bottom line, I’ve been saying this shit…but when the comprehension level of those reading is as poor as it seems top be, it doesn’t matter what you write.[/quote]

I see what you mean about maintenance and having to work harder to stay in the same place, fair point; and if you can healthily keep hold of a large amount of muscle into old age then yes it will require a tremendous amount of hard work and dedication, more than many will be prepared to put in.
The point I was trying to make-is that especially as you get older-health should take priority over size. If you can have both great, but if I can’t for any reason I’ll choose health every time.

I am 31 now and have gained 75Lb’s since I started training-not to shabby though nothing to brag about.
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unless people simply see what they want to see.[/quote]

This last part says it all, I have to constantly warn people who work for me not to correspond in emails. People misinterpret emails all the time, maybe not the intention but this is the reality.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

Testosterone aromatises into estrogen. why exactly that happens, im not sure if i have ever read why it occurs, it just does. that is why i beleive all guys after a certain point should always take an AI. to prevent that from happening. [/quote]

You’re right that T aromatises into E, but unfortunately that’s the only thing you’re right about. Your solution for that in an aging male couldn’t be more wrong…please just stop before you get someone hurt…your advice is useless and you have no idea what you’re talking about…
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well, i have read numerous articles that talk about exactly what i said. google it sometime. type in aromatise inhibitor for aging men. i think its a very logical thing to consider. are there are things to consider, of course. i wasn’t trying to advise him. but with all the test boosters out there and estrogen blockers. now im talking about test boosters that have been documented to work. so, are you just going to throw you hands up in the air and say, “gee, theres nothing i can do, im going to lose all the muscle ive gained all these years of training” i say no way on earth am i losing even an ounce, i will take whatever i have to take to prevent that.

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Wonder if PF paid for this article, seems like the kind of stuff pencil-neck office warriors and overweight stay at home moms would be happy to read.

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[quote]ReignIB wrote:
Wonder if PF paid for this article, seems like the kind of stuff pencil-neck office warriors and overweight stay at home moms would be happy to read.
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LOL…and those same types here will love it…the ones crying steroids at every turn but won’t post pictures of what they apparently spent years working on.

The mentality is a little like people who say, “don’t get a tattoo because you will hate it when you are 60”.

It is as if they forget all of the life to be lived before then.

Getting old sucks. It has to be the greatest villanous act mankind has ever known.

However, for people who are older to turn around and tell every young guy to avoid aspirations because somne old guys who weren’t really even into bodybuilding got high blood pressure is a little off.

The OP even admitted he got big without even trying…which is not bodybuilding. This isn’t someone who spent years working on building the most muscle possible on a balanced frame so I have no doubt he can easily discard of a dream he never even had.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]buddaboy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]buddaboy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, I would say if you are 40+ and just maintaining your body weight as you get older, unless you are really into bodybuilding and focused on body composition, it is likely you are losing muscle and gaining body fat unless you are seeing regular progress in the gym.

Someone like that could end up at age 50, weighing the same as they did at 40, yet carrying an extra 20-30lbs of body fat.

To my knowledge, many of the people responding aren’t even into bodybuilding actively meaning you can’t relate their actions to someone who is.[/quote]

Louie Simmons is still reporting making progress in the gym, as I said I believe him to be more the exception than the norm, though as i said guys I know tend more to focus on health and CV rather than maintaining a physique of 250LB’s upwards or trying to build MORE muscle. I suppose injuries are a big factor, if you train from your teens into your late forties and early fifties then all that training will take it toll on the body.

RV pointed out fairly that Sly Stallone and Lou Ferrigno are still huge, so we know it certainly is possible to at least maintain a god amount of size into your senior years, though I would question how healthy it is to remain >250LB’s into your fifties and upwards, irrespective of body-fat percentage. [/quote]

That’s the whole point. It isn’t about “body weight” which is why that article is a little off as well as other people’s reactions to it.

As someone gets older, as far as bodybuilding is concerned, there is no such thing as “maintenance”…at least not as far as that term applies to people less than the age of 40-45. Once you reach a certain age, you have to be making progress just to stay in the same place…because your body is working against you even more.

That is why some experience problems later on as far as hormonal profiles…what allowed you to maintain “240lbs” easily before now needs to be amped up or else you are sliding backwards…and ramping things up at that age can cause even further problems.

