[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Oxford English Dictionary:
Bodybuilder
Noun
- A person who strengthens and enlarges the muscles of their body though strenuous exercise.
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Thats great. Let me go scrape up a few thousand bucks and publish my own dictionary. By that definitipn football players powerlifters strongmen are all bodybuilders.
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Yes Bonez on its own that post maybe wasn’t much help but explains the publics misinterpretation of bodybuilding.
This definition is responsible for the general publics misconception of bodybuilding. If Joe average sees a jacked up guy swaggering down the street in a tight t-shirt they will likely assume he is a bodybuilder because it is apparent he does weights. An easy mistake for the uninitiated to make IMO. People in ‘the know’ obviously have a much more sophisticated understanding of weight lifting related endeavors, although a bulked up ‘off season’ bodybuilder may well look like, and be reasonably mistaken for a powerlifter.
If a writer writes for ten years before he becomes published does he only become a writer the day he gets his book published and starts earning royalties? I would say he becomes a ‘professional’ writer that day, if he only had articles published then maybe he becomes an ‘accomplished’ writer that day.
When a guy enters his first bodybuilding competition does he only become a bodybuilder that day? No, he becomes a competitive bodybuilder that day, if he places or wins something then he is certainly accomplished to a degree at least (anyone who steps on stage or into a ring or pursues their endeavors with a passion wins my respect) and when/if he starts making his living out of it he then becomes a professional bodybuilder.
So yes, I think you can be a bodybuilder without competing.
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Youre equating writing professionally with professional bodybuilding. The caveat is that amateur bodybuilding exists. NPC. THose guys dont make money like the published writer does.
Ive said it once before. Analogies arent going to work here. Bodybuilding is a unique endeavor.
Your analogy would work if you compared the guy who has notes written down of all these ideas about character development, plot lines, chrolongy of events to the guy who actually takes those notes and puts it all together into a book (physical version or on a computer). Getting published equates with turning pro, not with stepping on stage. Youre not a book writer (or poetry writer; same criteria as above, or article writer, etc) until youve actually written the book.
Im not criticizing your analogy, Im just showing you how it doesnt apply. I cant think of one analogy that works. If you can, go for it. Im interested. Maybe it’ll change my mind about the definition of a bodybuilder. [/quote]
Bonez, what is your perception of the definition of a bodybuilder? Are you of the opinion that until someone has competed they are not a bodybuilder? If you are I don’t think thats unreasonable.
I neglected to mention amateur writing in my analogy-my bad, the point I was trying to make was that someone can still pursue an endeavor without doing something on a competitive basis or a professional level and wear the label. I’ll use X as an example I think its fair to call him a bodybuilder even though he has not competed.
I can see your point that in order to prevent the word bodybuilder being thrown around it could be fitting to say that unless someone has competed they are not a bodybuilder.
You’ve worded your post very carefully you sneaky &^%$£@, and I am trying to think of a more accurate analogy, and of course Bodybuilding IS a unique endeavor. I did think of using stand up comedy, because I wouldn’t call someone a stand up comedian until they had performed on stage in at least a small venue like a bar.
I think the reality is that people who look the part-and isn’t that what bodybuilding is all about-looks? Are able to wear the title of ‘Bodybuilder’ whether they compete or not, thats just my interpretation…
