[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Have a valid fucking argument before you step to me again.
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just did. done.
OMG! I don’t agree with x, and I am not an idiot, and I do have a valid argument…and I am not small and weak!!! the world has just ended and hell has just frozen over.
[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Have a valid fucking argument before you step to me again.
[/quote]
Looks like someone wants a dance off!![/quote]
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Have a valid fucking argument before you step to me again.
[/quote]
Looks like someone wants a dance off!![/quote]
[/quote]
Pffft.
That ain’t real dancing.
THIS:
is real dancing.
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Somebody say crawfish?
From this past weekend: (batch 1 of 6)[/quote]
Oh I’d rather talk about this. I’ve never had crawfish, do they taste like lobster? They kind of look like little lobsters. I am jealous. 
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I will answer you in honor of your EXCELLENT contributions to the “you got curves” thread.
no, crawfish does not taste like lobster. it is a freshwater animal, and IMO taste more “fishy” than salt water food. but it has a distinct “pungent” smell and quality, and if cooked and spiced correctly, it is a festival in your mouth. try some sometime, In Alabama, Mississippi, or Louisiana if you can.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Oxford English Dictionary:
Bodybuilder
Noun
Thats great. Let me go scrape up a few thousand bucks and publish my own dictionary. By that definitipn football players powerlifters strongmen are all bodybuilders.
Useless post is useless[/quote]
Yes Bonez on its own that post maybe wasn’t much help but explains the publics misinterpretation of bodybuilding.
This definition is responsible for the general publics misconception of bodybuilding. If Joe average sees a jacked up guy swaggering down the street in a tight t-shirt they will likely assume he is a bodybuilder because it is apparent he does weights. An easy mistake for the uninitiated to make IMO. People in ‘the know’ obviously have a much more sophisticated understanding of weight lifting related endeavors, although a bulked up ‘off season’ bodybuilder may well look like, and be reasonably mistaken for a powerlifter.
If a writer writes for ten years before he becomes published does he only become a writer the day he gets his book published and starts earning royalties? I would say he becomes a ‘professional’ writer that day, if he only had articles published then maybe he becomes an ‘accomplished’ writer that day.
When a guy enters his first bodybuilding competition does he only become a bodybuilder that day? No, he becomes a competitive bodybuilder that day, if he places or wins something then he is certainly accomplished to a degree at least (anyone who steps on stage or into a ring or pursues their endeavors with a passion wins my respect) and when/if he starts making his living out of it he then becomes a professional bodybuilder.
So yes, I think you can be a bodybuilder without competing.
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Youre equating writing professionally with professional bodybuilding. The caveat is that amateur bodybuilding exists. NPC. THose guys dont make money like the published writer does.
Ive said it once before. Analogies arent going to work here. Bodybuilding is a unique endeavor.
Your analogy would work if you compared the guy who has notes written down of all these ideas about character development, plot lines, chrolongy of events to the guy who actually takes those notes and puts it all together into a book (physical version or on a computer). Getting published equates with turning pro, not with stepping on stage. Youre not a book writer (or poetry writer; same criteria as above, or article writer, etc) until youve actually written the book.
Im not criticizing your analogy, Im just showing you how it doesnt apply. I cant think of one analogy that works. If you can, go for it. Im interested. Maybe it’ll change my mind about the definition of a bodybuilder. [/quote]
What about bloggers? Most aren’t published authors in any sense, but they write on an “amateur” (according to more established people in the craft) level.[/quote]
I said publishing is NOT necessary.
You and roybot seemed to have misread
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Have a valid fucking argument before you step to me again.
[/quote]
Looks like someone wants a dance off!![/quote]
[/quote]
Pffft.
That ain’t real dancing.
THIS:
is real dancing.
[/quote]
Please tell me you had a kid and play haircut 20 years ago. Please.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Moving on…has anyone found out how many times you have to say “strawman” to summon the demon Cthulu?
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Haha. Nice reference.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Have a valid fucking argument before you step to me again.
[/quote]
Looks like someone wants a dance off!![/quote]
[/quote]
Pffft.
That ain’t real dancing.
THIS:
is real dancing.
