[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
No one said competing alone makes someone a bodybuilder. Youre just goig to get people jumping on ypur ass again if u start making things up again.
Competing is simply another one of the elements that goes into it along with diet and training and the other handfull of things i mentioned earlier.
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? Isn’t that the point that BG is making, that I can’t call myself a bodbuilder because I haven’t competed?
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Im just saying that u can stretch thia any way u want to justify your opinion. Analogies are useless here. I just think bodybuilding is better off if the crteria for te label is as strict as possible. [/quote]
Yeah, and the holes in that include people who do compete before they ever build any size at all yet calling themselves “bodybuilders” JUST because they competed first.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Im just saying that u can stretch thia any way u want to justify your opinion. Analogies are useless here. I just think bodybuilding is better off if the crteria for te label is as strict as possible. [/quote]
Yeah, and the holes in that include people who do compete before they ever build any size at all yet calling themselves “bodybuilders” JUST because they competed first.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Im just saying that u can stretch thia any way u want to justify your opinion. Analogies are useless here. I just think bodybuilding is better off if the crteria for te label is as strict as possible. [/quote]
Yeah, and the holes in that include people who do compete before they ever build any size at all yet calling themselves “bodybuilders” JUST because they competed first.
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Theres no hole in that. Clearly that guy doesnt live and breathe training. I already said in a previous post that bodybuolders take lifting as serious as any other aspect of their lives.
But then again maybe that guy does and has the absolute worst genetics Of all time. In which case if he is busting his ass in all facets. Then yea he is a bodybuilder. Im sure the best guys there would give him a pat on the back if they knew he was truly working as hard as possible.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Im just saying that u can stretch thia any way u want to justify your opinion. Analogies are useless here. I just think bodybuilding is better off if the crteria for te label is as strict as possible. [/quote]
Yeah, and the holes in that include people who do compete before they ever build any size at all yet calling themselves “bodybuilders” JUST because they competed first.
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Theres no hole in that. Clearly that guy doesnt live and breathe training. I already said in a previous post that bodybuolders take lifting as serious as any other aspect of their lives.
But then again maybe that guy does and has the absolute worst genetics [/quote]
That’s the point…you can’t know that…but what you can see with your won eyes is that he damn sure doesn’t look like one…so you immediately thought he wasn’t.
That is all I was saying.
How you look is what makes that determination…not jumping on stage and not even how long you have been training.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
No one said competing alone makes someone a bodybuilder. Youre just goig to get people jumping on ypur ass again if u start making things up again.
Competing is simply another one of the elements that goes into it along with diet and training and the other handfull of things i mentioned earlier.
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? Isn’t that the point that BG is making, that I can’t call myself a bodbuilder because I haven’t competed?
How is that making stuff up?
What are you talking about?
Is anyone else noticing the “crazy” in here?[/quote]
Yes clearly. Imo if u satisfy 75% of the criteria you arent there yet. So for YOU all u have left is to cobquer te stage. For others theyre much further away from 75% or whatever number complete. Its a given that you work your ass off. But dont get an A for effort in my eyes.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
No one said competing alone makes someone a bodybuilder. Youre just goig to get people jumping on ypur ass again if u start making things up again.
Competing is simply another one of the elements that goes into it along with diet and training and the other handfull of things i mentioned earlier.
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? Isn’t that the point that BG is making, that I can’t call myself a bodbuilder because I haven’t competed?
How is that making stuff up?
What are you talking about?
Is anyone else noticing the “crazy” in here?[/quote]
Yes clearly. Imo if u satisfy 75% of the criteria you arent there yet. So for YOU all u have left is to cobquer te stage. For others theyre much further away from 75% or whatever number complete. Its a given that you work your ass off. But dont get an A for effort in my eyes.
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LOL…good thing I’m not looking for one.
As far as I am concerned, I have people I do go to for honest opinion of how I look and how I am progressing. I don’t think it matters at all that people who aren’t even really into bodybuilding (Because BG isn’t along with many others in this thread strangely) choose to not call me one.
I just dont see why the title of bodybuilder is so necessary. It has no effect on you or what u do. Do you call yourself a race car driver ecause you cruise above the speed limit every now and then in your new stang? Its not the absence of the label automatixally means you suck. It just means you dont compete
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
I just dont see why the title of bodybuilder is so necessary. It has no effect on you or what u do. Do you call yourself a race car driver ecause you cruise above the speed limit every now and then in your new stang? Its not that the absence of the label automatixally means you suck. It just means you dont compete
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Let me put it this way. Say u have a newb who wants to know everything about being a bodybuilder. Everything. All the hard work. The commitment and sacrifice all of it. Ibcluding all of the competitive aspects. He wants to hear it from a bodybuilder. Someone who has through it. You (X) can only provide so much info because you dont know about everything that goes into getting ready to step on stage. Competing is a huge part of being a bodybuilder. Obviously u see different but that newb who wants to know what goes intp it is going to lOok at you funny if u say “well dont worry about conpeting, its just the lifestyle”[/quote]
I like your logical-ness.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
I just dont see why the title of bodybuilder is so necessary. It has no effect on you or what u do. Do you call yourself a race car driver ecause you cruise above the speed limit every now and then in your new stang? Its not that the absence of the label automatixally means you suck. It just means you dont compete
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Let me put it this way. Say u have a newb who wants to know everything about being a bodybuilder. Everything. All the hard work. The commitment and sacrifice all of it. Ibcluding all of the competitive aspects. He wants to hear it from a bodybuilder. Someone who has through it. You (X) can only provide so much info because you dont know about everything that goes into getting ready to step on stage. Competing is a huge part of being a bodybuilder. Obviously u see different but that newb who wants to know what goes intp it is going to lOok at you funny if u say “well dont worry about conpeting, its just the lifestyle”[/quote]
Hmm, I am pretty sure I wrote that I don’t care what someone calls me. It just so happens that most people who see me in the gym who speak to me seem to assume I already have competed or else I wouldn’t be this size.