Why do you think so many of us keep saying that the time for this is limited and that those who slow gain probably won’t ever reach any extreme goal?

I was about 20-21 when I first started reading this site. I ahve stated since then that most should already have any bulking out of the way by the age of 30-35 because the human body does not respond the same after that age.

Mind you, to idiots, this transalates to “eat hamburgers and get fat”.

Bottom line, I’ve been saying this shit…but when the comprehension level of those reading is as poor as it seems top be, it doesn’t matter what you write.[/quote]

I see what you mean about maintenance and having to work harder to stay in the same place, fair point; and if you can healthily keep hold of a large amount of muscle into old age then yes it will require a tremendous amount of hard work and dedication, more than many will be prepared to put in.
The point I was trying to make-is that especially as you get older-health should take priority over size. If you can have both great, but if I can’t for any reason I’ll choose health every time.

I am 31 now and have gained 75Lb’s since I started training-not to shabby though nothing to brag about.
[/quote]

Most people would choose health, but making an article that makes it seem like simply being bigger is UNhealthy is medically irresponsible.

Your genetics determine that more than anything and I would bet the guy who can carry that size better is the one who reached that weight and kept seriously being focused on body comp through the ages of 35 and later.

In other words, use your time wisely…if your plan is to get really big, go ahead and do so before you hit 35 or accept that you may see poorer health markers as a result of pushing your body that far at an age when it has already settled into what it considers “normal weight set points”.

I swear, after ten years of this and me saying the same thing…you really have to wonder how people see something different…unless people simply see what they want to see.[/quote]

I agree.

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

Testosterone aromatises into estrogen. why exactly that happens, im not sure if i have ever read why it occurs, it just does. that is why i beleive all guys after a certain point should always take an AI. to prevent that from happening. [/quote]

You’re right that T aromatises into E, but unfortunately that’s the only thing you’re right about. Your solution for that in an aging male couldn’t be more wrong…please just stop before you get someone hurt…your advice is useless and you have no idea what you’re talking about…
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well, i have read numerous articles that talk about exactly what i said. google it sometime. type in aromatise inhibitor for aging men. i think its a very logical thing to consider. are there are things to consider, of course. i wasn’t trying to advise him. but with all the test boosters out there and estrogen blockers. now im talking about test boosters that have been documented to work. so, are you just going to throw you hands up in the air and say, “gee, theres nothing i can do, im going to lose all the muscle ive gained all these years of training” i say no way on earth am i losing even an ounce, i will take whatever i have to take to prevent that. [/quote]

LOL at you telling me to google it sometime considering I’ve spent most of my free time over the past two years studying this and researching it due to my own hormone issues. You are only scratching the surface by addressing E2 (and Adex monotherapy will NOT work for older men).

I don’t care to get into it here, but the low T problem in aging men is not due to high E2 aromatase (at least not directly). The main problem is down regulation of cortisol and thyroid production lines, which is a natural result of aging. Without these hormone chains in order, your body will fight any increase in T by dumping it to E2 (which unfortunately further supresses your T). If you want to maintain youthful levels, you have to address theese other factors before even trying to address your T.

And this treatment is optimistically assuming that the testicles and HPTA are even in good enough health to produce T optimally when the cortisol/thyroid production lines are in order–and this is a very strong leap of optimism given the incidence of primary hypogonadism in aging men.

The bottom line is that it can be done, but your method of getting there is wrong and represents a very elementary understanding of the hormone cascade and their feedback loops.

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How old are you prof. X? At what age did you start training? Outside of the expected newbie gains at what age has training gone the most smoothly for you? Where do you feel is the peek where your body starts to go the other way and fight against you?

