Can’t tell, go for it! If you’ve known her that long, then you know everything about her. If you want a relationship or something long term, I’d definitely go for it. It sounds like she would be a keeper. Don’t be scared. Let the feelings come out. The best relationships are always the ones where you’ve been friends and known each other for a while.
Yo Nate Dawgy Dogg - we get on great, but the thing is I ‘don’t’ want a relationship with her. We have lots of things in common but not enough for me to be happy long term. All I really want is a quick piece of poonany! I’ll just have to test the waters, keep pressing little by little and hope she keeps quiet if I can pull it off. I can confirm yet again that I guy can’t be friends with a girl and not want to lay her.
In that case, see if she wants the same. Otherwise, don’t do it for just a piece of ass if she wants differently. Especially since she’s your best friend’s sister. That could cause problems. But hey, maybe she just wants to hook up too.
yo goldberg,i had the exact same problem but this girl had a boyfriend ,but hung around me every possible chance she got.i never told her how i felt until one night i drug her out of her house on a sunday nightat 1200.it didn’t go my way so i decided to stop talking to her,2 days later i get a upset phone call from saying she depressed and misses me,even her mom told her to drop her man and get with me.i tld her i couldn’t be "friends"with her anymore she said she understood.i sit here 6 months later still dodging her phone calls’she called today i even changed my number and she still got it.take it from me , walk away,girls like that are frikkin crazy.they realize later what they missed out on and regret it.
This has basically been said a few times already but I’ll just enforce it a bit more. Keep in mind that 99% of all chics are game-playing morons. In other words, every stupid chic in the world is obsessed (at least to some degree) with something that she can’t have. If she already knows how you feel about her and how easy she could have you, then there’s no game for her to play and she’s not interested. For whatever reason, chics always have to play their stupid little games. Like half of the other guys here said, there’s no need to be a dick, but do start blowing her off for awhile. At the very least, it’ll get her attention.
Go with the Whopper, Goldie! Youv’e talked the talk, time for some action, if it don’t happen, walk. Thats the only way you are gonna find out if there’s any ‘feelings’ hiding in there. Take note of Ironbabes advice too. If this chick thinks you are sexy why doesn’t she screw you? If shes waiting for the right time, then you make that time NOW! Let her find out just how damn sexy you are. Don’t let her call the shots. Make a move, and get it sorted out. Good luck, and you gotta let us know how it goes 
PS: I had this ‘I don’t have those feelings for you’ thing for a guy - i even dated him a few times to find out, but there was just no spark,we fought and didn’t speak to each other for a whole year - damn hard work to ignore someone for that long! He has been and returned from overseas, and now we live in separate cities, but now I’d go out with him in a minute if we were in the same city. Go figure!!! so all that ‘cool it off with her and then make a move’ stuff will probably be successful.
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Have any of you ever been shot down by a girl because they have a boyfriend and later find out their boyfriend lokks like a 2 day old turd in comparison to you…WHAT THE RAST??? I gues that’s the [price you pay for being a strange as myself,one love.
well let me say something here. I know all us Tmen can relate to everything talked about here. one thing i wanted to make clear is that its not that easy to blow a girl off. You say to stop calling her, dont pay attention, etc…You see what happens here is that if she is a desirable girl (whom she prob is), it is possible that MAYBE she will want u more OR very possible after having too much of your shit just move on. You have to remember, dont think your god here because she can easily go off and talk to another guy. Remeber these are females, and females get laid whever they want. I just wanted to say that. I would love to here any comments or ways to get around this. We are all here to help each other out.
Guys, I have a similar(well not really) situation with one of my sister’s best friends. I’ve known the girl for several years and I really like her and I THINK she likes me. I’m 2 years older than she is so that’s no problem but I just have the distinct feeling that my sister would lose her shit if I approached her friend. If that would happen then both of them would probably lose a best friend and I don’t want that shit on my head. If I knew for certain that the girl had a thing for me then I would try to approah her but I’m just not sure. So I guess what I’m asking of you guys is how would you go about this situation? How would you guys go about finding out if the girl was into you(again this could be a delicate situation)? And has anyone else gone through something similar? Thanks guys.
Get the all clear with your sister first bud. If it’s a no go from her then there’s no point pursuing it…
Will … your sister will likely know if her friend is into you… let sis know you really like her friend.
Goldberg - Like a lot of these people, I’ve been in this situation before. The general consensus on this thread is correct: drop her. This situation never turns out well. No matter what you do you’re still going to have those feelings for her. It’s best to get away from her right now. Not to mention she’s being a game-playing fool. She likes the idea of you falling all over her, but she’ll never go out with you. Drop her. That way you get the best of both worlds: 1. no more mental strife over liking this girl 2. she’ll get just what she deserves as she’ll be devastated at the loss of you as a friend.
Will - there's no good way to find out. The only reliable way to know is if you ask her, but (as you know) if she doesn't like you back then the situation is pretty screwed. My advise, if you're feeling risky then you have to ask. If you don't want to ask then you have got to get over her. Very simple. Any other actions will lead to a perpetuation of the situation as it now stands and I know you don't want that. I don't think I'd ask you sister because the two of them would probably find out what you liked the other girl pretty soon.