[/quote]
I quite enjoyed that actually 
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
What about bloggers? Most aren’t published authors in any sense, but they write on an “amateur” (according to more established people in the craft) level.[/quote]
I said publishing is NOT necessary.
You and roybot seemed to have misread
[/quote]
I don’t care to argue with you and I wasn’t disagreeing, just adding to the analogy.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Oxford English Dictionary:
Bodybuilder
Noun
Thats great. Let me go scrape up a few thousand bucks and publish my own dictionary. By that definitipn football players powerlifters strongmen are all bodybuilders.
Useless post is useless[/quote]
Yes Bonez on its own that post maybe wasn’t much help but explains the publics misinterpretation of bodybuilding.
This definition is responsible for the general publics misconception of bodybuilding. If Joe average sees a jacked up guy swaggering down the street in a tight t-shirt they will likely assume he is a bodybuilder because it is apparent he does weights. An easy mistake for the uninitiated to make IMO. People in ‘the know’ obviously have a much more sophisticated understanding of weight lifting related endeavors, although a bulked up ‘off season’ bodybuilder may well look like, and be reasonably mistaken for a powerlifter.
If a writer writes for ten years before he becomes published does he only become a writer the day he gets his book published and starts earning royalties? I would say he becomes a ‘professional’ writer that day, if he only had articles published then maybe he becomes an ‘accomplished’ writer that day.
When a guy enters his first bodybuilding competition does he only become a bodybuilder that day? No, he becomes a competitive bodybuilder that day, if he places or wins something then he is certainly accomplished to a degree at least (anyone who steps on stage or into a ring or pursues their endeavors with a passion wins my respect) and when/if he starts making his living out of it he then becomes a professional bodybuilder.
So yes, I think you can be a bodybuilder without competing.
[/quote]
Youre equating writing professionally with professional bodybuilding. The caveat is that amateur bodybuilding exists. NPC. THose guys dont make money like the published writer does.
Ive said it once before. Analogies arent going to work here. Bodybuilding is a unique endeavor.
Your analogy would work if you compared the guy who has notes written down of all these ideas about character development, plot lines, chrolongy of events to the guy who actually takes those notes and puts it all together into a book (physical version or on a computer). Getting published equates with turning pro, not with stepping on stage. Youre not a book writer (or poetry writer; same criteria as above, or article writer, etc) until youve actually written the book.
Im not criticizing your analogy, Im just showing you how it doesnt apply. I cant think of one analogy that works. If you can, go for it. Im interested. Maybe it’ll change my mind about the definition of a bodybuilder. [/quote]
What about bloggers? Most aren’t published authors in any sense, but they write on an “amateur” (according to more established people in the craft) level.[/quote]
I said publishing is NOT necessary.
You and roybot seemed to have misread
[/quote]
No, I didn’t misread. I mentioned Kindle as a specific example of how people who’ve been turned down by legit publishing houses have been able to publish those “rejected” works themselves.
I believe what buddaboy was getting at with the writing analogy was that the likes of CT and Kroc were no less ‘bodybuilders’ a month before they stepped on stage to compete in their first show than a month after. Point is, the lines are increasingly blurred.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Oxford English Dictionary:
Bodybuilder
Noun
Thats great. Let me go scrape up a few thousand bucks and publish my own dictionary. By that definitipn football players powerlifters strongmen are all bodybuilders.
Useless post is useless[/quote]
Yes Bonez on its own that post maybe wasn’t much help but explains the publics misinterpretation of bodybuilding.
This definition is responsible for the general publics misconception of bodybuilding. If Joe average sees a jacked up guy swaggering down the street in a tight t-shirt they will likely assume he is a bodybuilder because it is apparent he does weights. An easy mistake for the uninitiated to make IMO. People in ‘the know’ obviously have a much more sophisticated understanding of weight lifting related endeavors, although a bulked up ‘off season’ bodybuilder may well look like, and be reasonably mistaken for a powerlifter.
If a writer writes for ten years before he becomes published does he only become a writer the day he gets his book published and starts earning royalties? I would say he becomes a ‘professional’ writer that day, if he only had articles published then maybe he becomes an ‘accomplished’ writer that day.