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

Testosterone aromatises into estrogen. why exactly that happens, im not sure if i have ever read why it occurs, it just does. that is why i beleive all guys after a certain point should always take an AI. to prevent that from happening. [/quote]

You’re right that T aromatises into E, but unfortunately that’s the only thing you’re right about. Your solution for that in an aging male couldn’t be more wrong…please just stop before you get someone hurt…your advice is useless and you have no idea what you’re talking about…
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well, i have read numerous articles that talk about exactly what i said. google it sometime. type in aromatise inhibitor for aging men. i think its a very logical thing to consider. are there are things to consider, of course. i wasn’t trying to advise him. but with all the test boosters out there and estrogen blockers. now im talking about test boosters that have been documented to work. so, are you just going to throw you hands up in the air and say, “gee, theres nothing i can do, im going to lose all the muscle ive gained all these years of training” i say no way on earth am i losing even an ounce, i will take whatever i have to take to prevent that. [/quote]

LOL at you telling me to google it sometime considering I’ve spent most of my free time over the past two years studying this and researching it due to my own hormone issues. You are only scratching the surface by addressing E2 (and Adex monotherapy will NOT work for older men).

I don’t care to get into it here, but the low T problem in aging men is not due to high E2 aromatase (at least not directly). The main problem is down regulation of cortisol and thyroid production lines, which is a natural result of aging. Without these hormone chains in order, your body will fight any increase in T by dumping it to E2 (which unfortunately further supresses your T). If you want to maintain youthful levels, you have to address theese other factors before even trying to address your T.

And this treatment is optimistically assuming that the testicles and HPTA are even in good enough health to produce T optimally when the cortisol/thyroid production lines are in order–and this is a very strong leap of optimism given the incidence of primary hypogonadism in aging men.

The bottom line is that it can be done, but your method of getting there is wrong and represents a very elementary understanding of the hormone cascade and their feedback loops.
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beautiful. thanks for this, by the way, I’ve been meaning to approach my dad about this and he really listens to science when it comes to medical stuff.

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[quote]behexen wrote:
How old are you prof. X? At what age did you start training? Outside of the expected newbie gains at what age has training gone the most smoothly for you? Where do you feel is the peek where your body starts to go the other way and fight against you?

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I am mid-30’s now. I was early 20’s when I first started posting here. I had been lifting seriously for about 3 years or so before then. My body isn’t fighting me right now. I spent my earlier years building size. I now have that size and am dieting now. I doubt I will bulk up anywhere near what I have in the past from now on…which was the plan from the start.

If you are asking generally when someone is going to notice a change in how their body adapts, that is going to be different from person to person…but I think it is safe to say that you should not expect your body to make the same gains at the same rate over the age of 35-40 as it can before the age of 30.

That was the whole reason why I bulked up like I did early. It worked…despite the idiots acting like it didn’t and acting like I’m obese because of it.

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I Swore I would only lurk, but this is too good. 1st, thanks to everyone who contributes to this site. The amount of knowledge and the willingness to share it is truly amazing. 2nd, this article should resonate with some but not all, just as every other article here on this forum should. Not everyone wants to stand on stage in their underwear and not everyone wants to pick up a car. Most of us take advice from, and even admire those who are in the position we strive to be in, no matter what that may be. I’ve lurked for a long time, and don’t recall seeing odd posts like, eat cheeseburgers and lift, that were serious but maybe they’re around here somewhere… don’t know.

I do know there is plenty of that going on in gyms. Kids are impressionable, just as I was, and anyone in the position to influence should know better than to brush someone off with a statement like that. It would seem that something like that would be squashed pretty quickly here. I don’t know the first thing about power lifting, but I do know that MOST of us will never make it to the national or professional bodybuilding stage. If you’re interested in “bodybuilding” then it shouldn’t take more than one trip to a local show to see a packed middle weight class, decent light heavy, and a subpar heavyweight division where 1/2 are likely light heavies or even mw’s that chose not to come on down.

If you’re 200+ lbs on stage and look like you belong there, then you’re a big bastard. Period. Most of us on here simply are not, and likely never will be. It wouldn’t have mattered if I had read this article when I was 20 because I was determined to pick up cars in my underwear WHILE on stage. :slight_smile: I wanted all of it. It took years for me to come to grips with my genetic potential and to stop swimming upstream. It’s a learning experience, and the experience was great for me.
Anyway, awesome site and I hope to be able to contribute what little I know. I posted pics in my account section so all of you can determine the worth of my text.

And the dude who’s built like the hulk and is a vampire is straight up awesome entertainment.