Thanks for all the advice. I was at a softball tourney this weekend so i just now read all the suggestions. Whats fucked up is i knew all this stuff without asking. Just kinda needed to hear it from someone else. thanks dogs.
If you come back for another view on this topic after more confusion (and I wager you will) here is my first foray into dating topics in this forum that I hope will help. Last year I met up with my all time 10 year No 1 wacking fantasy from school -5’8, size 10 and a solid 8/10. It went just as you said - lots of calls, at my house plenty, didnt like me that way but considered me her best friend. No word of a lie Tman but then again I think Ive seen them all. What did I do - ONE I kept seeing other girls and even had the pleasure of watching her play the friend role one day when another girl had stayed over. Letting her see this is not recommended but hey, you guys are just friends and in my case it was fun because this girl liked me (just as yours likes you) but worked around it because she has some silly ideal of her next boyfriend as looking like Brad Pitt and being as rich as, and exciting as, some TV superdude. TWO one night at a club after a few drinks I decided to apply romantic pressure because I knew this girl wanted me. I bought a rose ! , pulled it out on her, and said “are you going to take it” and when she took it I said “are you going to kiss me”. OK I was very drunk but it worked which was gratifying in some ways. Im sure it will work for you if you wanted but take heed - the silly ideals that are getting in the way will remain and make it sort of pointless - I moved on after a week with this girl and dont talk to her anymore because I can admit that its not fair to me (which sucks a bit cause she was a 26yo cameron diaz look alike that started lifting weights with me). I aint there for some superficial girl to accesorize with. A final caveat, I could be wrong about there being no future for you two, but I am right that she likes you and that you could get her in the right circumstances (ie exciting party/club/social things). The choice is yours t dawg.
Just read whopper’s post again - his beer technique is maybe more devious than my “get drunk and apply the gentle pressure” but I must concur. Whopper, you are indeed deep on dating topics and have profound skills. Goldberg, there is the possibility of personal satisfaction in proving to yourself what whopper and I know to be a fact - ie this girl is keen. Let us know if you have any success with a direct approach.
Tease her back. Jesus you guys develop all these intricate plans of seduction just tease her back. You say she knows you like her. Play the friend card. Shit get her to hook you up with her friends. hee hee. This is funny as hell. Tell her that you need a females opinion on something explain the situation you are in with her. Ask her what she would do in that given situation. To be a player you got to know how to play. It sounds to me like you are done with this chick. So hell if you wanna hit it make your move if she pulls a bullfighter and dodges then walk away and stay away. She has no real interest. It is most likely a physical thing with her she has wanted you in that way the whole time she is seeing if you will draw the line. So do it draw the line in the sand and see if she crosses it. If you do not mind being the bad guy play the close friend card. Say something like you have heard before “I have to many feelings for you and it tears me up to be around you. I really like you as a friend but I want more than you can give. When you are ready to see me as I see you call me until then get out of my life.” If she was interested she will call within a week if not find another piece of tail. Damn when will us guys learn the best way to play a woman is how they play us. The trick is you have to truly not care. That is easy to do just think of how much she is a dick tease and that should give you grounds enough. Enough of my rant. Seriously, though just have fun. If it is not fun then find one that is but life is to short to stress over some choir girl priss.
Dre…I sincerely appreciate the kind words. I don’t consider myself a guru…I have just always loved and adored women…especially undressed!! So I have tried all sorts of things to meet as many as possible…some worked, some didn’t and some just blew up in my face. I just pass on to my fellow T-dudes the ones that always worked for me very well. Also understand that before I changed my ways…this T-dude was actually a sad case that when I was 19 actually had a total hottie that used to come and sleep with me every friday after we had been partying because I was a “good friend and good snuggler” I actually put up with this for 8 months (I was dating other people…but having a total hottie coming over to sleep with you and doing just that…sleeping…is SAD!) The caveman routine came when she came over one night…and I WAS pretty buzzed and had just watched some movie where the guy actually did the whole routine I described. Well…I was wired and fired…and just didn’t care…so as soon as she hit the door…I did the caveman routine for the first time…and she actually attacked me for the rest of the night! We did date after that for about 6 months…so it worked out pretty well. Since then I have used it probably 15 to 20 times…with a decent success ratio…about 80% and as I said…to the rest…I just blame it on the booze…and apologize!!
She sounds like most women that “don’t have those feelings for you”: she needs a challenge. You may be making yourself too available to her. Think about it: if she really didn’t have interest in you she would just let you go after what you want and stay out of the way. Because she isn’t staying out of the way, that leads me to think she has some interest in you, fello T-Man. Here’s a cardinal rule that ALL of us should abide by: PAY MORE ATTENTION TO WHAT A WOMAN DOES (HER ACTIONS) THAN THE WORDS THAT COME OUT HER MOUTH. Hope this helps
Do what I do, it may work, it may not. The instant she bags on a girl that you are making progress with, steer the conversation toward something like"…you know you and I have different tastes, there is just something about her…" try to find a way to pay the princess a compliment, but hint that you aren’t attracted to her like you are to (whatever her name is)
If she says your sexy, return the compliment, but undersell the spit out of it, “you aint TOO bad yourself”. chum it up with her, but if you start to talk about that other girl, drift away like you daydreaming.
challange her ego, hell she is challanging yours. I say don’t even hint or come close to making a move on her. she’ll jump. if she doesn’t, what have you lost?