When a guy enters his first bodybuilding competition does he only become a bodybuilder that day? No, he becomes a competitive bodybuilder that day, if he places or wins something then he is certainly accomplished to a degree at least (anyone who steps on stage or into a ring or pursues their endeavors with a passion wins my respect) and when/if he starts making his living out of it he then becomes a professional bodybuilder.
So yes, I think you can be a bodybuilder without competing.
[/quote]
Youre equating writing professionally with professional bodybuilding. The caveat is that amateur bodybuilding exists. NPC. THose guys dont make money like the published writer does.
Ive said it once before. Analogies arent going to work here. Bodybuilding is a unique endeavor.
Your analogy would work if you compared the guy who has notes written down of all these ideas about character development, plot lines, chrolongy of events to the guy who actually takes those notes and puts it all together into a book (physical version or on a computer). Getting published equates with turning pro, not with stepping on stage. Youre not a book writer (or poetry writer; same criteria as above, or article writer, etc) until youve actually written the book.
Im not criticizing your analogy, Im just showing you how it doesnt apply. I cant think of one analogy that works. If you can, go for it. Im interested. Maybe it’ll change my mind about the definition of a bodybuilder. [/quote]
What about bloggers? Most aren’t published authors in any sense, but they write on an “amateur” (according to more established people in the craft) level.[/quote]
I said publishing is NOT necessary.
You and roybot seemed to have misread
[/quote]
No, I didn’t misread. I mentioned Kindle as a specific example of how people who’ve been turned down by legit publishing houses have been able to publish those “rejected” works themselves.
I believe what buddaboy was getting at with the writing analogy was that the likes of CT and Kroc were no less ‘bodybuilders’ a month before they stepped on stage to compete in their first show than a month after. Point is, the lines are increasingly blurred.
[/quote]
I have already said that someone who is planning to do a show is a bodybuilder in my eyes.
Please read my posts thoroughly. This is annoying.
I have no idea where youre going with rejected publishing. What is being rejected akin to in bodybuilding terms? I specifically said that the guy who write his book, has it on his computer fully edited and whateer, is a writer. The difference between that and bodybuilding is that you need to diet for 12 weeks JUST TO BE ABLE TO step on stage. Hence my inclusion of “planning to do a show”. There is no prep time for writing a book, you just write it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I thought we were discussing strawmen?
Oh, and to anyone else…do NOT say that three times in the mirror.
Holy crap.[/quote]
Well if you’re not gonna tell my why, im gonna feel obligated to do it and find out for myself.
The “holy crap” just makes me more intrigued.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
for the record, and I will probably piss a lot of other nurses by saying this…I dont consider myself a medical professional.
doctors are medical professionals, I believe that nurses are highly skilled tradesmen/women.
in my field, I consider myself a VERY highly skilled tradesman.
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A nurse would probably be classified as an Allied Health Specialist… [/quote]
k. i can live with that. I am not ashamed, but proud to be the blue collar wing of this health care system.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Oxford English Dictionary:
Bodybuilder
Noun
Thats great. Let me go scrape up a few thousand bucks and publish my own dictionary. By that definitipn football players powerlifters strongmen are all bodybuilders.
Useless post is useless[/quote]
Yes Bonez on its own that post maybe wasn’t much help but explains the publics misinterpretation of bodybuilding.
This definition is responsible for the general publics misconception of bodybuilding. If Joe average sees a jacked up guy swaggering down the street in a tight t-shirt they will likely assume he is a bodybuilder because it is apparent he does weights. An easy mistake for the uninitiated to make IMO. People in ‘the know’ obviously have a much more sophisticated understanding of weight lifting related endeavors, although a bulked up ‘off season’ bodybuilder may well look like, and be reasonably mistaken for a powerlifter.
If a writer writes for ten years before he becomes published does he only become a writer the day he gets his book published and starts earning royalties? I would say he becomes a ‘professional’ writer that day, if he only had articles published then maybe he becomes an ‘accomplished’ writer that day.
When a guy enters his first bodybuilding competition does he only become a bodybuilder that day? No, he becomes a competitive bodybuilder that day, if he places or wins something then he is certainly accomplished to a degree at least (anyone who steps on stage or into a ring or pursues their endeavors with a passion wins my respect) and when/if he starts making his living out of it he then becomes a professional bodybuilder.