I think this site alone is the ONLY place where this is even an issue…to anyone.
Most people are smart enough to call it like they see it whether they see a trophy or not.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
I just dont see why the title of bodybuilder is so necessary. It has no effect on you or what u do. Do you call yourself a race car driver ecause you cruise above the speed limit every now and then in your new stang? Its not that the absence of the label automatixally means you suck. It just means you dont compete
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Let me put it this way. Say u have a newb who wants to know everything about being a bodybuilder. Everything. All the hard work. The commitment and sacrifice all of it. Ibcluding all of the competitive aspects. He wants to hear it from a bodybuilder. Someone who has through it. You (X) can only provide so much info because you dont know about everything that goes into getting ready to step on stage. Competing is a huge part of being a bodybuilder. Obviously u see different but that newb who wants to know what goes intp it is going to lOok at you funny if u say “well dont worry about conpeting, its just the lifestyle”[/quote]
Hmm, I am pretty sure I wrote that I don’t care what someone calls me. It just so happens that most people who see me in the gym who speak to me seem to assume I already have competed or else I wouldn’t be this size.
I think this site alone is the ONLY place where this is even an issue…to anyone.
Most people are smart enough to call it like they see it whether they see a trophy or not.[/quote]
If u didnt care about the label theres no chance youd make a half dozeb posts about it.
People assume youre a bodybuolder. Thats great. Youre doing it right. But when they ask about dropping water or what to do if they start to flatten out after mandatories you either have to say something you read somewhere or tell then that u have no idea because youve only conpleted 85% of bodybuilding. And we know your stance of giving second and third hand info…
Its an issue on this site because on real bodybuilding sites like IM where conpetitora post youd be laughed off the forum for stuff like this. There would be one reply “what did u place, pics from show?”. Then the thread would be over.
A person who strengthens and enlarges the muscles of their body though strenuous exercise.
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Thats great. Let me go scrape up a few thousand bucks and publish my own dictionary. By that definitipn football players powerlifters strongmen are all bodybuilders.
If u didnt care about the label theres no chance youd make a half dozeb posts about it. [/quote]
? I made posts because I care about the topic that started this thread. Why? Because I am passionate about what I do in the gym. Any more random judgments you care to make?
? First, I have dieted many times even if I have never jumped on stage…and most of the discussion on this forum IS NOT about the final few days of competition prep which would be the only difference in the info given. I don’t even discuss the laft few days of compeition prep as there is no talk here about it…so what are you even going on about?
? I’ve posted on Professional Muscle for several years and no one is laughing me off the forums…and they have guys way more advanced.
[quote]lemonman456 wrote:
My mom was just watching “The Real Housewives of New York” and I was just dumbfounded at how stupid and whiny people could be even though they were successful and at around 40 years of age. Sometimes this site reminds me a lot of that show.[/quote]
You ever watch the show the Jersey Shore about young dumbass kids who drink all the time, fuck everything that moves, take any type of med to get them “Jacked”? Well these kind of comments remind me of that show. [/quote]
hrmm, that’s not what I was trying to say at all
If u didnt care about the label theres no chance youd make a half dozeb posts about it. [/quote]
? I made posts because I care about the topic that started this thread. Why? Because I am passionate about what I do in the gym. Any more random judgments you care to make?
? First, I have dieted many times even if I have never jumped on stage…and most of the discussion on this forum IS NOT about the final few days of competition prep which would be the only difference in the info given. I don’t even discuss the laft few days of compeition prep as there is no talk here about it…so what are you even going on about?
? I’ve posted on Professional Muscle for several years and no one is laughing me off the forums…and they have guys way more advanced.
Get over yourself.[/quote]
Lol. So u do care about the label. Because youre passionate about what u do in the gym. And you want it to be called bodybuolding for whatever reason. We all can put 2 and 2 together.
You dont talk about contest prep BECAUSE YOU CANT. THATS MY POINT. you literally have nothing to say about it. There are people who compete here. And its a hard fact that if they have a question about contest prep they are PMing Stu and not you.
IM = intense muscle but ok thats fine. How many guys are asking you about contest prep there? Im sure a lot ask u about getting big. Any smart giy would. But thats all you have to offer at this point.
And dont bullshit us with “ive dieted before”. You havent seen your abs in ten years. If you want to call that a diet then you may as well admit that you have no clue what it takes to be a bodybuilder.
50 years old at 6’4", 250, and sub 10%. Never been stronger and never been leaner, even when i was 220. I’m all about progress as long as possible. Tell me this isn’t healthy when most of my peers are sub 180, soft, and sit on their ass all day.