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[quote]v996 wrote:
I Swore I would only lurk, but this is too good. 1st, thanks to everyone who contributes to this site. The amount of knowledge and the willingness to share it is truly amazing. 2nd, this article should resonate with some but not all, just as every other article here on this forum should. Not everyone wants to stand on stage in their underwear and not everyone wants to pick up a car. Most of us take advice from, and even admire those who are in the position we strive to be in, no matter what that may be. I’ve lurked for a long time, and don’t recall seeing odd posts like, eat cheeseburgers and lift, that were serious but maybe they’re around here somewhere… don’t know.

I do know there is plenty of that going on in gyms. Kids are impressionable, just as I was, and anyone in the position to influence should know better than to brush someone off with a statement like that. It would seem that something like that would be squashed pretty quickly here. I don’t know the first thing about power lifting, but I do know that MOST of us will never make it to the national or professional bodybuilding stage. If you’re interested in “bodybuilding” then it shouldn’t take more than one trip to a local show to see a packed middle weight class, decent light heavy, and a subpar heavyweight division where 1/2 are likely light heavies or even mw’s that chose not to come on down.

If you’re 200+ lbs on stage and look like you belong there, then you’re a big bastard. Period. Most of us on here simply are not, and likely never will be. It wouldn’t have mattered if I had read this article when I was 20 because I was determined to pick up cars in my underwear WHILE on stage. :slight_smile: I wanted all of it. It took years for me to come to grips with my genetic potential and to stop swimming upstream. It’s a learning experience, and the experience was great for me.
Anyway, awesome site and I hope to be able to contribute what little I know. I posted pics in my account section so all of you can determine the worth of my text.

And the dude who’s built like the hulk and is a vampire is straight up awesome entertainment.[/quote]

How old are you?

What happened that made you “come to grips with with my genetic potential and to stop swimming upstream”?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am mid-30’s now. I was early 20’s when I first started posting here. I had been lifting seriously for about 3 years or so before then. My body isn’t fighting me right now. I spent my earlier years building size. I now have that size and am dieting now. I doubt I will bulk up anywhere near what I have in the past from now on…which was the plan from the start.

If you are asking generally when someone is going to notice a change in how their body adapts, that is going to be different from person to person…but I think it is safe to say that you should not expect your body to make the same gains at the same rate over the age of 35-40 as it can before the age of 30.

That was the whole reason why I bulked up like I did early. It worked…despite the idiots acting like it didn’t and acting like I’m obese because of it.[/quote]

I’m 21 and i’m bulking now. I know you have mentioned before that back in college you felt you let yourself get alittle fatter than need be. What would you use as a typical guideline for someone as to when you feel it’s time for alittle damage control and when you should just keep feeding and lifting?

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[quote]behexen wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am mid-30’s now. I was early 20’s when I first started posting here. I had been lifting seriously for about 3 years or so before then. My body isn’t fighting me right now. I spent my earlier years building size. I now have that size and am dieting now. I doubt I will bulk up anywhere near what I have in the past from now on…which was the plan from the start.

If you are asking generally when someone is going to notice a change in how their body adapts, that is going to be different from person to person…but I think it is safe to say that you should not expect your body to make the same gains at the same rate over the age of 35-40 as it can before the age of 30.

That was the whole reason why I bulked up like I did early. It worked…despite the idiots acting like it didn’t and acting like I’m obese because of it.[/quote]

I’m 21 and i’m bulking now. I know you have mentioned before that back in college you felt you let yourself get alittle fatter than need be. What would you use as a typical guideline for someone as to when you feel it’s time for alittle damage control and when you should just keep feeding and lifting? [/quote]

Are you asking another man that you don’t know on advice of how to tell if oyu are too fat or not? Jesus Christ…if you don’t like the way you look and think you’re too fat, do damage control…how in the fuck is he supposed to know what too fat is for YOU?

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I’ve read that after you reach a certain body fat it becomes harder to put on muscle, this is more what i’m asking about. I’m not to worried about the looks aspect.

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I agree with a lot of what the OP aluded to. 2 years ago I was over 260lbs, and I have been over 275 before. I am now 230 and leaner than I have ever been in my life. I will post or pm a pic if any one is interested. now that I am in my 40’s, my small 5-6" frame just cant handle carrying 250lbs plus anymore.

my knees feel better, my feet, and I sleep better too. I am not as strong as I used to be…but I would not be as strong as I was when I was younger no matter how big I get now.

recently I pressed 140kg, power-cleaned 150kg, deadlifted 250kg, and front squatted 200kg. I’ll take that and have abds, vascularity, look better to the wifey, and feel a lot better than being HYOOGE at this staged in my life.