So yes, I think you can be a bodybuilder without competing.
[/quote]
Youre equating writing professionally with professional bodybuilding. The caveat is that amateur bodybuilding exists. NPC. THose guys dont make money like the published writer does.
Ive said it once before. Analogies arent going to work here. Bodybuilding is a unique endeavor.
Your analogy would work if you compared the guy who has notes written down of all these ideas about character development, plot lines, chrolongy of events to the guy who actually takes those notes and puts it all together into a book (physical version or on a computer). Getting published equates with turning pro, not with stepping on stage. Youre not a book writer (or poetry writer; same criteria as above, or article writer, etc) until youve actually written the book.
Im not criticizing your analogy, Im just showing you how it doesnt apply. I cant think of one analogy that works. If you can, go for it. Im interested. Maybe it’ll change my mind about the definition of a bodybuilder. [/quote]
What about bloggers? Most aren’t published authors in any sense, but they write on an “amateur” (according to more established people in the craft) level.[/quote]
I said publishing is NOT necessary.
You and roybot seemed to have misread
[/quote]
No, I didn’t misread. I mentioned Kindle as a specific example of how people who’ve been turned down by legit publishing houses have been able to publish those “rejected” works themselves.
I believe what buddaboy was getting at with the writing analogy was that the likes of CT and Kroc were no less ‘bodybuilders’ a month before they stepped on stage to compete in their first show than a month after. Point is, the lines are increasingly blurred.
[/quote]
I have already said that someone who is planning to do a show is a bodybuilder in my eyes.
Please read my posts thoroughly. This is annoying.
I have no idea where youre going with rejected publishing. What is being rejected akin to in bodybuilding terms? I specifically said that the guy who write his book, has it on his computer fully edited and whateer, is a writer. The difference between that and bodybuilding is that you need to diet for 12 weeks JUST TO BE ABLE TO step on stage. Hence my inclusion of “planning to do a show”. There is no prep time for writing a book, you just write it. [/quote]
I would say that anyone who looks like you, or X, or Alpha, or Wanderlex, beast, lewwhiteherst, ect. bb is an objective “sport” does notmatter what you can “do”, just what you can see. proof is in the pudding…
like art, not sure if I know enough to be an art critic, but I know art when I see it.
does not matter what my lifts are or were, or how hard I bust my ass in the gym, if I were to go around calling myself a bodybuilder I would and rightfully should be laughed at.
Made it to page 20, then I had to tap out. If you are reading this, you are a stronger man than I.
[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
neelydan scores major points for using both xenophobe and troglodyte in one sentence
[/quote]
You’d also win Scrabble. But that’s besides the point.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I’m gonna say this and leave it at that…some of the posters here have been successful at turning this forum into nothing but a bunch of whining kids who seem jealous and upset by anyone who stands out and disagrees with them.
I mean, I can understand being challenged, but this bullshit where I get called out for pages has gotten really fucking old…not only that, most of you are just flat out wrong and lying your asses off now.
LOL at dental schools that are only 2-3 years long. I know what it took to get through school and it was just as tough as what the med students were going through on differently focused material. There isn’t one in the country less than 4 years…but clearly people with no medical backfgrounds at all know more than me about my own profession.
Have a valid fucking argument before you step to me again.
You make yourselves look like idiots if you don’t.
[/quote]
You know X, normally I stay out of these sort of deadend discussions because I simply don’t care. But I gotta say, for someone who thinks those who “step to” you without valid arguments are idiots, you sure spend a lot of time arguing with them. If you know what it took to get through dental school, why do you validate the idiots on here who don’t and are apparently completely off-base with their arguments? Who’s the bigger dumbfuck? The ignorant motherfuckers who come on here with invalid arguments, or the ignorant motherfucker who argues with them…for 24 PAGES???
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
if you go to school and earn your MD or a PHD then you are a doctor.
Look at Indiana Jones. He wasnt out there doing open heart surgeries but he was still Doctor Jones.
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My pop was a sociology professor, and signed things AS “Dr.” If asked, he would clarify that he had an educational doctorate, not medical. [/quote]
Ditto, except for my Dad his field was Metallurgy.
bump
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
bump[/quote]
Quit using strawmen.