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Why would you start a thread to demonize someones goal in life? Weather or not you want to get big, if someone else does, good for them.

Have they set goals? Do they work hard to achieve them? If the answer to both of those is yes, then weather you agree with what they are doing or not, just say “good job” and move on.

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[quote]RussaldoStrong wrote:
Why would you start a thread to demonize someones goal in life? Weather or not you want to get big, if someone else does, good for them.

Have they set goals? Do they work hard to achieve them? If the answer to both of those is yes, then weather you agree with what they are doing or not, just say “good job” and move on.

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You would think that would be the dominant opinion on a site like this.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]v996 wrote:
I Swore I would only lurk, but this is too good. 1st, thanks to everyone who contributes to this site. The amount of knowledge and the willingness to share it is truly amazing. 2nd, this article should resonate with some but not all, just as every other article here on this forum should. Not everyone wants to stand on stage in their underwear and not everyone wants to pick up a car. Most of us take advice from, and even admire those who are in the position we strive to be in, no matter what that may be. I’ve lurked for a long time, and don’t recall seeing odd posts like, eat cheeseburgers and lift, that were serious but maybe they’re around here somewhere… don’t know.

I do know there is plenty of that going on in gyms. Kids are impressionable, just as I was, and anyone in the position to influence should know better than to brush someone off with a statement like that. It would seem that something like that would be squashed pretty quickly here. I don’t know the first thing about power lifting, but I do know that MOST of us will never make it to the national or professional bodybuilding stage. If you’re interested in “bodybuilding” then it shouldn’t take more than one trip to a local show to see a packed middle weight class, decent light heavy, and a subpar heavyweight division where 1/2 are likely light heavies or even mw’s that chose not to come on down.

If you’re 200+ lbs on stage and look like you belong there, then you’re a big bastard. Period. Most of us on here simply are not, and likely never will be. It wouldn’t have mattered if I had read this article when I was 20 because I was determined to pick up cars in my underwear WHILE on stage. :slight_smile: I wanted all of it. It took years for me to come to grips with my genetic potential and to stop swimming upstream. It’s a learning experience, and the experience was great for me.
Anyway, awesome site and I hope to be able to contribute what little I know. I posted pics in my account section so all of you can determine the worth of my text.

And the dude who’s built like the hulk and is a vampire is straight up awesome entertainment.[/quote]

How old are you?

What happened that made you “come to grips with with my genetic potential and to stop swimming upstream”?[/quote]

I’m 36. I knew pretty early on, maybe early 20’s that powerlifting wasn’t going to be my thing. I never had the strength to be competitive. I started olympic lifting at age 12 with my uncle, built a good base for sports and got hooked on “bodybuilding” in highschool. By my early 20’s I saw some of the numbers local guys would put up in PL meets and knew I could never compete. It wasn’t a mind over matter thing, just a genetic thing. What I did have were small joints, small hips and the ability to eat stale grass for 20 weeks, so…

I won my weight classes in my 2nd and 3rd shows, but understood what it was going to take for me to go to the next level. At 5’11, you won’t win many nationals on stage in the 190’s.

The swimming upstream applied to power lifting, but in reality it applies to both. I’m debating competing again (it’s been almost 7 years now) but I fully understand that if I get back into it, I’ll be a local regular, and that’s cool with me. I’ve never taken an overall, and that would be awesome, but the pipe dreams are long gone of me standing on stage at the nationals. the price I would have to pay is not worth it. Others’ opinions will surely vary and thank God for that. What a dull world it would be if we all had the same goals.

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[quote]RussaldoStrong wrote:
Why would you start a thread to demonize someones goal in life? Weather or not you want to get big, if someone else does, good for them.

Have they set goals? Do they work hard to achieve them? If the answer to both of those is yes, then weather you agree with what they are doing or not, just say “good job” and move on.

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I guess for the same reason the guy who runs the site decided to write an article about it. To generate discussion.

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Youre criticizing someone for critizing someone else. Strange.

You could have done exactly what youre telling the OP to do when there are differing opinions; acknowledge it and move on.